[HN Gopher] Gas Pump Golf
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Gas Pump Golf
Author : gaws
Score : 149 points
Date : 2022-01-07 16:28 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (gaspumpgolf.github.io)
(TXT) w3m dump (gaspumpgolf.github.io)
| [deleted]
| yupper32 wrote:
| This is why we can't have nice things.
|
| Are people really criticizing the realism of someone's hobby
| project game? Really, you want better documentation or it to work
| perfectly on mobile browsers? You immediately need to hack the
| API?
|
| It's a short little game. Enjoy it for what it is.
| mynameisvlad wrote:
| +1, honestly. Projects don't need to be revolutionary and
| ground-breaking.
|
| Especially when it's not your (general you, not you
| specifically) time or money on the line, who are you to
| criticize what someone spends their free time building?
| [deleted]
| larrybud wrote:
| Not allowed to play this as I live in NJ. :)
| mixologic wrote:
| Same. In OR.
| eatbitseveryday wrote:
| Not true if your vehicle uses diesel.
| mixologic wrote:
| I did used to have a diesel Winnebago, and did pump my own
| gas. It's the sort of loophole that causes the whole scheme
| to seem non-sensiscal.
| davidw wrote:
| If they got the dates just right, I think the legalized it
| for a little bit during the pandemic. Also, you can pump your
| own gas in certain rural areas now.
| seattle_spring wrote:
| I'll come play it for you, for $15 an hour.
| kingcharles wrote:
| Plus tips.
| seattle_spring wrote:
| You definitely aren't expected to tip pump employees in
| Oregon.
|
| ... but yeah, $15 plus tips for this game B)
| karaterobot wrote:
| Wait, really? I'm in WA, and I tip every time I go
| through there. I asked the first time whether it was
| appropriate to tip, and the guy was like "uhh, yeah!" so
| I've never asked again.
| gcheong wrote:
| I'm sure it was much appreciated but it's never expected.
| umvi wrote:
| I read the law, and... wow. Talk about nannying. The whole law
| basically amounts to "the government needs to impose more
| control and restrictions in order to keep citizens safe"
|
| > Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act
|
| > a. Because of the fire hazards directly associated with
| dispensing fuel, it is in the public interest that gasoline
| station operators have the control needed over that activity to
| ensure compliance with appropriate safety procedures, including
| turning off vehicle engines and refraining from smoking while
| fuel is dispensed.
|
| > b. At self-service gasoline stations in other states,
| cashiers are often unable to maintain a clear view of the
| activities of customers dispensing gasoline, or to give their
| undivided attention to observing customers; therefore, when
| customers, rather than attendants, are permitted to dispense
| fuel, it is far more difficult to enforce compliance with
| safety procedures
|
| > c. The State needs stronger measures to enforce both
| compliance by customers with the ban on self-service and
| compliance by attendants with safety procedures
|
| > e. Exposure to toxic gasoline fumes represents a health
| hazard when customers dispense their own gasoline, particularly
| in the case of pregnant women
|
| https://www.nj.gov/labor/safetyandhealth/resources-support/l...
| EvanKelly wrote:
| To be fair, there are many fewer deaths by wild dog/bear
| attack while pumping gas in NJ:
| https://www.cc.com/video/fz0xoa/the-daily-show-with-jon-
| stew...
| HeavenFox wrote:
| NJ resident.
|
| Being able to refuel your car without stepping outside is
| really nice, especially in winter. There has been attempts to
| repeal that law to no avail.
|
| The only drawback is if there aren't enough employees you may
| need to wait a while. This is especially annoying at Costco
| where there's always a line.
| mdavis6890 wrote:
| Yes, sure is nice to have the _option_ to offer or use
| full-service, isn 't it.
| [deleted]
| gattilorenz wrote:
| > Being able to refuel your car without stepping outside is
| really nice, especially in winter. There has been attempts
| to repeal that law to no avail.
