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       Show HN: MdSilo - A knowledge silo runs in your web browser
        
       Author : ihndan
       Score  : 79 points
       Date   : 2022-01-17 18:22 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (mdsilo.com)
        
       | ihndan wrote:
       | Hi, hackers and writers:
       | 
       | Excited to introduce mdSilo on Hacker News, it is a Zettelkasten
       | note-taking app runs entirely in your web browser, free and open
       | source.
       | 
       | We believe connection is good in thinking. mdSilo supports
       | [[BackLinks]], ((Block Reference)) to connect everything in
       | writing. On top of that, we also believe that the digital garden
       | is better not a walled garden. So mdSilo opens a window and
       | builds a bridge for each digital garden. We can connect with each
       | other via {{ PubLink }}. Just like links to liaison points
       | between private digital gardens, a liaison point can be a shared
       | wiki page of any systematic knowledge generated from different
       | digital gardens spontaneously.
       | 
       | Here are some of the features that mdSilo offers:
       | 
       | - WYSIWYG editor, Markdown support, Live Preview like Typora;
       | 
       | - PWA and Local File System Access support to make it functions
       | as same as native app on desktop;
       | 
       | - Side menu, Hovering toolbar, hotkeys, Slash command to make
       | writing and formatting fun;
       | 
       | - #HashTag and nested notes to help organize your writing;
       | 
       | - View your writing in different ways: Page Stacking View, Graph
       | view, Chronicle view, Task view...;
       | 
       | - Connect everything in your writing by BackLink, Block
       | Reference, Direct/Indirect Mentions, etc.;
       | 
       | - Import or export your notes at any time as Markdown files or
       | Json;
       | 
       | - Full-text search;
       | 
       | Like an online IDE, mdSilo is a vscode.dev for notes, a good free
       | and open source alternative to Obsidian, Roam Research and more.
       | 
       | mdSilo puts privacy first. No registering is required, no
       | installation is required, You are writing locally, you fully own
       | and control your data even the code(it is open source, anyone can
       | inspect it and make it even better together).
       | 
       | Official site and demo: https://mdsilo.com/ The source code repo:
       | https://github.com/danloh/mdSilo-web
        
         | 692 wrote:
         | this looks very good, but I'm I being daft?
         | 
         | I cannot see any instructions on how run it locally?
        
           | ihndan wrote:
           | Thanks and sorry for confusing you, You can go to live demo
           | from home page, the live demo is also a help docs.
           | 
           | To run locally or to open local folder, your web browser
           | should be Chrome or Edge which supports File System Access.
        
             | 692 wrote:
             | many thanks,
        
       | tethys wrote:
       | I was wondering if/when Firefox would implement the File System
       | Access API. Mozilla's official position [0] implies: Not anytime
       | soon, as they consider it harmful, mostly due to security
       | considerations.
       | 
       | > There's a subset of this API we're quite enthusiastic about (in
       | particular providing a read/write API for files and directories
       | as alternative storage endpoint), but it is wrapped together with
       | aspects for which we do not think meaningful end user consent is
       | possible to obtain (in particular cross-site access to the end
       | user's local file system). Overall we consider this harmful
       | therefore, but Mozilla could be supportive of parts, provided
       | this were segmented better.
       | 
       | The GitHub issue discussing this position is now closed [1].
       | 
       | [0] https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#native-
       | file-s... [1] https://wicg.github.io/file-system-
       | access/#security-ransomwa...
        
       | webwanderings wrote:
       | I recently started using Obsidian after playing with several
       | others. I think I'm going to stick with Obsidian as it has good
       | number of people around on an active basis. Your product looks
       | pretty fast and sharp but it is hard to trust browser-based
       | workload for such a personal and subjective activity.
       | 
       | The note-taking market is very crowded. I think note-taking has
       | already delivered its original slice bread. Pretty difficult to
       | continue to reinvent the same and expect a different result.
       | However, I do think, that going back to the basics of HTML
       | (instead of continuing with the markdown) may break the ceiling a
       | little further.
       | 
       | Any case. Good luck with your offering. It looks good and acts
       | well.
        
         | dennisy wrote:
         | Could you elaborate on what you mean when you say that HTML
         | would break the ceiling a little further?
        
       | jerjerjer wrote:
       | WYSIWYG markdown editor is such a rarity.
       | 
       | How do I run it locally/on my server?
       | 
       | Is it possible to make some of my notes public but RO?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | if your web browser is Chrome or Edge, which supports File
         | System Access API, you can open/edit your local files under
         | your permission.
         | 
         | no Publish feature currently, we can hope it in the future. you
         | can export your works as plain text Markdown files.
        
