[HN Gopher] Tradle
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       Tradle
        
       Author : tantalor
       Score  : 255 points
       Date   : 2022-03-10 18:57 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (oec.world)
        
       | user- wrote:
       | #Tradle #4 6/6
       | 
       | https://oec.world/en/tradle
       | 
       | Sharing output is kinda misleading, I thought it would share the
       | %s and direction.
        
       | Laforet wrote:
       | Interesting, who knows the top export of Macedonia are
       | centrifuges?
        
       | joshstrange wrote:
       | I might consider adding whatever the attribute is this week (I
       | know it's changed over the years) to prevent auto-complete. My
       | 1Password extension keeps trying to fill in my address on the
       | guessing field.
       | 
       | EDIT: Editing the page with some of the ways to disable
       | autocomplete [0] don't seem to be working but I'm not sure if
       | that's because 1Password binds at page load and doesn't care what
       | I change using DevTools. In the end this is clearly 1Password's
       | problem [0] but I sympathize with them even as I am negatively
       | affected by it. If they had an attribute (like lastpass) we all
       | know the worst websites/offenders on the planet (banks, intranet
       | sites, most financial institutions, most site asking for
       | routing/account numbers, etc) would abuse the hell out of it.
       | It's bad enough when they try to prevent copy/pasting in. I do
       | think they should at least provide a way to blacklist sites where
       | you don't want to use 1Password.
       | 
       | [0] https://stackoverflow.com/a/51686510/1072106
       | 
       | [1] https://1password.community/discussion/117501/as-a-web-
       | devel...
        
         | unfocussed_mike wrote:
         | I've noticed this a whole lot recently -- a whole bunch of
         | sites inappropriately autocompleting irrelevant things.
        
         | atombum wrote:
         | I had to disable autocomplete recently, neither
         | autocomplete="false" or autocomplete="off" worked. MDN (source
         | below) indicates using "new-password, but in my experience
         | passing in any random string to the autocomplete attribute did
         | work.
         | 
         | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Securi...
        
           | joshstrange wrote:
           | Yeah, I've taken to just generating a UUID and throwing in
           | there as I normally have a library to do that on my frontend
           | projects.
        
       | junon wrote:
       | On mobile I tapped on the boxes to see what they were. The pop
       | ups have the answer in them. Not very helpful :/
        
         | paxys wrote:
         | Same on the web
        
       | suc_syn wrote:
       | test
        
       | renewiltord wrote:
       | Text field does not clear when I submit. Chrome on Mac OS. But
       | game is fun!
        
       | druadh wrote:
       | Seems like a fun guessing game, but the UI wasn't intuitive. I
       | don't know if my first guess was correct, I thought for a while I
       | was supposed to interact with the gray boxes, etc. I'd recommend
       | having some non-dev friends play with it and provide feedback.
       | 
       | 2nd on the giving geoguessr a run for its money. Or forming a
       | strategic partnership? "Love tradle? You might like geoguessr,
       | too!" etc
        
         | ghostly_s wrote:
         | Same, and I was incredibly confused by the wordle-style colored
         | squares that briefly appeared. I saw them on the '?' page too,
         | but no explanation of what they mean. I successfully completed
         | the puzzle and still have no idea what those were.
        
           | dwighttk wrote:
           | Just a % bar for how close you are to the country
           | geographically
        
         | amilios wrote:
         | Its UI is similar to Worldle (https://worldle.teuteuf.fr/), it
         | might be implicitly assuming you're familiar with it already,
         | in which case the "how close you are geographically" mechanism
         | makes sense.
        
           | klodolph wrote:
           | I don't think familiarity with Wordle helps much. This UI is
           | pretty damn confusing. You type in country names, and then a
           | km value, arrow, and percentage value appears. I have no idea
           | what these signify. Clicking on the boxes brings up a box
           | that gives you information but I have no idea how that
           | information is relevant.
        
