[HN Gopher] Ian Cutress leaves Anandtech
       ___________________________________________________________________
        
       Ian Cutress leaves Anandtech
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 308 points
       Date   : 2022-02-18 15:07 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.anandtech.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.anandtech.com)
        
       | mensetmanusman wrote:
       | Technology Journalism is interesting, because those most
       | qualified would almost always be taking a huge pay cut to
       | contribute.
       | 
       | Those technologists that work in a field of interest only publish
       | in illegible patent speak or keep trade secrets.
        
         | blowski wrote:
         | Don't remember who said it but "technology writers either know
         | about technology or writing, rarely both".
        
       | bavell wrote:
       | RIP Anandtech. It was the first tech news site I followed as a
       | teen and got me into hardware, letting me peer behind the curtain
       | of these mysterious machines we all use. Probably responsible for
       | me choosing computer engineering in university. Many good
       | memories of flashes of insight, wonder and amazement.
       | 
       | Haven't been frequenting the site as much since Anand left and I
       | felt the site's days were numbered. They still had good content
       | coming out but with Ian leaving, I think most (all?) of the old
       | guard has left and this is probably the final nail in the coffin.
        
         | uluyol wrote:
         | I've always enjoyed Ryan Smith's articles, but I think he's
         | been busy with other duties since taking over. I have noticed
         | that the quality of work coming from their junior writers
         | improves over time. I mean just look at Ian. I always enjoyed
         | his writing, but in the past few years it has gotten really
         | really good and he's expanded to doing many Q&As and interviews
         | (where you know, he actually asks interesting and tough
         | questions).
        
         | awiesenhofer wrote:
         | Don't count them out just yet - they still got Billy Tallis
         | excellently covering the storage side of things. At least I
         | think they do, haven't seen much of him in a while.
        
           | IanCutress wrote:
           | Billy left in the middle of last year
        
             | awiesenhofer wrote:
             | Damn, now I'm getting pessimistic as well. Thank you for
             | the clarification!
        
       | vbphprubyjsgo wrote:
       | Isn't that just a techspam website? I only read their monitor
       | reviews and they were all wrong.
        
       | georgeburdell wrote:
       | Not unexpected. He's been building his own brand (TechTechPotato)
       | on YouTube for a while.
        
       | pxeger1 wrote:
       | Steve from GamersNexus said a few weeks ago he might have just
       | managed to catch "a big fish" in hiring...
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | IanCutress wrote:
       | Pfft I didn't expect this to be HN worthy, but y'all are amazing
       | 
       | I'll still be around, doing my YouTube channel on tickover before
       | other ventures are ready. Just need to square some things away,
       | and I'll probably announce via Twitter next week.
       | 
       | Anything input always welcome!
        
         | lynguist wrote:
         | No, that's so sad! You're my favorite writer at Anandtech! I
         | was loading the main page of Anandtech every few days to see if
         | you wrote a new article!
        
         | dilippkumar wrote:
         | Regular reader here. Good luck on your future ventures!
         | 
         | If you are going to continue to participate in written content
         | on the internet, please remember that RSS is not dead and there
         | are many of us who consume content exclusively via RSS. My 2
         | cents :-)
        
           | wilsonjholmes wrote:
           | Yes!
        
         | sydthrowaway wrote:
         | Are you going to join FAANG?
        
         | toiletfuneral wrote:
        
         | ericd wrote:
         | Thanks for all the great articles over the years, especially
         | the in-depth CPU ones!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | hendersoon wrote:
         | I'll read anything you write Ian, good luck on the next step!
        
         | CitizenKane wrote:
         | Hey Ian, thanks for all the very thoughtful content over the
         | years. I started reading Anandtech shortly before Anand left
         | and I remember being worried. However, in hindsight there was
         | clearly nothing to worry about.
         | 
         | Your analysis helped convince me to go all in on some AMD stock
         | purchases that ended up really saving me over past year. It's
         | beyond appreciated, and I'm far more knowledgeable about
         | semiconductors thanks to you! Best of luck in your new journey
        
         | cebert wrote:
         | I always loved reading your articles and interviews. You never
         | dumbed things down, which I've always appreciated.
        
