[HN Gopher] The Great Unconformity: Research points to glaciers ...
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       The Great Unconformity: Research points to glaciers being the
       culprit
        
       Author : cbkeller
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2022-01-30 19:52 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | ruined wrote:
       | it's notable that the missing time period is longer than the
       | entire time period since, including basically all of known
       | evolution. immediately prior to the discontinuity, there is only
       | very simple life, and immediately after, life is significantly
       | more complex, but also highly constrained, as after a mass
       | extinction.
       | 
       | i just like to think about this sometimes. it brings me a deep
       | sense of peace
        
         | codesnik wrote:
         | peace? why?
        
       | cbkeller wrote:
       | Geologist here -- happy to answer any questions about this! The
       | underlying paper [1] and the older one it builds on [2] are both
       | open access. The rj-MCMC for the time-temperature inversion used
       | an existing program from the thermochron community, but we made
       | most of the figures in Julia.
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       | [1] https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2118682119
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       | [2] https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1804350116
        
         | mynegation wrote:
         | Thank you! So I get it that glaciers eroded miles of rock from
         | the surface. But where is all that material? Was it moved to
         | the mounds elsewhere? (where?). Was it ground into gravel, dust
         | or silt and washed into the ocean?
        
           | cbkeller wrote:
           | Ground up and washed into the ocean -- and then ultimately
           | subducted and made into new magmas!
        
         | throwawaylinux wrote:
         | Noob question but are these layers in general built up from
         | sediments eroded mostly from higher ground, volcanic activity,
         | or both (or something else)?
         | 
         | In any case, if glaciers rapidly eroded kilometers of rock on a
         | continent-wide or global scale, could evidence in similar
         | layers be found for all that sediment when it is deposited by
         | the glaciers? And if so, might that look different expected by
         | the other theory (tectonic activity)?
        
           | cbkeller wrote:
           | Ah yes, quite right on the first part! The catch is that to
           | be preserved, those sediments have to be deposited somewhere
           | else on the continental crust, say in epicratonic seas [1] or
           | in subsiding basins [2]. If the sediments wash all the way
           | off the continental shelf and onto the ocean crust, then
           | they'll ultimately get subducted into the mantle!
           | 
           | The catch with glaciers is that putting a lot of big glacial
           | ice sheets onto the continents takes that water out of the
           | oceans, and lowers sea level -- meaning a bunch of places
           | where you could normally preserve sediments on the continents
           | will be above sea level during the glaciations (AKA above
           | "base level"), and more of those sediments will be washed off
           | the continents entirely. There still some places where you
           | can find the fossilized glacial till from these Cryogenian
           | glaciations (which is in part how we know they happened), but
           | it's basically only in the tectonic basins at the margins of
           | the continent that were subsiding fast enough to stay below
           | base level and not get eroded away.
           | 
           | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_sea_(geology)
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           | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedimentary_basin
        
         | vrdabomb5717 wrote:
         | I'm curious if we see other unconformities related to other Ice
         | Ages. If receding glaciers scraped away the earth and led to
         | this big of a gap, shouldn't this have happened again when the
         | glaciers receded after more recent ice ages, like in the
         | Pleistocene?
        
           | cbkeller wrote:
           | Great question -- and yes!
           | 
           | Pleistocene glaciation in the northern hemisphere has been a
           | lot shorter (so far) than the Cryogenian glaciations, but it
           | is probably not a coincidence that the outline of Canada's
           | "Precambrian shield" basically matches the outline of the
           | Laurentide ice sheet (check out Figure 5 of the 2019 paper
           | [1]). We're probably only talking about scraping off no more
           | than a couple hundred meters of sedimentary rock formerly
           | covering the shield, but that's about what you'd expect.
           | 
           | More broadly, as one author noted long before us [2] it turns
           | out that most of the places on Earth where there is a lot of
           | Precambrian crystalline basement exposed at the surface today
           | (i.e., where later sedimentary rocks have been scraped off,
           | one way or another) were glaciated either recently or in the
           | Late Paleozoic Ice Age [3], which hit much of Gondwana (see
           | also Fig S16 here [4]).
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           | More recently, another group of researchers using
           | thermochronology in Antarctica [5] found evidence of several
           | kilometers of exhumation during the Late Paleozoic Ice Age,
           | as well as perhaps 1-2 km during the last ~35 Myr of Cenozoic
           | glaciation (n.b., Antarctica has been glaciated for a good
           | bit longer than we've been having ice ages in the northern
           | hemisphere).
           | 
           | [1] https://www.pnas.org/content/116/4/1136/tab-figures-data
           | and see also Fig S16 in [4]
           | 
           | [2] https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa/gsabulletin/article/
           | 83/...
           | 
           | [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Paleozoic_icehouse
           | 
           | [4] https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/2018/12/26/180435
           | 011...
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           | [5] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.epsl.2018.10.044 (see
           | especially Fig. 7)
        
       | h2odragon wrote:
       | Alternate theory: Earth was assembled by some subcontractor who
       | skimped on construction costs where they thought no one would
       | notice.
       | 
       | This accounts for the absence of slood.
        
         | 74B5 wrote:
         | Let us thank the free market for his miraculous creation, amen.
        
         | neffy wrote:
         | But Slartibartfast designed every single one of those Glacial
         | Fjords personally!
        
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