[HN Gopher] Operation Warp Speed: A new model for industrial policy
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       Operation Warp Speed: A new model for industrial policy
        
       Author : gok
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2022-01-30 21:44 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | tomohawk wrote:
       | > In April 2020, Kadlec and Marks wrote a proposal for HHS
       | secretary Alex Azar, who in turn took it to Jared Kushner and
       | others in the White House, who were enthusiastic. President Trump
       | supported it and signed off on it. Azar brought in the DoD as
       | well. (The bureaucratic history of OWS, like everything to do
       | with it, is complex and contested.) Azar, Kushner, and others
       | then made two hiring decisions that were crucial to Warp Speed's
       | success, recruiting Moncief Slaoui, a pharma executive, and
       | Gustave F. Perna, a general, as its leaders. Slaoui, OWS's chief
       | adviser, had been chairman of global vaccines at GlaxoSmithKline
       | (GSK) and brought pharma knowledge. General Perna, OWS's chief
       | operating officer, had overseen the global supply chains for the
       | U.S. Army and brought logistical expertise.
       | 
       | It's really not possible to overstate what an accomplishment this
       | was. To stand up an organization like this outside of the normal
       | departments and to give it the political backing it needed. And
       | the accomplishment of not only getting multiple vaccines ready in
       | record time, but also solving the distribution logistics problems
       | in parallel.
        
         | NicoJuicy wrote:
         | Wait, getting multiple vaccines ready but none were from the
         | US.
         | 
         | The most used one is a partnership from Pfizer and was created
         | by Biontech. The vaccine was practically ready on day 2 of
         | COVID due to mRNA. Pfizer even declined Warp speed funding (
         | but pre-orders were accepted in December during phase 3 trials)
         | 
         | So I'm not sure why Warp speed is considered a success?
        
           | manuelabeledo wrote:
           | > Wait, getting multiple vaccines ready but none were from
           | the US.
           | 
           | Wasn't the Moderna vaccine developed entirely in the US?
        
             | SR2Z wrote:
             | And while the Pfizer one was majority developed by
             | BioNTech, they lacked the expertise to actually produce it
             | at scale.
        
               | NicoJuicy wrote:
               | And that happened at the existing Pfizer facility in
               | Puurs ( Belgium).
               | 
               | As far as I'm aware, no existing facilities were
               | upgraded/expanded?
               | https://www.politico.eu/article/belgium-town-puurs-
               | spotlight...
               | 
               | A big up for Belgian pharma facilities. But I'm unsure
               | about the role of operation Warp speed on this all.
               | 
               | As far as I'm aware, Pfizer/BionTech explicitly avoided
               | any funding through operation Warp Speed. They received
               | an order in phase 3 of the clinical trials.
        
               | yzmtf2008 wrote:
               | > As far as I'm aware, no existing facilities were added?
               | 
               | Nowhere in your linked article indicates that "no
               | existing facilities were added".
               | 
               | > As of January 2022, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19
               | vaccine is manufactured between 11 sites across five
               | countries, including the U.S., Germany, Belgium, Ireland,
               | and Croatia, and engages more than 20 suppliers.
               | 
               | https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/vaccine/manufa
               | ctu...
        
               | NicoJuicy wrote:
               | I'm from Belgium and i did follow up on Puurs and i
               | hadn't encountered any news that they needed to upgrade
               | facilities there.
               | 
               | That's what you should have copied my whole sentence: "as
               | far as I'm aware, no existing facilities were added".
               | Which in retrospect should be upgraded actually. Didn't
               | notice that mistake.
        
           | tomohawk wrote:
           | > ready on day 2
           | 
           | That's like some person in SV saying they had a great idea.
           | 
           | Who cares?
           | 
           | The level of execution in operation warp to get this past the
           | FDA processes was enormous. The industrial mobilzation to
           | create refrigeration units and transportation, and get all of
           | the logistics alligned in a few months. That is the stuff of
           | legend.
        
             | NicoJuicy wrote:
             | And that seems to me as patting themselves on the back.
             | 
             | Every country in Europe did this exact thing without
             | patting themselves on the back or calling it "Warp speed" (
             | eg. For Refrigerator units/logistics)
        
           | yzmtf2008 wrote:
           | > Wait, getting multiple vaccines ready but none were from
           | the US.
           | 
           | See sibling comment on Moderna.
           | 
           | > The vaccine was practically ready on day 2 of COVID due to
           | mRNA
           | 
           | No. "ready" as in we can produce a vile in a lab? Sure. Ready
           | as in tested in the general population, mass production
           | facilities, distribution networks? Absolutely not.
           | 
           | > So I'm not sure why Warp speed is considered a success?
           | 
           | Producing _a_ vaccine is about the easiest part of warp
           | speed. Having the supply chain needed to vaccinate the whole
           | population in such a brief time? That 's the success. Also,
           | it's literally the entire point of TFA.
        
             | dnautics wrote:
             | If I'm not mistaken the mRNA production is kind of bonkers,
             | it's outsourced to a bestiary of third party small contract
             | manufacturers. I could be wrong, but I don't think that any
             | newly released drug has rolled out like that at such a
             | scale in the past (usually it's one/a few plants all
             | controlled by the big pharma that gets certified by the
             | FDA). It's REALLY impressive that the bureaucracy figured
             | out exactly where to bend the rules and shepherded all of
             | the small contract manufacturers into compliance to get
             | reasonable batch-to-batch consistency and safety for these
             | vaccines.
        
           | Spooky23 wrote:
           | Nooo. There was a ton of logistics. The military was a key
           | part of the last mile distribution initially and for some
           | time.
           | 
           | Trump is a loathsome character, but OWS was a well executed
           | initiative.
        
           | vlovich123 wrote:
           | mRNA was an accomplishment to be sure. It's a necessary but
           | not sufficient condition. If you look at the stories for the
           | rollout, the logistics challenge posed by mRNA vaccines were
           | quite substantial, particularly refrigeration but also supply
           | chain logistics in general were complicated. Warp Speed
           | definitely was run competently by all accounts.
        
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