[HN Gopher] Show HN: Wordle over DNS
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       Show HN: Wordle over DNS
        
       Author : dgl
       Score  : 145 points
       Date   : 2022-02-19 12:38 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | kseistrup wrote:
       | I really like the idea of wordle-over-dns.
       | 
       | I wish all wordle authors would use words with 5 unique letters
       | and singular nouns or infinitive verbs, though.
        
         | dgl wrote:
         | Wordle itself doesn't use 5 unique letters though.
         | 
         | Some of the words I've picked are a bit tricky, it's trickier
         | than you think picking words!
        
           | kseistrup wrote:
           | I know the original Wordle also don't use 5 unique letters,
           | that's why I wrote "all wordle authors" so you wouldn't feel
           | singled out.
           | 
           | I chose words for a Danish wordle, and distilled 64k
           | dictionary words down to around 3k.
        
         | furyofantares wrote:
         | I see where you're coming from on 5 unique letters but have a
         | strong preference the other way. The possibility of double
         | letters adds a lot of interest to the game for me. But I can
         | see how someone would find it annoying too.
         | 
         | I'm curious about the singular nouns or infinitive verbs
         | suggestion though. What's the thinking there? Also to be clear,
         | are you advocating for no adjectives/adverbs, or are you just
         | restricting which nouns/verbs are allowed and allowing other
         | types of word to be unrestricted?
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | The thinking is probably that if you allow plurals and
           | certain other verb forms to any significant degree you
           | probably end up with a disproportionate number of trailing
           | "S" letters--which would be less interesting.
           | 
           | The combination of five letters, the rules, and the number of
           | guesses seem to calibrate the difficulty pretty well for me.
           | Given enough time, I could probably solve most words
           | eventually with just my brain. (In practice, I sometimes go
           | to a dictionary program that's not wordle specific to tickle
           | my brain once I know what I'm probably looking for.
        
             | furyofantares wrote:
             | > The thinking is probably that if you allow plurals and
             | certain other verb forms to any significant degree you
             | probably end up with a disproportionate number of trailing
             | "S" letters--which would be less interesting.
             | 
             | There's no reason it has to be noticeably disproportionate,
             | the clues are curated and not just picked randomly from the
             | list of words that are legal to guess.
             | 
             | I guess I'm also curious if the suggestion is that all
             | these words are illegal to guess or just not used as clues?
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | It appears as if there are plurals in the words you can
               | use to guess. I just tried PILLS and it worked. I have
               | not yet run across a plural as the answer but I haven't
               | looked at the word list.
        
               | sprobertson wrote:
               | 1.6% of possible answers end with "s" but none of those
               | are plural. 30.5% of allowed guesses end in "s" however.
        
           | kseistrup wrote:
           | The reason for the restriction is that you make a near
           | endless amount of words by allowing plural, past, future,
           | genitive (at least in Danish, that doesn't take apostrophe in
           | the genitive) et cetera. I'm unsure how I would restrict
           | adjectives/adverbs, but the idea is that the words should
           | exist as main entries in a dictionary.
           | 
           | Here's where I come from:
           | 
           | Decades ago I learned to play a word game which was more like
           | MasterMind than Wordle, and it could be played with just pen
           | and paper (later I have played it over sms, and over gratis
           | bank transfers):
           | 
           | Each participant writes down a secret 5-letter word (unique
           | letters, singular nouns, no verbs) and take turns to guess
           | the oppponent's word. The only clue you get for each guess,
           | is how many correct letters your guess has. You do not get to
           | know which letters are correct, if any, nor if they are
           | correctly placed. It's a bit more challenging than Wordle,
           | something that justifies the restrictions, but even with
           | Wordle I think it's reasonable to use just the "root
           | dictionary words", if I may call them so.
        
             | ReaLNero wrote:
             | The different forms of the word are really just a constant
             | factor. Moreover, not all endings have the same number of
             | letters, so it's easy to distinguish between e.g. eat vs
             | eaten vs ate.
        
       | pgl wrote:
       | This is going straight on my list:
       | https://twitter.com/pgl/status/1405614755000295427
        
         | AviationAtom wrote:
         | Now we know why it's always DNS breaking /s
        
       | somtoxhi wrote:
       | What's a good resource to gain more-indepth knowledge on DNS?
        
       | pwdisswordfish9 wrote:
       | Awaiting the inevitable Wordle in CoffeeScript in pure CSS on the
       | blockchain as a Service.
        
       | Helloyello wrote:
        
       | garaetjjte wrote:
       | It would be better if it just represented replies as ASCII chars
       | to avoid perl postprocessing. Most terminals probably doesn't
       | display colored emoji anyway.
        
       | omnicognate wrote:
       | Neat. I thought for a moment it was just a script embedded in a
       | TXT record, but you do communicate over DNS with a server-side
       | implementation of the game. The perl bit is just to unescape the
       | response.
       | 
       | It uses a custom DNS server that returns the result as a TXT
       | record for the domain <your guess>.wd.ip.wtf. You don't need to
       | point directly at that server as it's registered as the
       | nameserver for that domain.
        
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