[HN Gopher] Zotero- Free, easy-to-use tool to collect, organize,...
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       Zotero- Free, easy-to-use tool to collect, organize, cite, and
       share research
        
       Author : rammy1234
       Score  : 96 points
       Date   : 2022-01-02 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.zotero.org)
        
       | chana_masala wrote:
       | I found Zotero very confusing to use. But maybe I am not the
       | target demographic. I have always just used vim txt files for
       | notes, using cli tools like grep to find what I need.
        
         | mbreese wrote:
         | It is very good for also downloading and keeping track of PDFs.
         | It is primarily targeted at academics. And for many of us, it's
         | a great tool for keeping track of what papers we are currently
         | reading, or want to keep for later. It can be hard to manage
         | citations, PDFs, etc... in a text document. I know some people
         | do, but I like being able to use a bookmarklet/extension to add
         | a new paper to my lists.
        
         | nvrspyx wrote:
         | To add to the other comment, Zotero can also download the PDF
         | for you if you just have a citation (if it can find it) and it
         | also integrates into Word, Google Docs, etc. for citations when
         | writing research papers.
         | 
         | It's especially useful for multiple people writing the same
         | research paper as the library can be shared.
        
         | prepend wrote:
         | Generating the citation text in whatever format people like is
         | a time saver.
        
       | jabl wrote:
       | I used to use Mendeley, but after the evil empire bought them out
       | and added anti-features like preventing export of the DB (or
       | something like that, I don't remember exactly what it was
       | anymore), I switched to Zotero. I was on the verge of exiting
       | academic research at the time, so I don't have as much experience
       | of Zotero, but it seems very solid. Strongly recommended!
       | 
       | (Occasionally I wonder about how Zotero development is going.
       | IIRC they were planning to switch from XUL to Electron many years
       | ago, maybe that plan got shelved or they just don't have the
       | manpower to do it..)
        
       | simlevesque wrote:
       | I learned it in college and a month ago I was googling to
       | remember this software and I found nothing. So thank you for
       | posting this !!
        
       | brainlessdev wrote:
       | Zotero works with LibreOffice as well. It helped me tons while
       | writing my thesis!
        
       | temp8964 wrote:
       | What I (and believe many others) really want is a self-hosted
       | Zotero server. See question has been asked:
       | 
       | https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/73721/zotero-self-hoste...
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       | https://www.reddit.com/r/zotero/comments/d270kv/zotero_datas...
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       | https://github.com/zotero/dataserver/issues/105
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       | https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/48335/foss-...
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       | https://groups.google.com/g/zotero-dev/c/9FdSz0kIG_4?pli=1
       | 
       | Unfortunately, there is no officially supported way to do this.
       | The official dataserver package does not have an instruction:
       | https://github.com/zotero/dataserver
       | 
       | There is an unofficial package from 5 years ago
       | https://hub.docker.com/r/facciolo/zotero_dataserver-docker
        
       | benjamir wrote:
       | We tried to migrate a reference library with more than 17k
       | entries, but it never worked out beyond 2k.
       | 
       | Sorry to say: might be fine for small personal projects, for
       | anything serious I don't see how.
        
         | dstillman wrote:
         | Something's not right there. People use Zotero with libraries
         | with tens of thousands of items all the time. (Some people have
         | hundreds of thousands of items, though that gets dicier.) Not
         | sure exactly what you were seeing, but we'd be happy to debug
         | in the Zotero Forums if you wanted to try again. It's possible
         | to configure a third-party plugin such that it affects
         | performance, for example.
         | 
         | (Disclosure: Zotero dev)
        
         | zoomablemind wrote:
         | Isn't zotero backed by sqlite db? So these row counts are
         | nothing much to cope with, sqlite would do just fine.
         | 
         | Do you mean it did not work out for you performance-wise or the
         | export process failed?
        
         | wcerfgba wrote:
         | What problems did you encounter with this large library?
        