|
| In most tank stations I've seen in Italy you have the
| served and self lines, the latter sparing you some
| cents/liter while in the former they will wash your
| windshield while the tank is getting filled up.
|
| Isn't there a serviced lane in other US states?
| cafard wrote:
| I think gas stations are required to pump gas for those
| physically unable to do so. In the Washington, DC, area
| most do not offer a served line. (I think--I don't drive
| a lot.) I can think of just one that would routinely pump
| the gas, and I haven't been there in years.
| lotsofpulp wrote:
| > Isn't there a serviced lane in other US states?
|
| No, because there is no demand for full service at the
| extra amount it would cost to hire someone. I actually
| would not pay any extra for someone else to fill it, as I
| would prefer to not have someone else touch my credit
| card and risk overfill my fuel tank.
| mikestew wrote:
| Not anymore. I'm actually old enough to have worked the
| "serviced lane", or "full service" as it was called in
| the U. S. If you are disabled, there is still the option
| to have an attendant come out an pump it for you (I have
| never even _seen_ this, let alone experienced it).
| Otherwise, I haven 't seen a full service lane in
| probably twenty years, save Oregon and New Jersey, where
| it self-service is illegal (unless you're on a
| motorcycle).
|
| As a side note, barely-above minimum wage though it was,
| I loved that job. Kinda sucked in the Indiana winters,
| but otherwise stand outside all day and talk to people.
|
| Side-side note: as a former "professional", I'll admit I
| got bored after 1976, so I have no score to post.
| mynameisvlad wrote:
| Self-serve is now available at some Oregon gas stations,
| on a per-county basis: https://geo.maps.arcgis.com/apps/V
| iew/index.html?appid=fe6b9...
| twobitshifter wrote:
| Very rarely in the northeast and only at Sunoco stations.
| astura wrote:
| Full service gas pumps are extremely rare in the US. I
| haven't seen one in nearly two decades and I regularly
| travel all around the northeast.
|
| Since it costs slightly more, there's basically not a
| market for it outside the places where it's required.
| HyperRational wrote:
| NikolaeVarius wrote:
| I highly doubt its actually about safety and more about just
| making jobs.
| awb wrote:
| Probably 95% jobs, 5% safety.
|
| https://jwkblog.com/wordpress/fire-at-gas-stations-some-
| fact...
|
| 5k fires/year, 61% involving vehicles so about 3k
| fires/year, presumably from pumping gas.
|
| But given how many billions (or maybe even trillions) of
| customer-pump interactions per year that's a really low
| incident rate.
|
| It would be interesting to see if NJ and OR with no self-
| serve have dramatically lower rates but I couldn't find
| that info.
| hammock wrote:
| 5k fires/year may not seem like much compared to the
| billions of non-incident pumps, but what about our
| limited municipal firefighting capacity? Wouldn't gas
| pump fires contribute to their being overloaded,
| unnecessarily, when all is required is a simple rule that
| hurts no one?
| dijonman2 wrote:
| Gas stations have built in fire suppression. It's a
| stretch to link this to firefighting capacity. Nanny
| states are annoying.
| awb wrote:
| From the article gas station fires cause $20B in damage
| annually. Not to mention toxic fumes.
|
| Even with suppression _someone_ has to intervene to
| reduce it from suppressed to extinguished, and that's
| usually the fire department.
|
| The numbers are very small, but it's not nothing.
|
| The key point though would be seeing if these risks are
| far lower in OR and NJ, or not.
| hammock wrote:
| In cases when a gas station's fire suppression is
| triggered, in how many cases does the fire department
| never come out? I would estimate that they come out every
| time anyway.
| TulliusCicero wrote:
| What limited municipal firefighting capacity?
| Firefighters hardly fight any (urban) fires these days,
| because of better building codes and fewer people
| smoking.
| jkepler wrote:
| I grew up there, and always heard that full-serve only was
| about jobs.
| astura wrote:
| Nowadays it's probably 44% jobs, 44% people simply like
| the service and 2% safety.
