[HN Gopher] Brave Talk: Unlimited, private video calls, in browser
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Brave Talk: Unlimited, private video calls, in browser
Author : codetrotter
Score : 22 points
Date : 2022-03-03 22:10 UTC (49 minutes ago)
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| okl wrote:
| Asking as a Firefox user -- is it worth giving Brave a try?
| easrng wrote:
| Not really. I used to use it, but it was noticeably slower than
| Firefox and ungoogled chromium. It's basically just ungoogled
| chromium with a bunch of extensions preinstalled.
| jsnk wrote:
| Your statement isn't true for Ubuntu and ZorinOS. Firefox on
| Ubuntu and ZorinOS still have breaking problems with some
| websites such as Google Map.
|
| https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+google+map+ubuntu&sx.
| ..
| jm4 wrote:
| It's ok. It certainly doesn't hurt to try it. I tried using it
| as a daily driver a couple times and went back to Firefox. In
| my opinion, Vivaldi is better than Brave and I also prefer it
| to Firefox.
| pl0x wrote:
| orkaa wrote:
| It is worth giving it a try, why not. I'm a Firefox user and I
| gave it a try for ~3 months out of boredom (and perception of
| higher speed). The novelty wore off and I went back to FF, but
| now I know why I like it more.
|
| With Brave I never really bought into the advertising model so
| all those little donation buttons and crypto suggestions
| started to bother me.
| endisneigh wrote:
| I wonder if Brave or any other browser will eventually allow for
| some sort of "delegation" ability to be introduced, where you can
| use your own spare compute to effectively run the tab on another
| machine but present it nicely (with even things like being able
| to select the text and copy) on the present.
|
| Brave is really introducing many of these features and I fear
| it'll be the same slogged down mess as all of the other browsers
| when you use them all at once.
| sneak wrote:
| Brave seemed to start out as an ad-replacement system. There was
| a crypto-token involved. Then they decided to be a Patreon-style
| support-any-website thing, which turned into legal hot water when
| they started accepting money for people who hadn't signed up.
|
| Now they seem to be doing the privacy-browser thing, like Firefox
| was before it went all "spyware on by default".
|
| Then there was a search engine? And now video calls?
|
| This seems like a team and some funding in search of a problem,
| like a heat-seeking missile without a target. From an outside
| perspective, the product strategy seems entirely incoherent.
|
| Who are the competitors? Ad networks? ERC20s? Mozilla?
| DuckDuckGo? Google? Zoom?
|
| I've no idea what is happening with this company, and from a
| personal standpoint, I don't use products that aren't a component
| of some larger mission or vision, as they're usually just a quite
| temporary affair until such time the (seemingly aimless)
| organization evaporates. Every additional pivot and product
| launch adds to my confusion and reduces my understanding (and
| respect for) the brand.
|
| I have no idea what the Brave brand is supposed to represent, or
| what the company's stated purpose is. This seems like a major
| failure of their communications.
|
| EDIT: TFA says "Unlimited, private video calls, right in your
| browser. No extra apps.". I'm using a browser, but the CTA button
| says to download an extra app: a different browser. I'm really
| hoping we're not at the point now where "in browser" now
| generically means "in the browser I want you to use". That, to
| me, would be a good and clear sign that apps have killed the web.
|
| EDIT2: It looks like this is also a paid subscription service if
| you want more than 4 call participants. This adds to my total
| confusion about Brave's revenue plans.
| pl0x wrote:
| miohtama wrote:
| Web browser business must be hard unless you have a
| complimentary revenue stream. Brave tries to push on some new
| tech fronts, like IPFS, but there is no third wheel between
| Apple - Google - Mozilla. Also, Mozilla is losing impact when
| commercial operators are winning over mission driven companies.
| seumars wrote:
| Can a web browser actually just be a web browser nowadays?
| Seriously, is there really not a market for such a thing?
| miohtama wrote:
| Web browser has become the light client of the world, what Java
| Applet were visioned in late 90s.
| tehlike wrote:
| fairly sure this is just a user agent gating. There's nothing
| about a video call that cannot be done through chrome
| obviously.
| cheald wrote:
| This is just a whitelabeled Jitsi deployment. They might've added
| some extra features, but you can get the same at
| https://meet.jit.si/. If you want to run your own server, you can
| deploy the software pretty easily (docs at
| https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide/devops-gu...).
|
| I set up a Jitsi deployment for my company in mid 2020 when
| everyone went online, and it's served us quite faithfully.
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