[HN Gopher] Zain Nadella, Satya Nadella's son, dies at 26 ___________________________________________________________________ Zain Nadella, Satya Nadella's son, dies at 26 Author : softwarebeware Score : 250 points Date : 2022-03-01 17:29 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.ibtimes.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.ibtimes.com) | [deleted] | nojonestownpls wrote: | My heart goes out to the Nadella family. | | I would suggest either of these two as a better link for this: | | https://www.ibtimes.com/zain-nadella-microsoft-ceo-satya-nad... | | https://www.geekwire.com/2022/zain-nadella-1996-2022-microso... | | The Yahoo! article is both lazily written and lazily edited | ("Microsoft says ..." is an unnecessary and unfortunate title | prefix, for news of this kind.) | dang wrote: | Ok, changed from https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-says- | son-ceo-satya-.... Thanks. | jimbob45 wrote: | It seems like the unspoken implication is that the umbilical cord | wrapped around the baby's neck, resulting in in-utero | asphyxiation? However, the baby was born weighing only three | pounds, which would seem to signify something else wrong prior to | the asphyxiation, no? | maronato wrote: | My understanding is that the baby was prematurely removed | because of the asphyxiation | __s wrote: | My sister had a knot in her umbilical cord. She ended up coming | out alright, but started out very thin. The cord is cut off | from adequately feeding the fetus | [deleted] | lukewrites wrote: | Deepest sympathy for the Nadella family as they grieve the loss | of their son. | agumonkey wrote: | courage to him and his family | hemloc_io wrote: | Having had to deal with this personally it's on of the hardest | things to go through. | | Best wishes to them and their family. :( | myth_drannon wrote: | March is National Cerebral Palsy Awareness Month. | pjbeam wrote: | One of my biggest hopes is to be survived by all of my children. | I can't imagine what it's like to bury your child. All the best | to the Nadellas :/ | san_dimitri wrote: | I think the accepted term for a parent who lost their child is | Vilomah. | | https://dying.lovetoknow.com/ideas-advice-coping-grief/vilom... | rodgerd wrote: | When Malaysia Airlines 17 was shot down by Russia, a local part | of the story was a couple whose three children were all on the | flight. | | How do you even go on after that? | adamredwoods wrote: | Some people turn to religion, others try to find a purpose | for it (cause or charity, see Sandy Hook Promise[1]), and | sometimes others don't find a way to go on. | | [1] https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/who-we-are/about-us/ | crescentfresh wrote: | > One of my biggest hopes | | Nice way to flip "my greatest fear" | a4isms wrote: | There is a story about this: | | _An emperor commissioned a work from the greatest calligrapher | in the nation. "Make me something auspicious!" was the brief. | The calligrapher thought for a moment, then wrote on a banner:_ | | _Parents die. Emperor dies. Children die._ | | _The emperor was outraged. "How is this auspicious? It speaks | only of death!" The calligrapher was serene. "Emperor, there is | nothing more auspicious than for your deaths to occur in the | natural order. Would you have wanted to die before your | parents? Would you want your children to die before you?_ | myth_drannon wrote: | Because it is so traumatic, many languages don't have a word | for a parent who lost a child. You have Orphans, Widows... | stocknoob wrote: | I think, unfortunately, it was so common as to not be | notable. People had way more kids, and there was much more | infant mortality. Still tragic of course. | mmcdermott wrote: | > I think, unfortunately, it was so common as to not be | notable. People had way more kids, and there was much more | infant mortality. Still tragic of course. | | More common, perhaps, but I'm not so sure about the not | notable part. There are plenty of examples of great grief | surrounding the loss of a child. An example that comes to | mind from my recent reading is Dostoevsky and "The Brothers | Karamazov." The author was experiencing grief from the loss | of a 3 year old son and the book rings with it. | | However much the past is a different country, it is still | populated by humans, same as any today. | syrrim wrote: | The lack of word suggests the opposite, that it was extremely | common. Indeed, historically, nearly everyone would have lost | a young child, and many people would have lost an older | child. | spockz wrote: | The fact that it was common doesn't make it less traumatic. | giantg2 wrote: | Everything is relative and our expectations are set by | society and what is common. Today, losing a child is | pretty uncommon. 3-4 generations ago if was very common. | You expected to have 4-10 children and to lose one or | two. It wouldn't be a pleasant experience, but I think | it's incorrect to say it wasn't less traumatic (you | expected it, you lost a lower percentage, etc). To quote | Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Torino, "You're geared | for it". | robertlagrant wrote: | You're missing the point - check out the parent of the | comment you're replying to. | _rutinerad wrote: | And no one suggested that it does. | washadjeffmad wrote: | It wasn't long ago that children commonly weren't named until | they survived two years. | | Bureaucratic dehumanization is responsible for reinforcing | traumas that cultures had already built ways of dealing with. | My grandparents' generation reused the names of their | children who didn't survive, but today, few couples would | consider that with any name they were forced to write on both | a birth and death certificate. | Beltalowda wrote: | That's from Six Feet Under, no? | | There's some good poetic value in it, but I don't know if | it's actually true. It has more to do with the effect it has | for someone's "normal" life cycle, which is why orphan is | only applied to children and not adults. And as the sibling | comment mentions, it was pretty common in a family of ~5-10 | to have at least one child die. | [deleted] | bregma wrote: | Up until the English language stopped evolving so rapidly, | the word for that was "normal". | spoonjim wrote: | For severely disabled children most parents hope to outlive | their kids because they know that nobody will give them a | parent's love when they are gone, even with Satya Nadella-level | money. There have been some (tragic? bittersweet? I don't know) | cases where an aging parent of a disabled child kills the child | and then kills themselves to ensure that their kid doesn't get | institutionalized after they're gone. | schnevets wrote: | > Satya, who took over the role of CEO in 2014, had been working | on designing products to better serve users with disabilities. He | said he had been using lessons he learned while raising and | supporting Zain. | | Within the video games space, Microsoft and Sony have had an | intriguing "arms race" related to accessibility across their | platform. I can only assume Zain's condition was a motivating | factor for Nadella. | spoonjim wrote: | Satya shared some information about Zain's story about 5 years | ago: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/moment-forever-changed-our- | li... | hit8run wrote: | This is so sad... Love to everyone that has lost someone. | hrvach wrote: | There is nothing in this world more difficult and heartbreaking | than losing a child and I pray to God nobody has to go through | this. Deepest sympathies for the entire family. | rubyist5eva wrote: | This is just heart wrenching, no parent should ever have to bury | their children. | tombert wrote: | I'm really lucky to where most of the people that I care a lot | about are still alive, but I realize that that's a finite luxury. | Sooner or later either I or one of those people are going to die, | and it's going to be sad. | | I think I'm gonna call my mom. | seanmcdirmid wrote: | I've lost both of my parents already (I'm 46), but if I ever | lost my son I couldn't take it. Reading about anyone losing | their kids is painful since I became a parent myself. | itake wrote: | dads need love too! | godelmachine wrote: | My mom is being treated for resistant schizophrenia and she's | in a rehab. I get to talk with her only when the Counsellor is | on duty. | | When I visited my mom last month, she was complaining she | doesn't like 8 people ward coz of zero privacy and the need to | share washrooms. She's been brought up as a princess and was | highly pampered, being everyone's favorite, and finds it tough | staying in such accommodations. She told me she wanted a single | room to herself. I told her it's not good staying alone, we | will get you into a double occupancy room, so there's someone | in the room in case something untoward happens. | | Today, she called me via the Counsellor today after a week, and | the call got disconnected in about a few seconds coz of bad | network. | | I later called up the hospital but the Counsellor had left. | However, I had her shifted from an 8 people ward to a 4 people | ward today. It's because the rehab administrator advised that | we have 4 people ward as well if you wanna consider. I said ask | mom and see what she like - 4 sharing or 2 sharing. The admin | called up 10 min and said your mom was okay with 4 sharing, and | we have moved her there. | | Tomorrow, I will call her to ensure she's comfortable in 4 | sharing and if she does not like, next month I move her to 2 | sharing. | | Just a random post reading your comment. | bufordtwain wrote: | You definitely should. My mom was in a bad car accident some | years ago and barely survived. Since that time I call her twice | a week without fail. At this point I feel much more at peace | with whatever happens. | rootusrootus wrote: | Much of my adult life was the same way. We used to talk about | how great our family had it -- we went for decades without | losing anyone close. We knew eventually our turn would come, | but I treasured the time we did have. | | But come it did, about 7 years ago. Since then I've lost two | brothers, my dad, my grandparents, and my best friend. The | trite "fuck cancer" statement comes to mind regularly. Another | friend of mine has cancer, my mom has terminal cancer, my | stepmother has cancer... | | > I think I'm gonna call my mom. | | Always a good plan, I highly recommend it. I think I will do | the same. Treasure your loved ones, even when times are good it | can change suddenly. | wnolens wrote: | The same has happened to me. It's been almost every 1-2 years | for the past 10 that I experience another great loss. Most | recently was my mother. That one was/still is tough. | adamredwoods wrote: | I've also lost several loved ones from cancer. Stopping the | metastatic progression is key to survival, but wow do | cancerous cells ever know how to survive. We need to win | this. | fghorow wrote: | As the Dad of a preemie, our only child who died at age 25, my | heart goes out to the Nadella family. | | It would not surprise me in the least if Nadella steps down as | CEO sooner rather than later. The trauma is that large. | pnathan wrote: | Condolences to Mr. Nadella & family. | | When my son was born, he had experienced symmetric