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       In the 1800s, Jersey Island Was Covered With 12-Foot-Tall Kale
        
       Author : netgusto
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2022-01-24 08:40 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | smackeyacky wrote:
       | My favourite recipe for Kale:                 1. Heat up a frying
       | pan, warm some olive oil and thinly sliced garlic.       2. Chop
       | the kale leaves roughly and add to the pan.       3. Saute
       | quickly (1-2 minutes max)       4. Scrape the contents of the pan
       | into the rubbish bin.
       | 
       | I don't understand the modern obsession with kale, it's an
       | objectively terrible food.
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | This does not seem to contribute much to an article that is not
         | about the "modern obsession" with kale and that indicates, if
         | anything, that kale is _not_ a mere modern contrivance (though
         | perhaps its use as a human food has become rather faddish--a
         | fad which it is fortunately easy to avoid simply by not
         | partaking).
        
           | skeptical1 wrote:
           | It was a joke. Obviously. Jesus, this place is so humorless.
        
             | xwdv wrote:
             | Humor is not allowed here.
        
               | skeptical1 wrote:
               | I read your comment profile, and know exactly what you
               | mean about the "cancel culture." This is the first
               | profile I've had here where I've actually managed to get
               | a little positive 'karma' built up and avoid immediately
               | getting downmodded into oblivion and run out on a rail.
               | My very first account here a couple years ago, as a
               | bright eyed noob, was literally shadowbanned within 15
               | minutes, which absolutely blew my mind.
               | 
               | The moderation system here is seriously broken, and has
               | the effect of creating a toxic echo chamber of humorless
               | trigger-happy goons. I've read a lot of complaints about
               | it in various articles over the years, by names who no
               | longer seem to be around. The response always seems to be
               | EWONTFIX.
        
               | macintux wrote:
               | Every now and then a truly creative, funny joke is
               | upvoted heavily. The rest of the time, if I want shallow
               | snark I'll visit Reddit.
        
               | JadeNB wrote:
               | Indeed. The issue I had here was not that there was a
               | joke in a place of solemnity, but that it was an old and
               | low-effort joke that also didn't add to the discussion.
        
               | skeptical1 wrote:
               | Well then, I'll be sure to make sure any joke I happen to
               | post meets with the censors' unanimous approval, and is
               | the funniest thing anyone has ever heard, so they don't
               | unperson me. It certainly wouldn't do to have any of
               | these Very Serious comment threads squabbling for a
               | hundred pages about some minor nitpick of no actual
               | importance, which are often found littering the comment
               | sections here, derailed by any comment of less than
               | stellar quality.
               | 
               | By the way, what was this article about again? Kale?
               | Growing on an island, years ago? Interesting. Well, I
               | don't know anything about that, but I do know the grass
               | in the Great Plains USA was taller than a man on
               | horseback when European settlers first arrived. Less than
               | 150 years later it had all turned to dust, and blew away
               | in the wind. I wonder if there is a lesson here.
               | 
               | By the way, I laughed at the joke even though I have
               | nothing against kale; but who am I, who is the original
               | commentor, and why is our opinion in any way important or
               | valuable?
        
             | RC_ITR wrote:
             | Skeptical1 goes into a forum aimed at 'hackers,' is
             | surprised when they are pedantic and obsessed with
             | understanding rules.
             | 
             | There's a punchline somewhere...
        
               | skeptical1 wrote:
               | I've seen enough of this crowd to not be surprised at any
               | ridiculous thing that happens here. Like having a 50 page
               | Very Serious argument back and forth about some minor,
               | irrelevant detail, possibly having nothing at all to do
               | with the actual article, but a simple joke gets
               | downmodded because ZOMG HOW INAPPROPRIATE. Or lest we
               | forget, the various articles about things this crowd
               | clearly knows nothing about, like politics or economics,
               | but everyone has an opinion about anyhow.
               | 
               | By the way, given the frequent gasps of horror which are
               | heard here when people are confronted with the horrifying
               | suggestion that Microsoft is an evil corporation and
               | people should use Linux or BSD instead, along the lines
               | of "but I might have to compile my own wifi drivers tho!
               | egads!", or those who are appalled at the idea of system
               | startup using shell scripts ("the barbarity!") or the
               | frequent snarky remarks that C is a terrible, horrible,
               | no-good "unsafe" language that is unsuitable for any use
               | (despite virtually everything else in the world depending
               | on it), etc, etc, it's quite charitable to describe this
               | as being a forum for "Hackers." In many cases, it's more
               | like just a bunch of pretenders and wannabes.
               | 
               | Now how's that for humor? hehe...
               | 
               | Lynch mob in 3...2...
        
         | bewaretheirs wrote:
         | The article had the more constructive suggestion of using it as
         | cattle feed and for packaging.
         | 
         | I don't understand kale culture either -- the only way I've
         | found to make it edible involves combining it 1:1 by mass with
         | bacon.
        
           | bpodgursky wrote:
           | It's a better salad base than lettuce.
        
       | buryat wrote:
       | how did it taste? i'd imagine horrible otherwise some pre-
       | Sweetgreen would use them up for $15 salads
        
       | wil421 wrote:
       | I have some of the seeds from this variety of kale. It's called
       | walking stick kale. I've been trying to find a place to plant it.
        
       | Havoc wrote:
       | Lived there for years & never knew about this.
        
       | matthewmorgan wrote:
       | Where's Jersey Island? Is it anywhere near the island of Jersey
       | by any chance?
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | The actual title is "In the 1800s, This British Isle Was
         | Covered in Groves of 12-Foot-Tall Kale"; it's not clear why it
         | was edited.
        
           | CoastalCoder wrote:
           | The original title sounds a bit click-baity to me, so maybe
           | that's why.
        
         | Havoc wrote:
         | Yeah that's exactly what they mean here.
        
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       | panzagl wrote:
       | I saw an old documentary on this called 'Day of the Triffids'...
        
         | FpUser wrote:
         | ROFL. I did read the book.
        
       | 34679 wrote:
       | I learned this recently from another post here on HN:
       | 
       | "Brassica oleracea is a plant species that includes many common
       | cultivars, such as cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels
       | sprouts, collard greens, Savoy cabbage, kohlrabi, and gai lan."
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea
        
       | nanomonkey wrote:
       | These remind me of the tree collards that I grow in my garden.
       | Just pull off leaves from the bottom for dinner.
        
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