[HN Gopher] That's all folks, for me anyway - Canon Rumors will ... ___________________________________________________________________ That's all folks, for me anyway - Canon Rumors will live on Author : techolic Score : 55 points Date : 2022-02-04 21:41 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.canonrumors.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.canonrumors.com) | ser0 wrote: | Since the description is pretty light. It seems Canon Rumors is a | site dedicated to Canon related news in the same vein as | MacRumors. | mercantile wrote: | Is anyone able to get a little more specific about the kinds of | "creators" he's talking about and what they do exactly which | drive these abuse problems? | | I read the article, but felt like there wasn't quite enough | information to understand what a YouTube person does to cause | trouble, although I totally believe it. I know a bit about | cameras, but nothing about this adjacent "rumours" subindustry. | jacquesm wrote: | Incredible how the assholes will even destroy something so | obviously good and by going after the guys' wife and kids no | less. It is absolutely disgusting. | | HN has its share of jerks, I've had someone threaten to come by | my house and beat me up (I'm pretty easy to locate) but I figured | it's all bluff and easier said than done, and in the | camarades.com/ww.com days I got far worse thrown at me so I've | learned to live with it. But it shouldn't come to that. | | The internet used to be a nice place. There were flamewars and | the occasional crappy argument but nobody threatened people with | bodily harm. Then the village became a town, and then the town | became a big city. And then all the bad stuff that happens in big | cities came right along with it, including the jerks, the | swatters and the drive by shooters. | | There is a Dire Straits song in there somewhere. | | Sites like canonrumors.com should be neutral territory, like | churches used to be, places where people can read and exchange | information without harassing the owners and the moderators. If | you have showdead on you can see what a 'nice' place HN is every | now and then. As it gets more mainstream here too the interaction | will get more coarse. | | I've already made up my mind to walk when dang does. | eunoia wrote: | Well a long time ago, came a man on a track | | Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back | | And he put down his load where he thought it was the best | | He made a home in the wilderness | | He built a cabin and a winter store | | And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore | | And the other travellers came walking down the track | | And they never went further, no they never went back | | Then came the churches, then came the schools | | Then came the lawyers, then came the rules | | Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads | | And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road | | Then came the mines, then came the ore, | | Then there was the hard times, then there was a war | | Telegraph sang a song about the world outside | | Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide | | Like a rolling river | | Never thought I'd get to quote a Dire Straits song on Hacker | News :) | throw0101a wrote: | > _Incredible how the assholes will even destroy something so | obviously good and by going after the guys ' wife and kids no | less. It is absolutely disgusting._ | | Wonder if it'd be helpful to publish and name names: | | > _However, yesterday they came at my children and my wife. | They came at my family..... little fanboys of certain YouTubers | that have obviously been raised horribly. What was in my inbox | I won't even show my wife. I'm tearing up writing this with | absolute disgust for how horrible people are becoming. All of | this is created by the personalities (I refuse to call them | creators), they feed off of it, they profit off of it and they | don't care._ | dekhn wrote: | When I was in college, my girlfriend lost her driver's | license. Somebody mailed it back to her, but with a | pornographic image pasted onto her face picture. | | I just don't get it. | moralestapia wrote: | >I've already made up my mind to walk when dang does. | | I used to hate dang with a passion because of a previous | account that got banned for ... reasons. | | But, with time, I've come to appreciate the job that he's been | doing in order to keep the community sane. Thanks dang and I | hope HN stays the way it is for a longer while :). | rrdharan wrote: | > And then all the bad stuff that happens in big cities came | right along with it, including the jerks, the swatters and the | drive by shooters. | | That stuff also happens in towns and villages. They just don't | have enough people to make it as much of a news story. | noja wrote: | I get an octet stream when I