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Fullmoon - Redbean-based Lua web framework deployed as single file
Author : keb_
Score : 105 points
Date : 2022-02-18 14:04 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| laerus wrote:
| the best part is you can use Fennel lang for this.
| Shadonototra wrote:
| not slow enough to compile, is there a rust rewrite please? /s
|
| lua is a lovely scripting language, i was looking at replacing my
| bash scripts the other day in my project, lua could be a solid
| candidate..
| christophilus wrote:
| This looks great.
|
| > Highly experimental with everything being subject to change.
|
| Makes me a little hesitant to give the tires a serious kick,
| though.
| paulclinger wrote:
| Don't be. I just want to provide a fair warning, but some of my
| other projects (wxlua and ZeroBrane Studio already mentioned in
| other comments) maintain compatibility with dependency versions
| released 8 years ago. The API is also more stable than it was
| at v0.10 when the warning was added, even though I do expect
| changes, as both Fullmoon and redbean continue to be developed
| and new features are being added.
| rainingmonkey wrote:
| Very nice!
|
| Apart from using Redbean (which looks interesting itself), could
| you summarize the differences between Fullmoon and Lapis?
| paulclinger wrote:
| (Fullmoon author here) I actually started with integrating
| Lapis into redbean (I have redlapis module that mimics a subset
| of openresty API over redbean to Lapis, so I can run it over
| Redbean), but it led to too much work given the difference in
| the underlying server architecture, so I abandoned this effort
| in favor of the redbean-focused one (can publish what I have if
| someone is interested to give it a try). There were also some
| philosophical differences; for example, I preferred a different
| routing implementation (with specific routing order) and it was
| difficult to change or re-configure the one in Lapis.
|
| In terms of the differences, Lapis is definitely the more
| feature rich one, as it includes its own ORM and integration
| with various back-ends (including data access and migration).
| Lapis is largely class-based and Fullmoon is taking a more
| procedural approach, which I think aligns better with redbean's
| simplicity and performance. Lapis provides session support,
| which Fullmoon currently doesn't have, but it's one of the next
| functions I plan to implement. Routing and templating
| capabilities are similar in both, even though the approaches
| taken are quite different.
|
| Fullmoon is likely to be noticeably faster (at least based on
| my local tests) and can leverage some of the components already
| available in redbean out of the box (for example, argon2, hmac
| functions, and direct SSL integration). Lapis is well
| documented and has several interesting projects built on it, so
| it's much more battle tested. fullmoon is only 3 months old and
| is being actively worked on. Its code is also much shorter, so
| it may be easier to study and tweak. Fullmoon also includes
| 150+ tests that one can run locally or from redbean.
|
| Hope this helps as a quick overview, but if there are more
| detailed questions, let me know.
| lxe wrote:
| Anything from the cosmopolitan/actually pdrtable executable world
| is always a delight.
| john-tells-all wrote:
| Seconded. Paul's contribution of the Fullmoon web framework is
| a great way to promote the stunning Cosmopolitan viewpoint.
| synergy20 wrote:
| Need : sudo sh -c "echo ':APE:M::MZqFpD::/bin/sh:'
| >/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register" to run redbean, this really
| should be documented for linux
|
| to run the demo, still I got lots of warning about
| "tool/net/redbean.c:1034:redbean:68740] (lua) failed to run lua
| code: /.init.lua:1: module 'fullmoon' not found", adding the path
| to LUA_PATH and LUA_CPATH did not help.
|
| last, is there a lua version requirement for this? My system
| default to lua 5.1.
|
| I was thinking about using this for an embedded board, but the
| code is actually quite large, 1.6M after zipped, which is too
| much for small boards.
| paulclinger wrote:
| Yes, that register patch may be needed on some Linux systems;
| I'll add this to the documentation.
|
| Redbean can't use the system Lua, so it comes bundled with its
| own Lua interpreter (Lua 5.4; there is also work being done to
| allow LuaJIT or Luau to be embedded instead).
|
| The modules need to be put in the .lua directory within redbean
| archive; redbean searches within its archive, so you don't need
| to set LUA_PATH/LUA_CPATH. I have instructions on how to get
| examples working included in the examples
| (https://github.com/pkulchenko/fullmoon/tree/more-
| links#examp...) section.
|
| In terms of the size, this includes MbedTLS and SQLite, so if
| you don't need those modules, you can compile redbean without
| them, which should reduce the size considerably.
| simonw wrote:
| The documentation for this (all in the README) is really, really
| good.
| dingdingdang wrote:
| Just looked over the github page, showcase examples include https
| usage and a LOT of practical details on how to make practical use
| of Redbean/Cosmopolitan ecosystem. Thanks a lot to Kulchenko for
| the work done on Fullmoon!
| paulclinger wrote:
| Thank you for the feedback and all the kind words. @jart did a
| great job on Redbean/Cosmopolitan, so it's a delight to use and
| build on top of.
| kissgyorgy wrote:
| It's a little bit tricky to put Redbean in a Docker container, if
| you want to do so, check out this repo, it might help doing that:
| https://github.com/kissgyorgy/redbean-docker
| keb_ wrote:
| In case anyone didn't know, as another user rightfully mentioned,
| this is by Paul Kulchenko who is widely known for his work on the
| very impressive, very lightweight, and very robust Lua IDE,
| ZeroBrane Studio[1]. The man has a pretty amazing track record.
|
| [1] https://studio.zerobrane.com/
| dingdingdang wrote:
| Thanks for introducing Zerobrane, really looks fantastic. Also
| by extension introduced me to https://makeself.io/ for making
| Linux installations.
| robbedpeter wrote:
| Paul Kulchenko is a wonderful human being - zerobrane is a joy to
| use.
|
| This looks like it could mesh very well with Node Red, or really
| any Lua scripted environment. Thanks!
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