| hammock wrote:
| >The whole law basically amounts to "the government needs to
| impose more control and restrictions in order to keep
| citizens safe"
|
| Isn't that basically the argument behind everything covid?
| bananabreakfast wrote:
| If by covid you mean general national health concerns
| including polio, smallpox, measles, rubella, salmonella, E.
| coli, cholera and ebola, then yes.
|
| That's exactly the argument behind regulation to keep us
| from getting sick.
| dijonman2 wrote:
| brewdad wrote:
| If people are going to act like children, they should
| expect to be treated that way too.
| nradov wrote:
| Well I guess that's one way to encourage residents to buy
| electric cars?
| dunham wrote:
| I got to experience this while driving through Oregon. I ended
| up with a check engine light because the guy didn't screw the
| gas cap back on correctly.
| zikduruqe wrote:
| A relative moved away from NJ to where we live. They were in
| their late-20's. I had to teach them how to pump gas because
| they had never done it before.
| rockbruno wrote:
| Sorry, but I couldn't resist checking out the APIs and sending a
| fake score ("sorry"). Make sure to delete it!
| kingcharles wrote:
| This is why we can't have nice things! (CPUs without Microsoft
| on the die)
| jaywalk wrote:
| Gas Pump Golf 2.0 is going to come with an anti-cheat rootkit
| now. Thanks a lot.
| ksaua wrote:
| Thanks yourself. I laughed out loud reading your comment and
| must've used at least 10min trying to explain to my non
| techie wife why an anti-cheat rootkit was so funny.
|
| She did not see the humour.
| rockbruno wrote:
| None of this would have happened in web3! /s
| hadem wrote:
| Is this why I can't get last place? :-)
|
| I wanted to see how many "levels" there were so I started to
| click the button repeatedly just to end the game. Then I
| noticed the "you did better than X%" message. I can't get first
| but can I get last!?
|
| Even using keyboard events, it still says I'm better than 1%.
| Either someone is still...more wrong/faster...or 1% is the
| lowest it can go? Haha!
| ry4nolson wrote:
| maybe they're going over more than you're staying under.
| kwhitefoot wrote:
| Not very similar to the way people really fill a tank.
| jsight wrote:
| Not today, but in the past it was fairly common due to the use
| of cash. Of course, restarting to get that last cent was common
| too.
| brk wrote:
| How so? I often fill my tank much like this, making note of the
| current year and the precise amount of cash I have on hand. It
| might be a regional thing, but I felt it was very realistic.
| jstanley wrote:
| I was looking at how the high score submission works, and there
| is some quite interesting anti-cheat here. I haven't managed to
| defeat it, but this is what I know so far:
|
| A score submission looks like this, in a POST body to /new-score:
| {"score":58.92,"placeholder":"olivia","id":"64904","logs":[{"year
| ":1931,"price":0.17,"target":0.25,"sale":0,"id":"v5v8"},{"year":1
| 957,"price":0.31,"target":1,"sale":0,"id":"s8x3"},{"year":1976,"p
| rice":0.59,"target":4.23,"sale":0.01,"id":"d8v2"},{"year":1992,"p
| rice":1.13,"target":10.99,"sale":0.04,"id":"z2q0o9"},{"year":2005
| ,"price":2.3,"target":0.39,"sale":0.05,"id":"c1s2j1"},{"year":201
| 2,"price":3.64,"target":42.24,"sale":0.08,"id":"g1j2k5"}]}
|
| I tidied up the JavaScript that runs the site with
| jsbeautifier[0], but it's still pretty obfuscated and hard to
| read. So far I have worked out that the "id" field on each of the
| "logs" is just the number of milliseconds you held the button
| down, with random letters interspersed. So if you hold the button
| down for 125ms, then the id might get "a1b2c5".