         | ethbr0 wrote:
         | One curious question.
         | 
         | No names or details, but in hindsight was there ever news or
         | review points that you felt should have been reported, but
         | wasn't because of publishing / relationship concerns? (Read:
         | actual, factual details... discounting pique at counterparties
         | / PR being assholes from time to time and deserving to be
         | blasted)
         | 
         | I've always been curious how that balances. Would hope the type
         | of stuff AnandTech covers has more natural immunity (vs
         | something like games journalism).
         | 
         | PS: Thanks for all your work over the years! Between you and
         | Anand, you guided years of PC builds, starting with a Pentium
         | IV on an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe to get my university fiber-to-
         | the-room traffic off the PCI bus. ;)
        
           | IanCutress wrote:
           | There were stories over the years that I wanted to write but
           | didn't get approval. Anything that might instigate a
           | political discourse was discouraged, for example, such as a
           | story about holding an event about wireless network
           | connectivity in an area where locals struggled to get even
           | basic phone service.
           | 
           | I mean, there have been times where PR have been rude and
           | incorrigible. Nothing to the extent that it'd be worth
           | putting them on loudspeaker for, as that'd gut any future
           | relationship, and sometimes it's down to one person in the
           | chain causing the fuss, not the culture.
           | 
           | Part of what I've learned at AnandTech is how these chains of
           | command work - you're not speaking with Company X, you're
           | speaking to Person A on behalf of company X, and sometimes
           | the information they are feeding you goes through 15 hands
           | before it gets to you and if there's a bad apple in that
           | chain, it could cause it all to go pear shaped. That's also
           | part of the 'behind the curtain' I've tried to showcase in my
           | reporting, rather than just simply dealing with a big box
           | with company logo on it that prints money.
           | 
           | Part of the balance you describe is, in my mind, simply the
           | result of reporting on people. If you stick to the science,
           | the research, there's less room for disagreement.
           | 
           | Then again, Samsung stopped sampling us smartphones because
           | every Snapdragon/Exynos review we did, with industry standard
           | tests and power measurements, showed Snapdragon ahead for
           | several years. They felt it wasn't in their best interests to
           | sample us anymore, so we ended up buying the hardware after
           | launch. At least, that was the PR team who didn't want to
           | talk. The SoC team still wanted our input, but the way
           | Samsung works, it was always difficult to have those
           | discussions. Compare that to Samsung Foundry, who have
           | invited me to consecutive industry events to learn about new
           | features - they loved the coverage, and the questions I ask.
           | Same company, different BUs, different media list, different
           | blacklists.
           | 
           | Perhaps it's worth a book. When I'm retired.
        
         | CyanBird wrote:
         | Looking forward to your future adventures!
         | 
         | I guess we all already can take a guess at where you might end
         | up haha
         | 
         | Cheers!
        
           | apetresc wrote:
           | Does the guess rhyme with "sinus"?
        
             | willis936 wrote:
             | Not "wenis"?
        
       | ksec wrote:
       | Oh no. I have long suspected this will happen Anandtech seems to
       | have trouble getting editor to stay. And people are either
       | leaving or becoming freelance. Andrei left not long ago. I am not
       | even sure if they have a full time editor any more.
       | 
       | I think he is going to spend a lot more time on his Youtube
       | Channel. OR,a possible scenario.... Would he be joining STH? I
       | know he sometimes comes to HN :)
       | 
       | >and all I've wanted to do is lash out!
       | 
       | I am glad I am not the only one. And that is why I enjoy
       | Anandtech and Ians writing so much. To educate the reader instead
       | of being mislead by marketing and sloppy journalism that are only
       | here for clicks.
        
         | AlphaSite wrote:
         | I know LTT is also starting a lab and talked about getting
         | certain folks to join his team...
        
           | EtienneK wrote:
           | This was my 1st thought as well. Also, Linus said "think I
           | can't afford you? Try me".
        
             | szundi wrote:
             | This may change later when he might realize (hop not) that
             | these guys don't return enough on investment. But maybe LLT
             | is the one who will be popular enough, who knows.
        
         | ethbr0 wrote:
         | Good review sites suffer the same problem as government: from a
         | financial standpoint, you cannot afford to pay people
         | competitively vs their alternatives, for the skills you really
         | want.
         | 
         | So it becomes a labor of love. But that only goes so far, for
         | so long.
         | 
         | IMHO, in an industry like that, you have to be honest about
         | what you're bringing to the table for employees in lieu of
         | compensation: an opportunity for increased name recognition and
         | networking in a public role, and the fun of being a public
         | face!
         | 
         | But! You also have to continually deepen the bench with new
         | prospects, because you know you're going to be continually
         | hemorrhaging top tier talent to job switching.
         | 
         | Credit to AnandTech that people stay for as long as they do.
         | 10+ years is damned impressive!
        