visit that URL | | edit: not the second time. | jacquesm wrote: | I think you just betrayed your age :) | burlesona wrote: | Seems like the site is getting the HN Hug of Death. | https://archive.fo/QF72b | dang wrote: | Also | https://web.archive.org/web/20220204212748/https://www.canon... | jffry wrote: | Here's a mirror: https://archive.ph/QF72b | | Linked page seems to have been hugged to death and is sporadic | about actually loading right now. | jer0me wrote: | Can someone provide more context? | mwidell wrote: | The author of the site went on a pretty fierce meltdown on | Twitter, throwing shit at several people but mostly Gerald Undone | who is a very loved, likeable, competent and successful gear | reviewer on youtube. Now he has just deleted all these tweets. | https://twitter.com/canonrumorsguy/with_replies | | Honestly I think he was just frustrated with the fame, success | and money that the gear-review-youtubers are getting, while he | was working hard to provide news on a website that struggled to | survive. That would be my guess at least. | silisili wrote: | Definitely not justified, but makes me as a consumer rather | sad. | | I'm not sure if generational, though it does seem that way - | but I'm personally astounded by the number of people who prefer | video reviews to a well written article. Aside from the obvious | things like having to listen and watch, not being able to | easily scan - there's just so.many.ads, not YT ads, but uh, | 'sponsors.' The whole industry feels incredibly gross and | insincere to me. | | Again, to be clear - that doesn't justify any of the above, | just kinda makes me think I'd feel the same way in his shoes. | sdenton4 wrote: | But did you read the canon rumors post? Without an ad blocker | on mobile it is a relentless wall of ads with occasional | sentences stuck between them... And of course a plea to allow | notifications. | newsclues wrote: | Not only is it shocking that so many people want video | content but once quality article websites are gone the | quality of videos that use the written content online as the | basis for the video scripts! | annoyingnoob wrote: | It sounds like someone threatened his family in a way that was | meaningful. How would you react? | Someone1234 wrote: | That wasn't what his original twitter rant was about though. | His original rant was about YTers being overpaid and | overrated, then this "someone threatened my family" claim was | after that all blew up. | | It isn't at all clear what started all this, but the claim of | threats/actual threats was the end of it. | mwidell wrote: | Having watched a lot of Gerald Undone's videos, I have a very | very hard time imagining how he could incite anyone to | threaten someones family. But I don't know the backstory, | just saw the meltdown. | dblooman wrote: | There are lots of people, especially YouTube commentators | who will rush to attack anyone who is seemed to have hated | on their favourite creator. It doesn't matter who started | what, it ended with apparent threats which is not ok | gkoberger wrote: | I'm not sure what happened, but it doesn't seem like this is the | whole story. He deleted his tweets, but Twitter replies seem like | this writer started it. This is the best I could find in regards | to context: | | https://twitter.com/ByStephenJones/status/148963260212212121... | | https://twitter.com/HarrisHeller/status/1489513376371785728 | | I know of neither person involved, and am not sure what's | happening. (It's hard to put together a timeline, and I'm not | sure what was said via email, but whatever it was didn't seem to | come from the YouTuber in question at all nor was it prompted by | him. The YouTuber in question seems like a pretty good guy, if | not maybe a bit less technical, from the very little I know.) | ziggus wrote: | Wait, is all this drama going on just about a camera equipment | blog/news site? | | WTF? | Gualdrapo wrote: | After learning about game developers being threatened by people | just because how they game performed, this does not surprise | me. | Someone1234 wrote: | That's a rather dismissive attitude. Internet personalities and | their fans have gone to war before, and you could dismiss those | just as easily as just about "gaming" or "PC hardware" or | similar. | | Like why not "just politics" and "just land." See everything | can be thrown out with the bathwater that way. | MikeDelta wrote: | Or programming language or web framework. | | Humans indeed like to form groups over any possible variable. | Too bad it sometimes brings up the worst. | cozzyd wrote: | Well it's better than my initial reaction (is author dying?), but | not by much. I'm not sure what the right solution is for | cyberbullying, but at some point we'll probably have to figure it | out. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-02-04 23:00 UTC)