|
| If you mess with the logs so that the "id" fields are incorrect,
| then the server responds with "invalid". If you leave the logs
| alone and only change the main "score" value then it still
| responds with "ok" or "top", but it doesn't appear to actually
| insert the score - I suspect this is supposed to frustrate
| efforts at cheating.
|
| I'm not sure whether using the word "placeholder" to refer to the
| player's name is an unintentional bug or not. I haven't played
| the game sufficiently well to see if a legitimate high-scoring
| submission to /new-score looks different. From what I can tell
| from the source, if you score well enough, it creates an input
| box and allows you to input your own name, and this input box has
| "placeholder" text set. If I just randomly change "olivia" to
| something else then my submission gets rejected with "invalid". I
| haven't yet worked out where the "olivia" string in "placeholder"
| comes from. It's a different name every time.
|
| I also haven't yet worked out where the main "id" number comes
| from (64904 in the above). If I make small changes to this number
| then the submission still seems to be accepted, but large changes
| result in "invalid". I'm guessing this number is some sort of
| fuzzy-ish checksum on the player's name, but I haven't worked out
| where it comes from.
|
| There is also a page at /tally which seems to map score values to
| integers (mostly 1, but some not) which I also haven't worked out
| the purpose of.
|
| [0] https://jsbeautifier.online/
| 0x0000000 wrote:
| You don't need to modify the logs, you can modify the "score"
| value and submit with (valid) logs from a different score, and
| it will go through. However, it seems the author is removing
| such scores from the leaderboard.
|
| Fwiw, you are correct that the digits in "id" is the duration
| of milliseconds. The letters in-between are random (found this
| in the source).
|
| If you're able to time any of the stages right, then you can
| find the missing variable: rate of gas dispensing (in this
| game, it's 6 seconds per gallon or 0.1666 gallons per second).
|
| For example, in 1931, the price is $0.17/gallon, and they want
| you to dispense $0.25 worth of gas. That's as little as 1.47
| (0.25/0.17) gallons, or as much as ~1.52 gallons. That means
| you want to hold the button for between ~8825 milliseconds and
| ~9175 milliseconds. If you divide that ~1.5 gallons by ~9000
| milliseconds, you've found the rate, 6 seconds per gallon.
|
| To generate your log entry for 1931, you'd then have something
| like this: {"year":1931,"price":0.17,"target":0.25,"sale":0.25,
| "id":"k8j9g5l8"}
|
| To generate your log id for any given year: Target / Price *
| 6000 = total milliseconds to hold the button. Just put a random
| letter in front of each digit and you're good to go.
| notjustanymike wrote:
| > It is 2005 and you have $0.39
|
| Scary accurate.
| Nbox9 wrote:
| I have 100% seen people use all of the change that they had on
| them for gas before in an attempt to make it to their nearby
| destination.
| pugworthy wrote:
| This clearly could be a mini-game inside of Desert Bus
| djyaz1200 wrote:
| hwers wrote:
| is BI paying for HN adbots now? or is this an attempt by the
| bot to engage normally so it won't trigger flags when it serves
| its real purpose?
| andrewflnr wrote:
| Weird, 938 karma and their comment history looks legit before
| this one. Account compromised, maybe?
|
| Ed: more likely just meant for a different article where it
| was on-topic.
| antholeole wrote:
| Interesting! What a pivot - from Gas Pump Golf to Instagram for
| $1B /s
| sixothree wrote:
| During high school in the 80's I had a car that I had not yet
| realized was leaking gas slowly. Of course, I did run out of gas
| on my way home from work. Of course, I didn't have my wallet.
|
| I guess since it was the late 80's, instead of calling someone
| for help I just asked a stranger for $0.25 to use the phone. I
| went inside and prepaid $0.25 worth of gas - about 1/4 gallon at
| the time. The cashier didn't even flinch. I literally pumped it
| into a plastic bottle I found, walked to my car and gassed it up.
|
| I made it home and grabbed my wallet and decided to see if it had
| enough gas to make it to the gas station. It did. All better.