           | Ataraxic wrote:
           | I remember joining the anandtech forums in the very early
           | 2000's. I'm continually surprised how great a resource it's
           | remained for over 20 years now. Certainly impressive!
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Journalism is one particular problem. I expect most halfway
           | decent tech journalists could head to many tech companies to
           | do content marketing and make a lot more money--though they
           | might well find the work less interesting.
           | 
           | Arguably, pay disparities in the industry exist more broadly
           | even if you just restrict the conversation to
           | developers/engineers. I suspect that the big tech companies
           | are sucking a lot of the oxygen out of the room at least in
           | the US. Some people may not _want_ to work for those
           | companies and others, whether because of lack of skill, poor
           | interviewing, or just bad luck, can 't get an offer. But if
           | someone can get in, it will be hard for a lot of other
           | companies to match the comp.
        
             | erosenbe0 wrote:
             | Big tech SWE interviews seem to be just tests that are very
             | poorly administered. With practice and some luck a large
             | segment of the developer population can pass within a few
             | years of really diligent effort. Some need a lot more
             | practice than others though.
             | 
             | I don't know why they don't just administer real tests.
             | Probably some kind of demographic or legal nightmare?
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | Well, for one thing, if it's a standardized test, it will
               | be leaked even if there are a few different versions. "A
               | few years of really diligent work" also seems a pretty
               | high bar to improve odds of getting a job at a handful of
               | companies.
        
               | creato wrote:
               | If people are spending a few _years_ to prepare, that's
               | probably enough time to self educate to actual
               | competence.
        
               | ethbr0 wrote:
               | Given enough optimization and no upper limit on
               | prospective hire annoyance, any interview test series
               | eventually evolves into an undergraduate degree program.
        
         | sidkshatriya wrote:
         | > I have long suspected this will happen Anandtech seems to
         | have trouble getting editor to stay
         | 
         | Wasn't Ian associated with Anandtech for 10 years? That seems
         | like a long enough in today's world.
         | 
         | Also please note that working for Anandtech gives you a lot of
         | profile and publicity. Other people in the industry may want to
         | snap you up!
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | _> Anandtech seems to have trouble getting editor to stay._
         | 
         | I don't think we should necessarily celebrate people continuing
         | to do the same thing over a long period of time. Humans like to
         | grow and experience a variety of things. Change is good. You
         | have 11 lifetimes:
         | 
         | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-09-02
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Perhaps but
           | 
           | 1.) People can grow and change within a single organization,
           | especially given that they're not spending a lot of time to
           | learn a new place and
           | 
           | 2.) We also shouldn't celebrate people because they jump
           | around every 18 months when something isn't going quite their
           | way or they've gotten bored.
        
             | munificent wrote:
             | Sure but in this case, the person was there 10 years, so
             | (2) doesn't seem to apply.
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | Oh certainly, 10 years is a very respectable tenure with
               | an organization. That's been around the point where, at a
               | couple of prior jobs, I was definitely ready to move on.
        
               | mastazi wrote:
               | my biological clock seems to be 4 or 5 years max in an
               | organisation and about 10 years max in a given career (sw
               | development is my third "career" so to speak, what I did
               | before was completely unrelated; I'm already planning the
               | next endeavour which is only tangentially related to
               | "tech")
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | kapilvt wrote:
       | I appreciate so much two folks in tech reporting Ian and Jon
       | (Corbet at lwn.net), over the last decade they have both put out
       | so much content, that frankly pulls the behind the layers to make
       | them not magic but, science and journalism with integrity.. kudos
       | and if we find ourselves in go fund me journalism, know that I'm
       | happy to contribute to the cause.
        
       | tom-thistime wrote:
       | Maybe he'll get Joy Division back together again.
        
         | mrweasel wrote:
         | Isn't that a brand of sex toys?
        
           | acomjean wrote:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Division
           | 
           | and Ian Curtis.. Vs Ian Cutress...
        
           | agumonkey wrote:
           | More like an architectural choice.
        
       | jpgvm wrote:
       | Ian if you come by HN and see this I would like to say thanks for
       | all the amazing content over the years. Tech needs quality
       | journalists and you are one of the greatest we have ever had. I
       | hope you land somewhere where you can continue to output such
       | great stuff.
        
         | IanCutress wrote:
         | Thanks :)
        
       | awill wrote:
       | I feel AT is great for enthusiasts. I want them to become more
       | mainstream, as their reviews are so much better than generic tech
       | sites, but they need a better balance. They sometimes release
       | iPhone, Galaxy or Pixel reviews weeks or even months after
       | launch. Just look at Youtube, and impact on views from being
       | first with a review. Reviews that arrive weeks after a product
       | launch don't have mass-market appeal. AT either doesn't
       | understand the market, or is understaffed.
       | 
       | I get a thorough review can't come out on day one, but they need
       | to get something out. Maybe a first look with some opinions,
       | followed by a more thorough review a week later.
        
