[HN Gopher] Cool ice formations my friend discovered on his deck...
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       Cool ice formations my friend discovered on his deck this morning
        
       Author : davidbarker
       Score  : 147 points
       Date   : 2022-02-06 15:55 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | dmckeon wrote:
       | In caves, things like this would be called helictites.
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helictite
        
         | jwandborg wrote:
         | > They can be easily crushed or broken by the slightest touch.
         | Because of this, helictites are rarely seen within arm's reach
         | in tourist caves.
         | 
         | Wonderful bit of Gitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy-esque comedy.
        
         | chmod600 wrote:
         | It looks like the suggestion of extruding ice (in another
         | comment) seems more plausible than a kind of capillary action
         | as you suggest.
        
           | robocat wrote:
           | For it to be extruding ice, the top of the railing would need
           | to be full of water (which seems unlikely), and there need to
           | be multiple holes in the railing of the same cross-section
           | (which also seems unlikely).
           | 
           | Because it is snowing an ice cap can form on top of the rail,
           | and if the railing is warmer than freezing (for example if
           | the air is above freezing), then heat can be transferred to
           | the bottom of the ice cap, and water can come out the sides
           | of the ice cap?
           | 
           | Aside: I saw something similar recently while I was playing
           | with a Himalayan salt block candle holder, placed on a plate,
           | placed on a wood burner. Wetting the outside of the holder
           | with a sprayer causes the salt to dissolve and the brine
           | pools in the plate. As the brine pool dries due to the heat,
           | salt forms an impermeable crust on the pool, and then the
           | brine dries from the edge of the pool. The dried salt slowly
           | extends over the plate, and it then goes over the edge of the
           | plate and the salt dries on the underside of the plate. The
           | heat of the wood burner speeds up the process. I originally
           | saw the process happen to the salt block over months of time
           | while it was sitting on a dish, sitting in an environment
           | that is sometimes humid and sometimes dry. Edit: image
           | https://im.ge/i/XfAm8P
        
       | JulianMorrison wrote:
       | Looks similar to the fluffy ice that forms on wood and was
       | recently discovered to be caused by a fungus.
        
       | dade_ wrote:
       | Ice jellyfish have been in the news lately, but I prefer this
       | ribbon ice. https://www.pentictonwesternnews.com/community/ice-
       | jellyfish...
        
       | zipotm wrote:
       | Strange attractors saying "Hello!"
        
         | meetups323 wrote:
         | But aren't we all?
        
       | gus_massa wrote:
       | Something similar has been discussed in the past " _Extruding Ice
       | from Steel Fences and Pipes with Diurnal Freeze /Thaw_"
       | http://my.ilstu.edu/~jrcarter/ice/diurnal/extrude/ , but most of
       | the links are dead :( :( :(
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2089306 (148 points | Jan
       | 10, 2011 | 13 comments)
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26121775 (261 points | 11
       | months ago | 21 comments)
       | 
       | Anyway, from one of the comments I got this video " _Extruding
       | Ice From A Steel Pipe- Time Lapse_ "
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbiEfr5FxEA
        
         | hatware wrote:
         | A natural, sub-zero, 3D printer. Neat.
        
         | inetsee wrote:
         | A link to some more pictures:
         | https://www.kosmosjournal.org/news/frost-flowers-natures-exq...
        
         | _Microft wrote:
         | Internet archive to the rescue! This is not a particular
         | capture by the way, only one that still had content on the
         | page:
         | 
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20190216145020/http://my.ilstu.e...
        
         | jonnycomputer wrote:
         | Was coming in to say the same thing.
         | 
         | Super cool though.
        
       | anderspitman wrote:
       | Sorry if this is too OT but does anyone know the name of the
       | phenomenon when a bottle of water in a freezer gets just cold
       | enough that if you shake it a little it instantly turns into
       | slush?
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercooling
        
       | 0des wrote:
       | Twitter dislikes VPN users so it is unviewable for me, just
       | endless refreshing
        
         | tomxor wrote:
         | Do you find the same with Google?
         | 
         | Google seems to periodically block me outright, sometimes I can
         | get around it by switching servers but it becomes infuriatingly
         | obvious the high percentage of sites that integrate and depend
         | on Google (fonts, CDNs, map apis when there isn't even a
         | frickin map in the page)... when everything just hangs on foo-
         | api.google.com you start hating Google.
        
           | 0des wrote:
           | I don't know, I haven't tried, I do not communicate with
           | Google properties.
        
         | _Microft wrote:
         | https://nitter.net/CJF_NC/status/1490093486330322949
        
           | cmurf wrote:
           | Off topic rant, BUT I'm gonna...
           | 
           | What is this? Why is it so much faster, and mobile friendly
           | layout than either Twitter.com or their mobile app? And why
           | does Twitter.com spam me with an overlay telling me to use
           | the mobile app before I can see a tweet? Why do they care so
           | much about me using the mobile app that I get spammed
           | everytime I click a twitter.com link, only on mobile?
        
             | sva_ wrote:
             | Much easier to mine data about people through an app, and
             | also other kinds of stuff that it enables.
        
           | Tistron wrote:
           | Wow, that loads immediately and actually shows the content in
           | a useful way.
           | 
           | Thank you!
        
           | autoexec wrote:
           | Thanks, I haven't bothered clicking on any twitter links
           | since they started insisting on everyone allowing javascript.
           | nitter.net seems to solve that problem for me :}
        
             | jonnycomputer wrote:
             | I read twitter without an account. Twitter tries all kinds
             | of things to get me to log in. Now it blocks too much
             | scrolling on a particular person's tweets.
        