| nfgrep wrote:
| Feels alot more like curling than golf, but "Gas Pump Curling"
| doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
| Nbox9 wrote:
| I think it's called golf because the objective is to have the
| lowest score.
| saco wrote:
| I feel like most people in this thread aren't understanding
| thoroughly that this game is telling you all that money is worth
| less every year incrementally, I wonder how long this can go on.
| karaterobot wrote:
| Inflation is hard to stop, and you probably wouldn't want to.
| Meanwhile, they aren't making more crude oil. So, it's
| definitely going to be more money for less gas as time passes.
|
| On the other hand, if they made a game where you held down a
| button to buy a certain amount of teraflops, it would probably
| go the opposite direction over time!
| zelag wrote:
| Is that supposed to be something deep?
| amelius wrote:
| Joules/gallon is also increasing. Your mileage may vary,
| though.
| carnitine wrote:
| Forever hopefully. Inflation is good and indicative of a
| healthy economy.
| ultra_nick wrote:
| Oh, I play this game on my watch when my phone dies.
| vgeek wrote:
| What if you fill the tank up and then level off to have the cents
| as a factor or multiple of the dollars?
| ohnoNotAgain321 wrote:
| Now you're just a few steps short of Numberwang:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Mitchell_and_Webb_Look#...
| vgeek wrote:
| Is this show better than Peep Show? I have it in my queue but
| haven't made an orchestrated effort to download it yet.
| KMnO4 wrote:
| What's the objective here? It's like a much slower reflex game
| with more waiting.
|
| One thing that real gas pumps have is variable flow control. Once
| you get to the last 10 cents you can ease up on handle and gas
| will trickle in at a much slower rate. Also, if you stop a few
| cents short you can "pulse" it a couple times.
| andrewflnr wrote:
| On a lot of pumps, even the lowest flow rate is still enough to
| make it tricky to hit an exact value. Even quick pulses can
| easily overshoot. I always appreciate a pump that lets me run
| it really slowly to creep up on that round dollar amount.
| garaetjjte wrote:
| >Also, if you stop a few cents short you can "pulse" it a
| couple times.
|
| People do that, but I feel most of these cents worth of fuel
| will be just left in hose instead of flowing out...
| redblacktree wrote:
| If you want maximum value, turn the pump off (typically a
| switch depressed by the tip of the pump when its in the
| hanger) and squeeze the handle all the way. This releases the
| pressure in the line and gives you those last few drops of
| gasoline.
| tills13 wrote:
| The objective is to have a little fun.
| klyrs wrote:
| Emphasis on little, I think. IRL, I shoot for an exact number
| of liters, not an exact number of dollars.
| djrogers wrote:
| > Emphasis on little, I think.
|
| You must be fun at parties.
|
| > I shoot for an exact number of liters
|
| Checks out.
| tills13 wrote:
| Honestly, no offense, but the number of comments like this
| in this thread show just how disconnected from reality this
| site and its users can be.
| klyrs wrote:
| No offense taken! And to the sibling, no, I'm not much
| fun at parties! I've been known to sit in a corner with a
| furrowed brow pondering a mathematical puzzle that nobody
| cares to hear about. I'm quite accustomed to being
| "other" wherever I bother to appear, and I tend to work
| on abstractions far removed from what people consider
| "reality", and, indeed, I find like minds here at HN. But
| I guess we've got an invasion of the normies today, who
| think that making fun of nerds is cool like it's the 80s
| again. Been there, survived it, let's move on.
|
| But, you've got my curiosity... what deep truth about
| "reality" is exposed by Gas Pump Golf?
| noah_buddy wrote:
| I think the person you're responding to was making a
| point that you're not concerned with money if you're not
| shooting for a dollar value but a liter value. The
| inferred disconnect, as I understood it, is one of wealth
| and not quite nerdiness.
| berdon wrote:
| >...who think that making fun of nerds is cool...
|
| No one did that, here, though. However, your responses
| _have_ been demeaning and reductive.