         | IanCutress wrote:
         | Simply understaffed. Since I've been full time, we've only ever
         | had two full time employees.
         | 
         | Also, Samsung doesn't sample AnandTech.
        
           | awill wrote:
           | Interesting. Is that because you caught them benchmark
           | cheating? :)
        
       | trynumber9 wrote:
       | Andrei, who did a lot of the measurements in their CPU reviews,
       | left a few months ago. Now with Ian gone it is likely the end of
       | Anandtech.
       | 
       | But I'm impressed it managed to make it past Anand's departure.
        
         | uluyol wrote:
         | They adapted after Anand and Brian Klug left, so hopefully they
         | can do it again.
        
       | Rafuino wrote:
       | Let's hope Tech Tech Potato continues!
        
       | bonyt wrote:
       | I wonder if he's going to LTT's labs venture?
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3-6BsWlPk
        
         | thereddaikon wrote:
         | That was my first thought. Linus has hinted heavily about
         | industry veterans applying. I wonder if Ian is one of them.
        
         | PragmaticPulp wrote:
         | Linus Tech Tips is all-in on the clickbait-centric style of
         | YouTube production that is the polar opposite of quality tech
         | journalism. They emphasize exaggerated reactions and silly
         | accidents over the thoughtful and well-prepared content that
         | Ian's writing is about. Some people love it (obvious from their
         | numbers) but I always feel like it's a waste of time to watch
         | his videos because it's 90% entertainment and maybe 10% useful
         | info. Entirely different audiences.
         | 
         | So I hope he's not joining them. It would be great if he formed
         | his own venture instead.
        
           | baybal2 wrote:
           | > Linus Tech Tips
           | 
           | The first thing I though before googling it up was that Linus
           | Torvalds got into youtubing.
        
           | CyberRage wrote:
           | Had to chime in after seeing this comment. LTT is definitely
           | a click-bait, simple and shallow channel but that's their
           | strength.
           | 
           | LTT wouldn't be as big if they did highly technical "boring"
           | analysis, they can be so big and influential because they are
           | light, layman-friendly almost at a stupid level.
           | 
           | Youtube is about attracting the crowd and let me tell you
           | something, the crowd isn't very smart for the most part.
        
             | bavell wrote:
             | On one hand I respect their success - what they do isn't
             | easy and they run a successful business. On the other hand,
             | I'm not at all impressed with their info-sparse, silly,
             | light-hearted approach to their content. I understand
             | there's demand for it in the market but it's a big turn-off
             | for me...
        
           | tomc1985 wrote:
           | You just described everything that is wrong and also most
           | profitable about Youtube culture
        
           | PolygonSheep wrote:
           | LTT Labs could end up being like BuzzFeed vs BuzzFeed News
           | where a site famous for its clickbait, inane quizzes, and
           | half-assed listicles started doing serious investigative
           | journalism.
           | 
           | If you told me ten years ago that BuzzFeed's news site would
           | end up winning many prestigious awards including a Pulitzer
           | Prize I would have thought you were joking.
        
             | azeirah wrote:
             | The interesting thing is that that was all planned from the
             | start.
             | 
             | I think it's a TED talk but I'm not entirely sure. Buzzfeed
             | was an MIT grad product to figure out how far they could go
             | with virality and virality alone. If the project proved
             | succesful, they'd invest in serious journalism.
             | 
             | It's all there in the video I don't have a link to!
        
             | JohnBooty wrote:
             | What an insightful point. I was thinking the worst, but
             | this gives me some hope.
        
           | bavell wrote:
           | Totally agreed. I've been following Anandtech since ~2008
           | along with other tech news but I've always had a very low
           | opinion of LTT. I've watched a few videos but they feel so
           | fake to the point of cringe. I'm definitely in their target
           | demo but they're way too childish for me to take them
           | seriously.
        
           | sockaddr wrote:
           | Disagree. His videos definitely have the click-baity look and
           | titles. But the content is usually pretty top notch even if
           | you need to ignore some silly parts of certain videos. I
           | think his channel pairs well with GamerNexus.
        
           | BoysenberryPi wrote:
           | I agree you about LTT to a certain point but I think you are
           | dragging them too much. LTT has done some very good tech
           | journalism in the past and brought some very important
           | stories to light. While I do not prefer them for my hardware
           | information for reasons you stated, I would not call them the
           | polar opposite of quality.
        
