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       Newcomer's Welcome Package: Thule Air Base, Greenland [pdf]
        
       Author : troydavis
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2022-02-20 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | troydavis wrote:
       | Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdU2z4cDJdk
        
       | COGlory wrote:
       | I've come to love cold, dry, desolate places. (Such as Montana).
       | The downsides aren't nearly what people make them out to be, and
       | the upsides are amazing. Cold really isn't that bad, and winter
       | hobbies are a lot of fun.
        
         | tonyarkles wrote:
         | I'm sitting here in rural Saskatchewan right now, absolutely
         | loving life. We got this property dirt cheap ($1 for the lot,
         | $300 in gas to move a free mobile home to the lot, ~$4000 to
         | trench water and gas). Until last week, the only downside was
         | the lack of decent Internet for being able to work from out
         | here, but... thank you Starlink! Last week we went from
         | tethering to a distance tower, to 250Mbit downlink measured
         | this morning.
        
       | phkamp wrote:
       | All that info and not a single word about hydrogen bombs ?
        
         | lkramer wrote:
         | Probably need a higher clearance to be reminded of that
         | embarrassing little story.
         | 
         | But I admit, I was looking for it as well:)
        
       | joshvm wrote:
       | Interesting, it reads a lot like the USAP participant [0] and
       | field manuals [1]:
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://www.usap.gov/USAPgov/travelAndDeployment/documents/P...
       | 
       | [1] https://www.eol.ucar.edu/system/files/usap-field-manual.pdf
       | 
       | You can also find guides for Summit Station (a US/Greenland
       | research base) https://geo-summit.org/documents; in fact most of
       | these bases have publicly available guides and it's fun comparing
       | what facilities are available compared to what you have at your
       | own base. I remember watching the Australian WIFFA [2] movie this
       | year and thinking that damn, these guys have a _brewery_? Sadly
       | it turns out that got banned this year [3].
       | 
       | Though somewhat funny that it recommends finding an interesting
       | rock to make a belt buckle or gift, that's an absolute no-no in
       | Antaractica.
       | 
       | [2] https://www.wiffa.aq
       | 
       | [3] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-28/antarctica-alcohol-
       | cr...
        
         | bacon_waffle wrote:
         | I'm surprised to see the winter film festival films posted out
         | in the open - my recollection (from 2014 winter, hi!) was that
         | those weren't supposed to be shared off-Ice. People are shy,
         | unsanctioned stuff goes in to the films, authorities often
         | don't take criticism well...
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | I have a friend that was stationed there, in the 1970s, or so.
       | 
       | He said that a favorite prank on newcomers, was to completely
       | mess with their circadian rhythm, by waking them up at random
       | times, and telling them it was time to go on duty.
        
       | droro wrote:
       | Last week I watched an old Nova episode[0] about a harrowing
       | attempt to restore a B-29 that had been abandoned 50 years prior
       | a few hundred miles outside Thule. It turns out that Greenland is
       | a difficult place to do basic things, let alone repair a massive
       | decaying old warbird.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.pbs.org/video/nova-b-29-frozen-in-time/
        
       | Cupertino95014 wrote:
       | When I was in Iceland, I considered a side trip to Greenland,
       | just because no one I knew had _ever_ been there.
       | 
       | I thought better of it when I realized it's a 3-hour flight from
       | Reykjavik, and very, very little tourist infrastructure.
       | 
       | But I'd love to go to Thule. I bet you could give a talk on
       | practically ANY topic, and everyone would show up! What else is
       | there to do?
        
         | Cupertino95014 wrote:
         | (although on pp. 18-21, I see that maybe everyone would be way
         | too busy with all those activities.)
        
       | robinhoodexe wrote:
       | >While at Thule, it's recommended that you walk on the left side
       | of the road facing oncoming traffic. Although contrary to
       | stateside standards, this will enable you to watch for vehicles
       | and to get out of the way should they not see you.
       | 
       | I have always found this to make extremely good sense, but I see
       | quite few doing it besides me.
        
         | nosianu wrote:
         | As a German, I learned this as a rule. Outside of towns when
         | there is no sidewalk, always walk on the left side, against
         | oncoming traffic.
         | 
         | From the StVO, the law, the road traffic regulations, SS25
         | section 1, first paragraph (German):
         | https://www.stvo.de/strassenverkehrsordnung/108-25-fussgaeng...
         | 
         | > _ausserhalb geschlossener Ortschaften muss am linken
         | Fahrbahnrand gegangen werden_
         | 
         | "Outside of towns pedestrians have to walk on the left side"
         | 
         | Just an aside, while looking at that website, the banner image
         | at the top looks clearly seems to be of an American road. On a
         | German website about German road laws.
        
