[HN Gopher] How we broke the supply chain
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       How we broke the supply chain
        
       Author : smollett
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2022-02-03 20:19 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (prospect.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (prospect.org)
        
       | hahahahahahff wrote:
        
       | egberts1 wrote:
        
         | longwick wrote:
         | Your comment does nothing to talk of the substance of the
         | article.
        
         | kurthr wrote:
        
       | roenxi wrote:
       | > Only deviating from free-market fundamentalism--giving everyone
       | health care, for example--could lead to shortages
       | 
       | This is true, the symptoms the article is looking at are strong
       | signals of non-free-market policies. Under capitalism, the
       | failure mode is going to be very high prices. If the failure mode
       | isn't high prices then the market probably isn't being run as a
       | free market.
       | 
       | Like when there is a crisis and the government steps in to ration
       | or fix prices and a breadline forms - that breadline isn't a
       | capitalist problem! Capitalism was suspended because the
       | government didn't like what would happen under capitalism (which,
       | I think we all agree, would have been high prices to the point
       | where there was still bread on the shelf that people could buy).
       | The capitalist outcome isn't a utopia, and isn't even pleasant,
       | but it also isn't a breadline.
        
         | royaltheartist wrote:
         | Ahh ha, this is like when I say a Scotsman was rude to me and
         | someone else informs me that it must not have been a true
         | Scotsman, then
        
         | avs733 wrote:
         | Exactly
         | 
         | When capitalism fails and something else steps in to fix it,
         | the fact that the fix is happening at the same time as
         | something bad means it must be responsible.
        
         | kibwen wrote:
         | I suggest that we stop looking at "the government" as some
         | entity that is separate from capitalism and/or markets.
         | Unregulated capitalism/free markets are unstable systems that
         | eventually _produce_ regulators one way or another; a
         | democratic government is just one form that this takes, but it
         | could just as easily result in a cyberpunk megacorp or a
         | military junta making all the rules. Markets _always_ trend
         | towards the consolidation of power, as a result of economies of
         | scale; any  "free" market will result in a winner who
         | eventually uses their power to set the rules to make sure they
         | stay on top.
        
       | xiphias2 wrote:
       | Inflation (money printing) is the cause of increased demand in
       | goods, not the result of supply problems. If the government sends
       | checks of money to people, they will compete for the same amount
       | of produced goods, and realize that they have to spend the money
       | faster if they want it to preserve its value better.
        
         | standardUser wrote:
         | During the Great Recession, a vast increase in the money supply
         | had no apparent impact in inflation. The idea that printing
         | money is a primary driver of inflation may be outdated. I also
         | think you're ignoring the dramatic and unexpected changes in
         | demand (and some constraint in supply) caused by the pandemic.
        
       | sayhar wrote:
       | This is a great article.
       | 
       | Rabbitholed a tiny bit on this part:
       | 
       | > Big companies got the law changed to enable ocean carriers to
       | offer secret discounts in exchange for volume guarantees.
       | 
       | To an article linked in the first article:
       | https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2018/12/congr...
       | 
       | > The last amendment to the Shipping Act occurred in 1998 as the
       | Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 1998, following a five-year study of
       | the effect of the Shipping Act on maritime trade and commerce.
       | The 1998 amendment allowed carriers and shippers to enter
       | confidential rate agreements providing discounted rates in
       | exchange for cargo volume commitments. In 2005, the FMC issued a
       | regulatory ruling extending authority to non-vessel operating
       | common carriers (NVOCCs) to enter such confidential rate
       | agreements with shippers.
       | 
       | > After the 1998 amendment, the maritime industry experienced
       | significant and widespread consolidation. In addition to carrier
       | mergers and acquisitions concentrating the bulk of containership
       | capacity in U.S. trades to fewer than a dozen large carriers, the
       | formation of vessel carrier alliances caused further substantial
       | consolidation. Currently, there are three major carrier alliances
       | representing 80 percent of all container trade. Within the
       | alliances, there has been further consolidation, e.g., the
       | creation of Ocean Network Express (ONE) by the merger of Japanese
       | carriers.
       | 
       | Damn.
        
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       | metacritic12 wrote:
       | When I first opened the site, I wondered if it was a more
       | technical/wonkish dive, or whether it was a political take.
       | 
       | Looking at the root site prospect.org made it clear it's the
       | latter.
       | 
       | Don't get me wrong, their thesis can still be right and their
       | fact presented are still valuable, but this is like reading about
       | "is free trade good" in the Economist. I would take away the
       | facts, not the conclusion.
        
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