             | jolux wrote:
             | I don't know if this has changed but at some point I
             | stopped watching LTT because my own knowledge of computing
             | exceeded his (as far as I can tell) and I started noticing
             | trivial technical errors in a lot of the content he made,
             | delivered with unwarranted confidence. He's not an
             | engineer, he got his start demoing products for tech
             | retailers.
             | 
             | This is why I've long since preferred AnandTech to LTT.
             | They employ people like Cuttress, who has a respect for
             | scientific rigor and can go deep into the technological
             | weeds and actually report usefully from them, whereas I
             | feel LTT was limited mostly to surface-level observations
             | when I watched regularly.
        
               | ethbr0 wrote:
               | YouTube is HN taken to the extreme: nobody asks for
               | credentials if you present content with infinite
               | confidence.
        
             | PragmaticPulp wrote:
             | That's the 10% good info that I referred to.
             | 
             | If I drop into a random page of a random Ian Cutress
             | article, there's a high probability it will be interesting
             | and well thought-out content.
             | 
             | If I drop into a random LTT video and scroll to a random
             | timestamp, it's most likely going to be some minimal
             | content arbitrarily stretched past the 10 minute threshold
             | for YouTube monetization. I can usually find the answer to
             | the clickbait headline with enough seeking around, but many
             | of his videos contain so little actual content that it
             | could probably be summarized in a couple of Tweets. His
             | specialty is expanding it into 10+ minutes of overly
             | enthusiastic, slow-paced talking about it.
             | 
             | The information density is at polar opposites of the
             | spectrum, and that's by design. YouTube favors quantity and
             | clickbait, and it's no secret that Linus is playing that
             | game as aggressively as he can.
        
               | newsclues wrote:
               | Wow, entertaining content is orders of magnitude more
               | popular and profitable than in depth analysis.
               | 
               | Doesn't mean that entertainment doesn't benefit from
               | rigorous science and methodology.
        
               | freemint wrote:
               | Which LTT has been shown to be interested in producing,
               | buying cable testing equipment, using high speed cameras
               | for monitor analysis, ... and with LTT Labs those efforts
               | will likely increase.
        
               | thot_experiment wrote:
               | I mean very obviously you're comparing different media
               | aimed at different audiences but even so you're wrong,
               | there are plenty of LTT videos where they dive into their
               | methodology and provide explanations that are fairly in
               | depth. I think you should be blown away by the fact that
               | LTT manages to retain it's broad audience going as deep
               | as they do when it comes to stuff like testing thermals
               | under various conditions. I came into LTT thinking it was
               | clickbait trash but it's absolutely not, you have a long
               | way to go before you get to the "polar opposite of the
               | spectrum".
               | 
               | In any case people are suggesting Ian join LTT Labs, not
               | LTT.
        
             | willis936 wrote:
             | This is what annoys me most about LTT: they have nuggets of
             | value in most videos, but they're buried under a mountain
             | of optimized dirt.
             | 
             | It's cool to see them try a different format and hope they
             | succeed in bringing proper empirical-mindedness to the top
             | of the presentation.
        
           | user_7832 wrote:
           | I think you're quite misinformed about the situation.
           | 
           | Linus has literally said that he doesn't like the clickbait
           | himself but it's almost essential to get decent views thanks
           | to YouTube's algorithms. It's true that a lot of their work
           | is more surface-level compared to AnandTech but that's just
           | partly because a. You need a lot of talent that they might
           | not have had, and b. They actually ARE expanding in that
           | direction.
           | 
           | Side note: Tom Scott/Rohin Francis/Veritasium have also
           | started having more clickbaity video thumbnails. Do I blame
           | them? No, I blame YouTube. Don't forget, Linux has a huge
           | team he needs to pay and support.
        
           | Kye wrote:
           | Linus might be a showman, but I didn't see anything
           | inaccurate or uselessly shallow in the videos I watched. It's
           | not my style, but if the only complaint you have is
           | stylistic, it's not enough to dismiss the whole thing.
        
             | ivank wrote:
             | He has an entire video about cleaning keyboards that
             | consists of putting them in the dishwasher as a whole, PCB
             | included. There's no way that's ever a good idea because of
             | corrosion.
        
               | freemint wrote:
               | Yet the video shower that wasn't an issue and he gave
               | tips how to minimise corrosion anyway
        
               | Kye wrote:
               | This seems to be in agreement with what I said, but you
               | appear to have put it up as a counterexample. Showman
               | means entertainment. He's an entertainer. He _also_ seems
               | to be one of the rare entertainers who doesn 't fib for
               | greater entertainment value. The LTT labs thing linked
               | elsewhere suggests he cares about the technical side and,
               | like BuzzFeed News, wants to use entertainment to fund
               | more serious stuff.
               | 
               | I don't see a problem here. The keyboard thing sounds
               | entertaining, so I'll go check it out.
        
