[HN Gopher] Show HN: Wordle over DNS ___________________________________________________________________ Show HN: Wordle over DNS Author : dgl Score : 145 points Date : 2022-02-19 12:38 UTC (10 hours ago) (HTM) web link (dgl.cx) (TXT) w3m dump (dgl.cx) | kseistrup wrote: | I really like the idea of wordle-over-dns. | | I wish all wordle authors would use words with 5 unique letters | and singular nouns or infinitive verbs, though. | dgl wrote: | Wordle itself doesn't use 5 unique letters though. | | Some of the words I've picked are a bit tricky, it's trickier | than you think picking words! | kseistrup wrote: | I know the original Wordle also don't use 5 unique letters, | that's why I wrote "all wordle authors" so you wouldn't feel | singled out. | | I chose words for a Danish wordle, and distilled 64k | dictionary words down to around 3k. | furyofantares wrote: | I see where you're coming from on 5 unique letters but have a | strong preference the other way. The possibility of double | letters adds a lot of interest to the game for me. But I can | see how someone would find it annoying too. | | I'm curious about the singular nouns or infinitive verbs | suggestion though. What's the thinking there? Also to be clear, | are you advocating for no adjectives/adverbs, or are you just | restricting which nouns/verbs are allowed and allowing other | types of word to be unrestricted? | ghaff wrote: | The thinking is probably that if you allow plurals and | certain other verb forms to any significant degree you | probably end up with a disproportionate number of trailing | "S" letters--which would be less interesting. | | The combination of five letters, the rules, and the number of | guesses seem to calibrate the difficulty pretty well for me. | Given enough time, I could probably solve most words | eventually with just my brain. (In practice, I sometimes go | to a dictionary program that's not wordle specific to tickle | my brain once I know what I'm probably looking for. | furyofantares wrote: | > The thinking is probably that if you allow plurals and | certain other verb forms to any significant degree you | probably end up with a disproportionate number of trailing | "S" letters--which would be less interesting. | | There's no reason it has to be noticeably disproportionate, | the clues are curated and not just picked randomly from the | list of words that are legal to guess. | | I guess I'm also curious if the suggestion is that all | these words are illegal to guess or just not used as clues? | ghaff wrote: | It appears as if there are plurals in the words you can | use to guess. I just tried PILLS and it worked. I have | not yet run across a plural as the answer but I haven't | looked at the word list. | sprobertson wrote: | 1.6% of possible answers end with "s" but none of those | are plural. 30.5% of allowed guesses end in "s" however. | kseistrup wrote: | The reason for the restriction is that you make a near | endless amount of words by allowing plural, past, future, | genitive (at least in Danish, that doesn't take apostrophe in | the genitive) et cetera. I'm unsure how I would restrict | adjectives/adverbs, but the idea is that the words should | exist as main entries in a dictionary. | | Here's where I come from: | | Decades ago I learned to play a word game which was more like | MasterMind than Wordle, and it could be played with just pen | and paper (later I have played it over sms, and over gratis | bank transfers): | | Each participant writes down a secret 5-letter word (unique | letters, singular nouns, no verbs) and take turns to guess | the oppponent's word. The only clue you get for each guess, | is how many correct letters your guess has. You do not get to | know which letters are correct, if any, nor if they are | correctly placed. It's a bit more challenging than Wordle, | something that justifies the restrictions, but even with | Wordle I think it's reasonable to use just the "root | dictionary words", if I may call them so. | ReaLNero wrote: | The different forms of the word are really just a constant | factor. Moreover, not all endings have the same number of | letters, so it's easy to distinguish between e.g. eat vs | eaten vs ate. | pgl wrote: | This is going straight on my list: | https://twitter.com/pgl/status/1405614755000295427 | AviationAtom wrote: | Now we know why it's always DNS breaking /s | somtoxhi wrote: | What's a good resource to gain more-indepth knowledge on DNS? | pwdisswordfish9 wrote: | Awaiting the inevitable Wordle in CoffeeScript in pure CSS on the | blockchain as a Service. | Helloyello wrote: | garaetjjte wrote: | It would be better if it just represented replies as ASCII chars | to avoid perl postprocessing. Most terminals probably doesn't | display colored emoji anyway. | omnicognate wrote: | Neat. I thought for a moment it was just a script embedded in a | TXT record, but you do communicate over DNS with a server-side | implementation of the game. The perl bit is just to unescape the | response. | | It uses a custom DNS server that returns the result as a TXT | record for the domain <your guess>.wd.ip.wtf. You don't need to | point directly at that server as it's registered as the | nameserver for that domain. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-02-19 23:00 UTC)