| gattilorenz wrote:
| > But, you've got my curiosity... what deep truth about
| "reality" is exposed by Gas Pump Golf?
|
| For non US players with little knowledge of the history
| of prices of petrol in the US, it's a fun way of seeing
| how it changed (and how incredibly cheap it still is).
| But that's probably not what they were trying to point
| out.
|
| Update: I think it's also interesting to see the
| different approach to filling up your tank. Why do you
| shoot for an exact number of liters? I've only had to do
| that with two strokes engines, so I know how much oil I
| need to add for the correct mixture. Otherwise it's
| either a full tank or a certain amount of money to avoid
| getting small coins back (if I pay cash).
| Nbox9 wrote:
| > What's the objective here.
|
| I think it provides a real-world feel for how gas prices have
| changed over the decade, which is a neat value add for a 4
| minute game.
| throw6622 wrote:
| If the creator is reading, consider adding "user-select: none;"
| to the button. On iOS when you hold on it it tries to select the
| text.
| [deleted]
| Rygian wrote:
| Unrelated: how can I disable, browser-wide, the ability for
| sites to set 'user-select: none'?
| krsdcbl wrote:
| you could add a css snippet for `* { user-select: all !
| important }` to override any occurrences of that property
| smegsicle wrote:
| unless the site already did that, so you'll have to out-
| override them by applying an id to the outer html tag and
| doing the ol' #useroverride#useroverride#
| useroverride#useroverride#useroverride#useroverride#userove
| rride#useroverride#useroverride#useroverride#useroverride#u
| seroverride * {user-select: all !important]
|
| or whatever
| pineconewarrior wrote:
| However if the style is inlined to the element and given
| an !important, you're SOL.
| invalidusernam3 wrote:
| JavaScript
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| Surely the cascade means that the user applied style with
| the same 'score' takes preference?
| wlesieutre wrote:
| On iOS you can use Stop The Madness's "Protect Text
| Selection" option, costs $8 but fixes all sorts of modern web
| annoyances
|
| https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stopthemadness-
| mobile/id158308...
| Taywee wrote:
| Setting an appropriate user style using something like Stylus
| to override it should work. See how this one does it:
| https://userstyles.world/style/2264/unblock-algoexpert-
| text-... If you can't set user styles in your browser, you
| might not be able to accomplish it, though.
| aqme28 wrote:
| Looking at the scores, I'm surprised no one made a little
| javascript bot to automate it.
| ReactiveJelly wrote:
| rockbruno sent a bogus score through the API directly now
| greggturkington wrote:
| Johnie wrote:
| 1. Find some gas merchants wanting to drive traffic to their
| stations
|
| 2. Hook this up to Plaid and to let people compete using their
| credit cards to be first to hit the number at the pump.
|
| 3. Profit!
|
| -- Edit: Heck, skip #1 and just sell ads on the site.
| Hamuko wrote:
| This game is not terribly fun.
| readthenotes1 wrote:
| What would be even less fun in many places is to do the same
| thing with the cost of having someone else pump the gas for
| you.
| marcosdumay wrote:
| The reviews are much better than the game.
| cortesoft wrote:
| This makes me think of the old American Express commercial with
| Jerry Seinfeld and "the perfect pump":
| https://youtu.be/m3JVr5HoeoA
|
| For some reason I always think of this commercial when I am
| pumping gas, and how outdated it is. I feel like most people pay
| using a card now, and those that don't usually have to pre-pay
| now, so the gas would shut off when they hit their amount anyway.
|
| I do remember trying to hit round numbers pumping gas when I was
| younger, though.
| MBCook wrote:
| I've tried it a few times even though I'm paying with a credit
| card just to see if I could do it. And entirely because of that
| commercial.
|
| Never did.
|
| But after trying to hit $20 I'd just go back to letting it fill
| my tank.