           | Philip-J-Fry wrote:
           | They do a lot of low effort clickbait stuff, but that pays
           | the bills for them to do higher quality journalism. They have
           | done plenty of high quality reviews of new tech.
           | 
           | Plus they have made a big investment into doing even more
           | advanced testing and reviewing. So I don't really agree that
           | they are "all-in". They do it because that's what makes
           | money, but Linus also wants his channel to be a place for
           | high quality journalism.
        
           | weaksauce wrote:
           | so was buzzfeed until they used that money to fund their
           | actual journalism.
        
           | mrweasel wrote:
           | People shouldn't fool themselves, Linus is running a
           | business, and the clickbait titles and thumbnails bring in
           | viewers. Linus even stated this in a video.
           | 
           | I do think his heart is in the right place and his team is
           | able to produce high quality, both in terms of the content
           | and the production. If LTT is serious about LTT Labs, then
           | they need someone like Ian Cutress, and LTT is one of the few
           | place that would be able make him a genuine offer.
        
             | joshstrange wrote:
             | Agreed, I get annoyed with the over-the-top-ness of many of
             | his videos, even the podcast, but overall they do a decent
             | job of covering things. Clickbait titles/thumbnails are
             | unfortunately table stakes on YT and while I hate it I
             | can't bring myself to hate the player. LTT is far from
             | perfect and I certainly don't agree with him on everything
             | but I'd rank his content over quite a few other channels.
        
         | awiesenhofer wrote:
         | If he does I hope they also start a website for long form
         | articles. Just watching short highlight clips of whats
         | happening in the world of chips instead of reading his
         | detailed, in-depth articles and interviews about these complex
         | topics would be hell.
         | 
         | Heck, even if they where hours long, some stuff is just better
         | suited to be read than watched.
        
           | apocalyptic0n3 wrote:
           | That is the plan. They're launching "LTT Labs" which will
           | focus on thoroughly testing products (I think they're aiming
           | to do what Steve at GamersNexus does) and moving toward
           | launching a written review and news site (I don't think he's
           | mentioned that name yet).
           | 
           | Given the level of respect he's shown Cuttress in the past
           | and the timing, combined with how excited he's been on WAN
           | Show about the person he was finalizing a deal to hire to
           | lead these efforts, there's probably a decent chance Cuttress
           | is the hire. That's all speculation at this point, though.
        
             | sharken wrote:
             | Only just hearing about LTT Labs now, but it sounds like a
             | great idea.
             | 
             | And i see no problem with LTT and their approach to
             | hardware, it is entertaining but make no mistake, that they
             | know what they are talking about.
             | 
             | But let's see what LTT is up to.
        
         | Macha wrote:
         | He's been testing the waters with going independent for the
         | last couple of years with his tech tech potato channel, and has
         | collabed a lot with Wendell of Level1Techs which is a similarly
         | sized channel, so I'd see it as more likely he's going to try
         | go full time independent. Though it is always possible his
         | experiences have convinced him the other way and he tries to
         | join up with someone now.
        
         | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
         | That was my first thought too. LTT has gotten really big and
         | Linus now has the money to pay for top editors and he's been
         | bantering with Dr. Cutress for a long time.
         | 
         | It's kinda sad to watch all the big name editorials I used to
         | read as a teenager like Anandtech and Toms Hardware lost their
         | spark and are withering away, and LTT is now becoming the tech
         | review juggernaut.
        
           | geerlingguy wrote:
           | The key question is the balance between advertising revenue
           | and editorial independence. LTT seems to be walking that
           | tightrope a lot more than some other outlets do, but IMO I'd
           | rather see someone like GN take up the mantle from
           | Anandtech... alas it seems like they often cater more towards
           | gaming/enthusiast PCs in their work and aren't as broad as an
           | LTT or Anandtech in their coverage.
           | 
           | I hope there will always be a place for Anandtech's and Tom's
           | Hardwares in this world, though. Text content with decent
           | illustrations can't be adequately replaced by video.
        
             | nisegami wrote:
             | >LTT seems to be walking that tightrope a lot more than
             | some other outlets do
             | 
             | LTT's sponsored content is clearly marked and for videos
             | with an ad read, the writing staff isn't informed what
             | companies will get a spot in the video while writing. Seems
             | like pretty solid editorial independence to me?
        
               | freemint wrote:
               | Which is also explains why the Segways are so off the
               | cuff.
        
             | wheybags wrote:
             | The problem is that GNs videos are often kinda long and
             | boring. If i just want to know what's going on, I will
             | watch an ltt video. I only watch GN videos when I'm making
             | a purchasing decision.
        