           | benjamir wrote:
           | The import via API failed too often.
        
         | chana_masala wrote:
         | What were you trying to migrate from? And what do you use now?
        
         | urschrei wrote:
         | I've been using Zotero since it was in beta in 2007, and have a
         | library with tens of thousands of items. As dstillman says
         | that's hardly unusual. It works perfectly (it's just a SQLite
         | db with a mature, well-designed schema after all), and syncs
         | perfectly across five devices.
        
           | benjamir wrote:
           | Funny, we tried probably your solution for imports?
           | urschrei/pyzotero is yours? Failed all the time. To be fair
           | we got a lot of 5xx, so maybe we were just out of luck.
           | Anyway time ran out with that project.
        
       | designium wrote:
       | I use Zotero as a bookmarking too. It saves the files and
       | articles offline.
        
         | wcerfgba wrote:
         | Same!
        
       | sergiomattei wrote:
       | Is anyone using Zotero as a bookmark manager for articles to read
       | later?
       | 
       | I'd love to try it for this purpose!
        
         | SkyMarshal wrote:
         | Yup, just install the browser addon and it works for this too.
        
       | wosk wrote:
       | I highly recommend going for the beta version which features a
       | (game-changing) built-in pdf reader[1], with annotations
       | (searchable and synced with the beta iPad app) and many more
       | improvements.
       | 
       | Zotero is an amazing tool and I could not imagine writing papers
       | without it. For collaborative writing, it syncs the bibliography
       | with overleaf[2] and google docs. The browser add-on allows to
       | build your library with one click while browsing, and it parses
       | wonderfully meta-data from all (most) publishers and pre-print
       | servers.
       | 
       | But I use it even for non-publishing side of research: one can
       | save webpages (with snapshots) and write notes with formatting
       | around them. My personal research workflow involves note-taking
       | with the markdown app Zettlr[2], from which I can cite my Zotero
       | library using simply `@[Author:Title:Year]`. I can then build
       | notes from a twitter thread and stats.stackexchange.com answers,
       | then connect it with papers and blog posts that way, and a
       | specific chapter of a book with my annotation on the cloud. It
       | not always straightforward as a workflow but it works wonders.
       | 
       | And the team is very responsive on the forum and on twitter. If
       | one of the dev is ready this, thank you so much for making
       | researchers life way easier !
       | 
       | EDIT: I just realised I can share my libraries online. A bit
       | ashamed because it is very messy, but in case you are wondering
       | what a Zotero library looks like, here is the link to mine [4]
       | (without the notes and the embedded pdf and data files because I
       | cannot share all of them. Moreover, I don't use the folder
       | structure anymore so its very messy).
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       | [1] https://www.zotero.org/support/pdf_reader_preview
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       | [2] I recommend the BetterBibTex extension for anything related
       | to tex, it'll save you a lot of time
       | 
       | [3] https://zettlr.com, another great app.
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       | [4] https://www.zotero.org/wosk/library
        
       | smitty1e wrote:
       | I use Zotero to manage the research with:
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       | - the FireFox connector for ingest,
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       | - export to bibtex, and
       | 
       | - the "Zoo for Zotero" app from the Play Store to pull the
       | content down to a Samsung tablet for portable reading.
        
       | tehjoker wrote:
       | Zotero saved my life writing research papers. You can get all
       | kinds of plugins to Sublime or Google Docs for adding citations.
        
       | prepend wrote:
       | I use zotero for managing research and bibliographies. But it's
       | so weird that their web version (the only one I'll ever use)
       | doesn't make it easy to share bibliographies with other people.
       | 
       | It's such a weird feature that's missing and it really important
       | when collaborating on a paper.
       | 
       | It's free and better than the alternatives I've tried (endnote,
       | mendeley, Google docs)
        
         | wcerfgba wrote:
         | You can edit your settings to make your web library publicly
         | shareable :)
        
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