               | cbozeman wrote:
               | It's this kind of user-unfriendly design that makes me
               | want to abandon all social media.
        
             | _Microft wrote:
             | I am glad I could help! If nitter.net itself is not
             | working, you can pick a mirror from this list:
             | 
             | https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances
        
           | 0des wrote:
           | Thank you, I wonder if I can somehow automatically twitter ->
           | nitter in my hosts file or something.
        
             | StingyJelly wrote:
             | Privacy Redirect firefox browser plugin can do that:
             | https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect
        
             | halostatue wrote:
             | It doesn't help in-browser, but if you're on macOS and
             | using Finicky, you can add this to your `~/.finicky.js`
             | under the `rewrite` rules:                   {
             | match: ({ url }) => url.host === 'twitter.com',
             | url: ({ url }) => {             return { ...url, host:
             | 'nitter.net' }           },         },
             | 
             | It goes along quite nicely with my `medium.com` to
             | `scribe.rip` rule:                   {           match: ({
             | url }) => url.host.endsWith('medium.com'),           url:
             | ({ url }) => {             return { ...url, host:
             | 'scribe.rip' }           },         },
             | 
             | (It should be possible to make it pick a random list from
             | nitter mirrors.)
             | 
             | EDIT: Improved version that picks from random nitter
             | redirectors
             | (https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances#third-
             | party-...). It needs the following declared at the top of
             | the `finicky.js` file:                   const NITTER_HOSTS
             | = ['twiiit.com', 'twitit.gq']              const nitterHost
             | = () => NITTER_HOSTS[Math.floor(Math.random() *
             | NITTER_HOSTS.length)]
             | 
             | Then the rewrite rule is:                   {
             | match: ({ url }) => url.host === 'twitter.com',
             | url: ({ url }) => {             return { ...url, host:
             | nitterHost() }           },         },
        
             | bmgxyz wrote:
             | I use the Redirector[0] browser extension to do this, and
             | it works great.
             | 
             | [0]: https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/
        
               | 0des wrote:
               | Good lookin' out, thanks
               | 
               | Edit: Here's the config I use to twitter -> nitter
               | Redirect: https://twitter.com/\*         to:
               | https://nitter.net/$1         Hint: Any word after
               | twitter.com leads to nitter
               | Example:https://twitter.com/some-username -
               | https://nitter.net/some-username         Applies to: Main
               | window (address bar), IFrames
               | 
               | That got me wondering what other frontends there are for
               | popular sites, and though I don't use reddit, I know a
               | lot of folks do, so this should work for a thing I just
               | found called 'teddit' which is inspired by Nitter
               | Redirect: https://reddit.com/*         to:
               | https://teddit.net/$1         Hint: Any word after
               | reddit.com leads to teddit         Example:
               | https://reddit.com/u/some-username -
               | https://teddit.net/u/some-username         Applies to:
               | Main window (address bar), IFrames
        
               | dublinben wrote:
               | Here's a great compilation of privacy-preserving, JS-free
               | front-ends for many popular sites like Twitter, Reddit,
               | Youtube, and more:
               | https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends
        
               | 0des wrote:
               | Thanks!
        
       | YaBomm wrote:
       | Probably should drive some drain holes at the bottom of that
       | railing?
        
       | __MatrixMan__ wrote:
       | I think it's called ribbon ice.
       | 
       | I've always thought it would be cool to have containers that are
       | designed to extrude it so that before a storm comes you could
       | fill them with water and have a transient art thing happen.
       | 
       | I think that the temperature requirements are rather specific, so
       | you might also need some kind of temperature control widget to
       | make it happen more reliably.
        
       | tobr wrote:
       | This made me remember a strange phenomenon I noticed a winter day
       | a few years ago. In a park with some trees there was consistently
       | less snow coverage in a line going away from each tree, always in
       | the same westward direction. Basically following a shadow of the
       | tree. Looking around at other objects I also noticed the
       | phenomenon next to some signs and metal poles.
       | 
       | What could explain this? I could understand if there were _more_
       | snow or ice in the shadow, as the ground would be colder there,
       | but why would there be less?
        
         | quercusa wrote:
         | The trees reflecting afternoon sun?
        
         | AYBABTME wrote:
         | Probably prevailing wind conditions.
        
         | sjg007 wrote:
         | It's probably windy and the snow piles up on the windy side of
         | the tree.
        
         | minitoar wrote:
         | Possibly less vegetation in shadow of these objects, and
         | therefore less insulation between snow and warmer earth.
        
         | Philip-J-Fry wrote:
         | Probably was snowing gently at some point and then later on it
         | got windy and was blowing west.
        
       | winrid wrote:
       | It's like the ice version of tin whiskers.
        
       | engineer_22 wrote:
       | This is called hoarfrost
        
         | drewcoo wrote:
         | The spiraling icicles in the photo are not hoarfrost.
         | 
         | Wind conditions there must me interesting.
        
         | CommieBobDole wrote:
         | I don't think that's correct - hoarfrost is sort of a feathery
         | looking frost that forms from water vapor in the air on cold,
         | clear nights.
         | 
         | This looks more like ice created from water freezing inside
         | something and being extruded through cracks or holes.
        
         | CrazyStat wrote:
         | Hoarfrost is ice crystals that grow in place, which is
         | different. This looks to be formed by extrusion.
        
         | smoldesu wrote:
         | That's... phonetically unfortunate.
        
       | soheil wrote:
       | I wonder if the underlying mechanism responsible for forming
       | these ice formations are the same as that of plants and vines. It
       | seems to me the boundary between what we call alive vs not is
       | getting ever blurrier.
        
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