               | FullyFunctional wrote:
               | I've said that repeatedly; the contents is good but it's
               | needlessly repeated throughout the videos. I feel most of
               | Steves review could be presented in half the time without
               | loosing much. And to be frank, most of the time there is
               | just too much details.
        
             | xbmcuser wrote:
             | LTT just gets 1/3 of its revenue directly from sponsors
             | because of the success of its merch store now so it is
             | getting more editorial independence. Though you really
             | can't alienate the tech companies if you want access to
             | tech before news emargos etc.
        
               | Kranar wrote:
               | From the tweet linked below [1], which sparked a lot of
               | controversy about the definition of piracy (which I
               | entirely disagree with Linus on), about 65% of their
               | revenue comes directly from sponsors and 32% comes from
               | merchandise.
               | 
               | [1]
               | https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515
        
               | xbmcuser wrote:
               | Just 35% comes from direct sponsors ie in-video sponsor
               | and sponsored projects. Apart from these 2 none of the
               | other categories would effect editorial independence.
        
               | tacLog wrote:
               | > 65%
               | 
               | This just isn't what the tweet shows? Unless you are
               | counting AdSense as sponsors? That doesn't seems to make
               | sense.
               | 
               | You seem to be saying LTT is beholden to their sponsors?
               | There is always an argument to be made there but
               | misrepresenting: floatplane, AdSense and other sources
               | that I don't see how you can call sponsors, which make up
               | another 33% seems very disingenuous.
               | 
               | Unless I am misinformed about how AdSense works.
        
           | ksec wrote:
           | Yes. That was something I wanted to write in the 15 years of
           | HN thread but then decided to left it out. I was thinking if
           | there are any site that I have been visiting for more than 15
           | years. And Anantech is the only one. I stopped reading The
           | Register and Tomshardware a long time ago.
           | 
           | I dont mind LTT, the problem is just it is way too dumbed
           | down. It is part of the reason why Hardware discussions, even
           | on HN is pretty average to say the least.
           | 
           | May be people just dont like reading long and detail review
           | but instead only want short form video.
        
         | tristor wrote:
         | Echoing others, I don't really respect LTT. They are more
         | entertainment than information or any real attempt at tech
         | journalism. On the other hand, Ian would be a great addition to
         | a group like Gamer's Nexus, which is more focused on
         | objectively testing technology products and diving into how
         | they are engineered and what trade-offs are being made and why.
        
         | gigatexal wrote:
         | Ugh I hope not. Linus is an annoying click bait uploader. Ian
         | should go Indy.
        
           | willis936 wrote:
           | Ian makes regular yt uploads on his channel: TechTechPotato.
        
         | systemvoltage wrote:
         | LTT is an entertainment channel. Completely different than
         | Anandtech, by a long shot.
        
           | reggegg wrote:
           | Their "LTT Labs" venture is supposed to be a mainly written
           | research/testing articles
        
             | thereddaikon wrote:
             | Not just that but they want to do independent validation
             | work. They have dipped into it a little on the main channel
             | already with cable and display testing but it seems they
             | intend to go much further.
        
               | gtm1260 wrote:
               | Oh man I wonder how long till we get companies paying for
               | 'LTT Labs approved' on their products.
        
             | systemvoltage wrote:
             | I wish Linus good luck, but I have a suspicion that it
             | won't be like Anandtech. May be I am biased by the image of
             | Linus and his crowd. I watched the Labs pitch, and it is
             | _very_ gamer oriented.
             | 
             | I've been reading Anandtech for ~20 years. It has stayed
             | virtually the same [1]. Linus has turned his venture into a
             | giant media and entertainment house. I hope LTT labs is
             | completely different but it is hard to imagine it given
             | Linus' vision and business interests.
             | 
             | [1] This aspect is basically unheard of these days. Hard to
             | find anything that stayed the same ~20 years, they refined
             | their vision instead of slowly destroying it.
        
         | schnebbau wrote:
         | Lots of people replying to this comment without actually
         | watching the video or understanding what LTT Labs is.
         | 
         | LTT Labs is their attempt at producing more investigative and
         | informative content that is less rooted in entertainment like
         | their main channels are.
        
       | ribit wrote:
       | Anandtech has been one of my primary sources for quality tech
       | journalism and unbiased reviews, mostly thanks to the works of
       | Ian and Andrei. In the industry where folks report the TDP as
       | actual power consumption these guys were true beacons of
       | knowledge. Their articles will be sorely missed.
        
       | PragmaticPulp wrote:
       | Sad to see him go, although not entirely surprising. The site has
       | had minimal updates and very few interesting articles for a
       | while.
       | 
       | Ian's articles were fantastic every time they came out, though.
       | Hopefully his next venture allows him to continue doing the same
       | work in another venue.
        