| js2 wrote:
| I still say "release the hounds" whenever I start pumping. :-)
|
| Years ago--late nineties--long after almost all pumps had CC
| readers in them, at least in Miami where I lived at the time,
| and those that didn't were at least electronically connected to
| the attendant booth, I pulled off at a station in rural
| Georgia.
|
| Old-style pumps with a mechanical display. You didn't have to
| pay first. I filled my tank, then went inside to pay.
|
| The attendant asked me how much I'd pumped. I hadn't thought to
| remember the amount.
|
| I said something like "oh, let me go check for you."
|
| He replies "no need", then pulls out a pair of binoculars and
| reads the amount off the pump.
|
| Recently, I get annoyed by a pump in NY that wouldn't accept
| any of my cards or my iPhone. It made me miss those days of
| mechanical pumps.
| honkdaddy wrote:
| What a great commercial, thanks for sharing.
| iKlsR wrote:
| Got the first two precisely, $0.25 and $4.23 but no way I was
| waiting for the $42.xx one however.
| smegsicle wrote:
| definitely needs a hold-clip feature, eg the button 'sticking'
| if you drag out of it? and show the current total in the title
| to simulate getting back in your car and peeking out at the
| display
| trevcanhuman wrote:
| Also it automatically pops if you have a Volvo, at least
| that's what happens whenever I pump it.
| gambiting wrote:
| Literally any car should do that, the clip works based on
| pressure - once the tank fills up the clip should bounce
| back, regardless of what car you drive.
| Cerium wrote:
| I think trevcanhuman is saying that the clip does not
| work well with his car. I had a '99 Camry that became a
| real bear to fill up around 2019 with the newest pumps.
| dragontamer wrote:
| In the real world... you're normally allowed to fill more gas
| into the tank if you're under, while going over is a problem.
|
| I do realize this changes the nature of the game, but maybe a
| better description of the rules is in order here? I released 2 or
| 3 cents early so that I can "top off", but this apparently isn't
| allowed.
| sneak wrote:
| I believe this is a simulation of the real-world non-top-off
| one try game.
| Tade0 wrote:
| I just imagined I had this much in my pocket and the
| awkwardness that would ensue should I misspump. Takes me back
| to my first years of driving.
| dragontamer wrote:
| Most pumps I've been to are "cash first". If you give $20 to
| the counter, the pump shuts off exactly at $20.
| frosted-flakes wrote:
| Not in Canada. Some pumps are pre-pay, particularly in
| bigger cities like Toronto where fill-n-fly is more of an
| issue, but usually you can just start pumping, then go
| inside to pay after. Most pump handles still have the
| trigger locks, too, so you can wash your windshield while
| it pumps.
| bee_rider wrote:
| I wonder if those are more recent. It would be funny if
| they changed it up in the game, since it does give you
| years explicitly. Like,
|
| Initially they could simulate pump-then-pay.
|
| Then a brief time of pay-then-pump.
|
| Then essentially pump-then-pay as it switches over to debit
| card.
|
| Finally, pump-then-pay with a random chance of a massive
| score penalty, to simulate the modern "maybe my card got
| skimmed" gas pumping experience.
| Nbox9 wrote:
| Maybe somehow asking the question "Will this pump up a
| $50 hold or a $100 hold on my card, because I only have a
| $75 balance and a $100 hold would create an overdraft
| fee".
|
| This game really lacks realism.
| dr_orpheus wrote:
| Yes, the pumps that automatically stop at a pre-set
| amount of money are newer. They aren't very common, but
| in some more rural areas of the US, I have come across
| the old style pumps that do not stop automatically and
| the attendant is just reading the value off of the pump
| to settle up. You can pay with a card at most of these
| places these days, but it is still paying a preset amount
| and then a sale and/or refund afterwards.
| bee_rider wrote:
| Haha, I assumed going over would be heavily penalized, and so I
| stopped a little short every time. Still got an OK score (83%).
| rzzzt wrote:
| The "why are you looking at the console" message got my first
| name right. Spooked me for a bit!
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