intra-uterine | growth restriction; something that seems like Zain Nadella | experienced as well. It was clear looking at the photos in the | NICU and meeting different parents, that some things come for us | all, rich and poor. | kizer wrote: | Wow. I'm so, so sorry for Satya and his family. Zain seems like | he was a beautiful person. What an absolute titan of a father, | who not only has achieved incredible success, but who also made | sure to share proudly with the world of technology all the | lessons he learned about accessibility from Zain and the | perspective of the disabled. Zain and Satya, you've made such an | impact. God bless you. | polysaturate wrote: | Honest question...what specifically about Cerebral palsy would | cause death at an early age (27 is early to die in modern times, | IMHO)? | myth_drannon wrote: | Too many to list. But by the photos of it looks like it was | severe, when the body is not able to move you get all kinds of | chronic diseases. I think I read somewhere that pneumonia is | number one because of the difficulty of eating and drinking and | the food or liquids constantly get into the lungs. | cardine wrote: | My older brother (currently 31) has severe cerebral palsy - | very similar to what Zain had. | | He has been healthy recently, but there have been many close | calls. He has frequent seizures and many normally routine | things can be life threatening. Others have mentioned things | like pneumonia. | | He requires 24/7 medical attention, including a nurse who stays | with him every night in case, among other things, his seizures | get out of control. Thankfully for him, my mom is a nurse and | we are fortunate that health insurance covers a very large | amount of his medically necessary care. | chemeng wrote: | Depends on the severity of the condition, but if swallow is | affected I believe aspiration, pneumonia, choking, are causes | of premature death for CP. | johntiger1 wrote: | it sucks but when the underlying condition is so severe, | something trivial/mundane and preventable in a healthy person | is usually cause of death | HideousKojima wrote: | Can't speak to palsy but I had a friend with muscular dystrophy | who passed in his late 20's. He couldn't swallow his own spit, | and every 10 minutes or so I (or his attending nurse, or | whoever he was spending time with) would need to help him drain | it. He had the same sort of little vacuum that your dentist | uses to get water out of your mouth during a cleaning or | filling. I moved out of my hometown a few years before he | passed so I don't know all the details, but I'm pretty sure his | death had to do with respitory issues caused by his weakened | muscles. | trhway wrote: | speaking as total layman wrt. medicine, i wonder whether it | is possible to at least improve the condition a bit by | implanting electrodes and triggering the needed muscle(s) | similar to say pacemakers. | 1adam1200 wrote: | In diseases like muscular dystrophy there are no muscles to | stimulate. | HideousKojima wrote: | There are still muscles, they slowly deteriorate over | time though. When my friend was in 2nd grade or so he | could still run and play with the other kids. For a few | years after that he could still use a controller to play | video games. As he deteriorated further, he couldn't even | do that, and got most of his enjoyment from watching | other people play games. Heartbreakingly his nephew, who | was named after my friend, also suffers from muscular | dystrophy since it's a genetic illness. | Calavar wrote: | I am a physician, though not a specialist in that | particular area (otolaryngology). | | A healthy heart contracts exactly the same way (nearly) | every time. There is a single electrical tree that | coordinates the entire heart, so if you shock the tree at | the right point, it will propagate down the entire tree in | a predictable pattern and you get normal heart contraction | "for free" | | The throat is orders of magnitude more complicated. There | are several major muscles involved in swallowing, each of | which can have tens to hundreds of thousands of individual | fibers, each with their own innervation. Coordinating all | these fibers to produce a single coherent motion is complex | and is not fire and forget - it involves some pretty | intricate feedback loops between processing centers in the | brain and stretch receptors in the muscle, with the brain | refining and redirecting movements based on updated data | from the stretch receptors. | | It's like the sending a single strong electrical pulse to | your lightbulb versus a CPU. It will probably do what you | expect for the lightbulb (heart), but not for the CPU | (throat). | im3w1l wrote: | > sending a single strong electrical pulse | | Technology is way further along than that though, e.g. | https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60258620 | throwaway5752 wrote: | Deepest condolences to the Nadella family. Their love for their | son and his memory are a blessing. | | If you have been exposed to software accessibility, you know how | challenging technology can be for people with even minor | disabilities. Zain's father's love and dedication has had a | profound impact improving the lives of many others. | gigatexal wrote: | Condolences to the Nadellas | wanderingmind wrote: | Sometimes when I complain about small aspects of my comfortable | life, I need to look around and see people like Satya, who was | able to not just juggle but be extraordinary in both his personal | and professional lives. I just cant imagine how he did it. A true | inspiration. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-03-01 23:00 UTC)