         | wronglebowski wrote:
         | Seconded, they seem to be getting less press samples or have
         | less manpower to write articles. I don't even think there's
         | more than two or three people working there anymore.
        
       | geerlingguy wrote:
       | FYI Ian has his own YouTube channel:
       | https://youtube.com/c/TechTechPotato
        
       | Katydid wrote:
       | Cheers to the best in the business, here's wishing Ian incredible
       | success. Thanks for so much great reporting and analysis over the
       | years. Few understand how challenging such a job is, having your
       | daily work product (which has to balance technical depth and
       | reader appeal) on stage for the world to grill, year in and out.
       | Ian nailed it with depth, energy, and humor. Can't wait to see
       | what's next from the good Dr. Cutress. - N
        
       | aucontraire wrote:
       | Where should one go now to get gory details in layman terms of
       | new CPU:s?
       | 
       | Ian is my favourite CPU journalist. That insistence on reminding
       | everyone, all the time, that he has a doctorate is seriously
       | awkward, though.
        
         | bobbob1921 wrote:
         | STH (serveTheHome.com)
         | 
         | LOVE that site..(and it's forums, and Patrick)
        
         | CoastalCoder wrote:
         | The "Gary Explains" channel on YouTube is pretty good imo.
         | 
         | Not 100% the same topics, but still informative.
        
         | leetcrew wrote:
         | imo Steve at gamers nexus is the best substitute for the
         | objective, thorough coverage I used to get from anandtech. he
         | doesn't always dive quite as deep, but his coverage is very
         | prompt. his coverage is also a bit more consumer focused, so
         | you do miss some enterprise/DC hardware coverage that anandtech
         | might eventually get around to publishing. on the other hand,
         | he does some really good reviews on stuff like cases and
         | cooling that anandtech doesn't seem to have time for.
        
         | ksec wrote:
         | >That insistence on reminding everyone, all the time, that he
         | has a doctorate is seriously awkward, though.
         | 
         | He didn't even use it until fairly recently. In the past 3-4
         | years? I think he had his doctorate even before he joined
         | Anandtech. He only started using it because people were asking
         | him why he didn't put his Dr. in his title.
         | 
         | And it means a lot in different context. Basically it could be
         | used as the biggest middle finger to marketing and PR
         | department to STFU and get a proper engineer to talk to me.
         | Especially in the context of foundry where his research was on
         | Electrochemistry.
        
           | IanCutress wrote:
           | I'd add that aside from my byline on AT, the only other
           | places I have the Dr. is on Twitter, and on my business card.
           | Everyone else introduces me that way. If they ask how to
           | introduce me, I say whatever works best.
           | 
           | For some reason people equate this to me shoving it down
           | their throats. There was a big reddit thread about it
           | recently.
        
             | paulmd wrote:
             | > If they ask how to introduce me, I say whatever works
             | best. For some reason people equate this to me shoving it
             | down their throats.
             | 
             | I don't know about "strong opinions in _both directions_ "
             | (I don't think I've ever met someone who felt strongly that
             | an academic doctorate title should never be mentioned?) but
             | there are certainly some people who are serious about
             | "ring-knocking" and will get super offended if you _don 't_
             | say it, and given the 'do whatever' instruction, people may
             | be defaulting to putting it in, just in case. Perhaps,
             | again, not even out of fear you'll jump on them, as much as
             | someone else might.
             | 
             | In other words, it might not be you so much as the other
             | assholes.
        
             | apurtbapurt wrote:
             | As a fan and random stranger from the Internet, your
             | Anandtech byline and twitter handle are how your public
             | persona introduces himself to me several times per months
             | over the course of multiple years.
             | 
             | Your actual person I of course know nothing about and pass
             | neither judgement nor praise for. That is none of my
             | business!
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | It's something about which some people have very strong
             | opinions in both directions. I do not have a strong opinion
             | personally.
        
             | wilsonjholmes wrote:
             | Might be a little bit of a rediculous request, but do you
             | have an image of your buisness card? I have begun to create
             | my own, and I am wondering what others' in tech look like.
        
               | IanCutress wrote:
               | My advice is to put your head shot on it. I have on mine.
               | Going to events and getting 100 business cards and not
               | remembering what people look like - but they all know
               | what I look like.
        
         | nazgulsenpai wrote:
         | His YouTube channel is quite good
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/techtechpotato
        
         | M277 wrote:
         | There's Chips and Cheese[0], but not sure if "layman terms" is
         | accurate. They're really great, though.
         | 
         | [0]: https://chipsandcheese.com/
        
       ___________________________________________________________________
       (page generated 2022-02-18 23:00 UTC)