       | domador wrote:
       | This comment is not about MdSilo itself... but the design style
       | on the linked page looks too much like certain splog-like landing
       | pages I've come across (namely "this domain is for sale" pages.)
       | Since I opened a bunch of Hacker News links all at once, I almost
       | closed MdSilo's tab when I came across it, out of instinct.
       | 
       | Depending on how you spread the word about MdSilo, that may not
       | be a problem. If it is a problem, though, you may wish to address
       | it.
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | Thanks for your suggestion, I will tackle this next, Thanks.
        
       | ihndan wrote:
       | And works on local Markdown
        
       | RichardChu wrote:
       | Hey, the creator of Notabase [1] here, which it looks like MdSilo
       | was based off of.
       | 
       | Your project looks cool! Always interesting to see how other
       | people tackle note-taking. Thanks for keeping it open source.
       | 
       | I'd encourage people to check out Notabase as well, which offers
       | an alternative vision and UI which some people might like better.
       | You can use it hosted, or self-host it yourself -- the code is
       | open source [2].
       | 
       | Best of luck with MdSilo! :)
       | 
       | [1]: https://notabase.io
       | 
       | [2]: https://github.com/churichard/notabase
        
         | pwdisswordfish9 wrote:
         | > Thanks for keeping it open source.
         | 
         | Not really an option to do otherwise, thanks to the license
         | (AGPL).
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | Thanks Richard! :)
        
       | jklinger410 wrote:
       | Reminds me of HackMD (https://hackmd.io/)
        
         | maelito wrote:
         | Hackmd has no live preview. Huge difference !
        
           | jklinger410 wrote:
           | Yes it does.
        
       | delgaudm wrote:
       | Is this an alternative to Obsidian?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | Yes, It could be, and it is free and open source, with a
         | WYSIWYG editor
        
           | nvrspyx wrote:
           | Just to add, Obsidian had a recent update that introduced a
           | WYSIWYG editor.
        
           | HellsMaddy wrote:
           | It's open source? You should have a link to the repo on the
           | website.
        
       | chipironcin wrote:
       | Is there a way of self hosting the application in a server and
       | have it access the data stored on that server file system? (aka
       | runnings it in the cloud).
       | 
       | Thanks for distributing the fork and contributing to the note
       | taking apps landscape!
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | You can try Notabase https://notabase.io/, which is better for
         | self-hosting.
         | 
         | if you prefer mdSilo, need to toggle the Offline mode false in
         | code and use the third-part services: vercel and supabase
        
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       | walden789 wrote:
       | Looks cool! Does Json-import mean it can import from Roam? Does
       | it support Attributes and Attribute-Tables (like Roam)?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | It cannot. I need to do some research.
        
       | threatofrain wrote:
       | Any plans for Latex by any chance?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | Latex or Diagrams like flowchart still in mind, will not be
         | soon.
        
           | blintz wrote:
           | I had a pretty good time setting up Katex
           | (https://katex.org/) on my personal blog. It's fairly
           | straightforward and supports most of the set of LaTeX people
           | use in shorthand notes/blog posts. Having all the rendering
           | happen on the client is a big win too.
        
       | riffic wrote:
       | there's a lot of good stuff happening in this space. Nice to see
       | another option out there.
        
       | kikkoi wrote:
       | Does actually data sitting under local folder, but seems isn't
       | there web browser automatically update changes to the notes when
       | edit notes same folder with vscode?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | try to re-open/reload the folder?
         | 
         | Will tackle this issue, Thanks
        
       | danShumway wrote:
       | Other than pricing and being able to write without an account,
       | what would you say is the biggest difference between this and
       | Notabase?
       | 
       | Has anything with the format changed since the fork that would
       | prevent people from moving data between them?
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | Thanks to Richard. mdSilo is based on Notabase:
         | https://notabase.io/. You can move data freely.
         | 
         | The biggest difference between Notabase or any other networked
         | note-taking apps is that we introduced a new feature: {{
         | PubLink }}.
         | 
         | try it out for more details.
        
       | hammyhavoc wrote:
       | Sounds interesting. How is keeping a reading list tackled? I
       | currently use Obsidian.
        
         | ihndan wrote:
         | maybe can utilize the HashTag?
        
         | boringg wrote:
         | Just looked at Obsidian - seems interesting and the graph
         | connection seems neat but also a bit shiny object like. Do you
         | find it particularly useful?
        
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