[HN Gopher] NES 64 - Commodore 64 Kernal and Basic ROMs Ported t...
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NES 64 - Commodore 64 Kernal and Basic ROMs Ported to the NES
Author : muterad_murilax
Score : 72 points
Date : 2022-02-15 19:54 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| KerrAvon wrote:
| I was just thinking that what the NES really needs is the world's
| slowest disk drive.
| Zenst wrote:
| I'll defrag that for the younger audience - the commodore 64
| had a slow external disc drive and best explained "The 1541 was
| very slow in loading programs because of a poorly implemented
| serial bus, a legacy of the Commodore VIC-20"
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_peripherals#Flopp...
| reaperducer wrote:
| _I 'll defrag that for the younger audience_
|
| Does the younger audience even know what "defrag" is?
|
| I don't think I've defragged a drive since the days when you
| could magically make more RAM and storage appear by running
| Stacker.
| rzzzt wrote:
| I can't find any stats on the Famicom Disk System, but it was
| probably not a beast.
| bullen wrote:
| That and one button joystick!
|
| But fortunately for us RR-Net and Nunchuk64 solves both
| problems.
|
| I load Super Mario Bros. 64 in 1 second over ethernet with
| codenet from my PC and then I play it with NES Mini I2C
| controller on C64!
| qbasic_forever wrote:
| Wow I had no idea there was a keyboard and BASIC ROM for the
| Famicom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_BASIC It's a shame
| this never got released for the NES in the USA. I would have had
| a lot more fun with this instead of the silly Rob robot.
| kwertyoowiyop wrote:
| Why have I never thought of trying to get AppleSoft running on
| the NES? I have no imagination.
| buescher wrote:
| What fun. I was an Atari guy but I could get into something like
| the Apple II firmware running on something from the era with more
| interesting graphics and sound hardware.
| ncmncm wrote:
| Where does this spelling "kernal" come from, originally, and why
| is it so persistent?
|
| (Serious question, not a complaint.)
| einherjae wrote:
| Commodore themselves called the OS "kernal" in the manual.
| warpspin wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL#The_name
| reaperducer wrote:
| Today I learned:
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| "the KERNAL implemented a device-independent I/O API not
| entirely dissimilar from that of Unix or Plan-9, which nobody
| actually exploited, as far as is publicly known. Whereas one
| could reasonably argue that 'everything is a file' in these
| latter systems, others could easily claim that 'everything is
| a GPIB-device' in the former."
| chillingeffect wrote:
| I love this, but it's kinda the wrong direction as C64 BASIC had
| no instructions for gfx and sound.. it was all through pokes. I
| liked using Simon's Basic to get GFX on my C64 back in the day,
| but until I had it, I highly envied the Apple 2 and Atari BASIC
| commands!
| buescher wrote:
| This is basically why there are all these Commodore firmware
| ports - because the kernal doesn't provide all that much and
| the BASIC has no substantial hardware dependencies.
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