         | bouchard wrote:
         | I'm pretty sure that's what is recommended here in Quebec,
         | Canada when there's no sidewalk.
         | 
         | Seems weird that it wouldn't also be the case in the US.
        
           | Rebelgecko wrote:
           | It's what I was taught in the US as well, if you're on foot
           | you should be going opposite traffic
        
           | Jtsummers wrote:
           | It is the case in the US (or has been since I was a child in
           | the 80s) so I find the quote weird. You are supposed to walk
           | opposite traffic for the reason described. It is standard
           | guidance every I have lived (a large chunk of the US).
        
             | ImprovedSilence wrote:
             | Yeah, in the US I learned walk/run opposing traffic, and
             | ride your bike with traffic.
        
             | wk_end wrote:
             | FWIW - growing up in Ontario, Canada I was always told to
             | walk in the direction of traffic. It seemed odd to me to
             | turn my back to danger, but that's what they taught us.
        
               | Ekaros wrote:
               | In Finland it depends, with sidewalk and in populated
               | areas the normal right side traffic is to be followed. At
               | highways it is recommended to use left side specially
               | during dark.
        
         | alksjdalkj wrote:
         | I grew up in the states and was always taught to walk against
         | traffic. Not sure where they're teaching people the opposite.
        
           | aaaaaaaaata wrote:
           | Places where people think being right/having the right of way
           | triumphs being alive.
        
           | core-utility wrote:
           | FWIW, I knew a guy who was riding his bicycle on the
           | sidewalk, technically going the "wrong" direction. He crossed
           | a commercial business park driveway and got hit by a car who
           | didn't see him, and got a lot of hassle from insurance
           | because he was going the "wrong" way for that side of the
           | street.
           | 
           | Looking back, that may have been the insurance company
           | looking to skirt responsibility.
        
             | throwthere wrote:
             | I think they're talking about walking. Riding a bike is
             | different-- for one, it's illegal in a lot of places to
             | ride on the sidewalk in a business district. For another,
             | the transfer of momentum is appreciably less in a same-
             | direction collision between a car/bike compared to head-on.
        
       | jkaptur wrote:
       | The sly humor really makes this document readable. I love the
       | list of what the base does NOT have, including "spiders or
       | snakes!"
        
       | samatman wrote:
       | A rare opportunity to indulge a question I've harboured for some
       | time: how do the servicemembers assigned to Thule Air Base
       | pronounce it?
       | 
       | I was educated by Anthroposophists so when I read that noun my
       | inner voice pronounces it, er, Bavarian. I've never had a chance
       | to ask someone who would know how USAF says it, but I'd guess it
       | isn't that.
        
         | troydavis wrote:
         | "Too-lee" (https://www.peterson.spaceforce.mil/Thule-AB-
         | Greenland/).
        
         | ineedasername wrote:
         | A family member that was in the USAF talks about this base* and
         | pronounces it _/ 'tuli/_ (like "duly" in _" duly noted"_.)
         | 
         | *Also that getting posted there was idiomatic for pissing off
         | the wrong person. As in, "Don't piss them off or you'll end up
         | in Thule Greenland". It wasn't considered a desirable posting,
         | at least not by many. Enough so that it provided what these
         | days is called "assignment incentive pay".
        
           | vba616 wrote:
           | >pronounces it /'tuli/
           | 
           | https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/50967/20-towns-named-
           | oth...
        
       | newsclues wrote:
       | Just hear about the big crater nearby!
       | 
       | https://www.science.org/content/article/massive-crater-under...
        
       | malkia wrote:
       | From the pdf, page 3 at the bottom:
       | 
       | "Simply put, Thule exists today in order to support the operation
       | of the solid-state phased-array radar located at the Ballistic
       | Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS), Site I. The BMEWS site is
       | located approximately 11 miles northwest of the main base.
       | 
       | It provides early warning detection of intercontinental ballistic
       | missile (ICBM) launches from the Russian land mass and submarine-
       | launched ballistic missile (SLBM) launches from the North
       | Atlantic and Arctic Oceans against North America. Additionally,
       | BMEWS keeps track of polar orbiting satellites. "
        
         | na85 wrote:
         | It also serves as a convenient staging point for Operation
         | Boxtop, the resupply of Eureka and Alert.
         | 
         | Alert in particular plays a very important role, and the
         | intelligence it collects is vital.
        
           | malkia wrote:
           | Thanks! I wasn't aware, and not sure why kept on reading that
           | pdf... I've actually did not know what donning and doffing
           | means (it was about donning and doffing your arctic gear),
           | and with this pandemic I should've known, but found quick
           | video on youtube about it
           | -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzwH7d4Ags
        
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