       | suc_syn wrote:
       | this is great
        
       | pearjuice wrote:
       | When will we get a Wordle version where we guess the Wordle
       | clone?
        
       | throwesja234123 wrote:
       | It said to click for more information so I clicked.
       | 
       | Then is said related searches: What does Sweden export (2019)?
       | 
       | I tried Sweden and got the answer.
       | 
       | Seems like a bad UI.
        
         | below43 wrote:
         | Same here. The "more information" gave the country name away.
        
       | petepete wrote:
       | That was fun, but as others have said the UI is a bit confusing.
       | 
       | Got it in two, thought it was Germany first and the arrow pointed
       | me in the right direction.
        
         | sdze wrote:
         | Germany immediately was not an option... Volkswagen alone has
         | like 100 Bln revenue per year.
        
         | unfocussed_mike wrote:
         | I actually missed the significance of the arrow entirely. It's
         | obvious but I still focussed mostly on the distance.
        
         | sarsway wrote:
         | I was on the same vein, but the petroleum and fish exports
         | doesn't really fit so I was thinking UK first. In retrospect
         | though I wasn't considering the total trade value, it narrows
         | possible countries quite a bit, could make it a bit too easy
         | maybe? It's probably a lot harder though with less prominent
         | countries. Why only one per day though!
        
       | rsstack wrote:
       | The distance really confused me. I got a distance of 4,353 km
       | between a guess and the answer - which is what you get from
       | Google, but now what you'd say from looking at a map. Border-to-
       | border they are only 250 km apart.
        
         | macintux wrote:
         | Worldle uses the same calculations, center to center, else
         | Russia would be just a few miles from the U.S. e.g.
        
           | rsstack wrote:
           | Russia _is_ 4 km from the US :)  "Oklahoma to Krasnoyarsky
           | Krai" makes sense mathematically but is a weird claim to
           | make.
        
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       | belkarx wrote:
       | Add a link to a map maybe? instead of "more information"
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | yuy910616 wrote:
       | Ah! I was wondering what car brand, I'm guessing it's Volvo?
        
       | muhammadusman wrote:
       | how does it work?
        
       | spullara wrote:
       | #Tradle #4 1/6
       | 
       | https://oec.world/en/tradle
        
       | oktwtf wrote:
       | Okay, that was fun; maybe even a bit educational. I am not the
       | best with geography, but I was able to guess based off the
       | distance, got it on my fourth guess. It's not like I'm up to date
       | on the exports of each nation or anything.
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | All these geo games that give you distances and directions to
         | the correct answer would probably reward a little study of
         | distance scales and how the continents line up.
        
       | paxys wrote:
       | Does "cars 7.5%" mean 7.5% of the country's exports is cars OR
       | the country supplies 7.5% of the global car market?
        
         | spiffytech wrote:
         | I think it means 7.5% of the country's exports are cars. The
         | visualization is a treemap, which shows relative sizes of
         | datapoints. And if you click through to https://oec.world/ and
         | check a country's data, you can see on the left its exports and
         | on the right global exporters of the same good. The answer
         | country is not 7.5% of global exports.
         | 
         | Other tips: the arrow is the direction the answer country is
         | from your guess. The km is how far away.
        
         | hpkuarg wrote:
         | The former.
        
       | Melatonic wrote:
       | edit:
       | 
       | Now I am really confused. It lets me guess again if I reload the
       | page (no matter what I guess). I only get a few options from
       | countries to pick (5 total) when I click the box to guess (a
       | dropdown menu appears). After I used all of the slots it told me
       | the answer was XXXXX (which was never an option for me to guess).
       | No idea how this works.
        
       | ekabod wrote:
       | Full of bugs. HN users are not testers.
        
       | qurm wrote:
       | Very informative game, and Friday's is more challenging.
       | 
       | #Tradle #5 6/6
       | 
       | https://oec.world/en/tradle
        
         | OGWhales wrote:
         | > Friday's is more challenging
         | 
         | Gave that one a go, here is the percentage & direction for my
         | guesses: https://i.imgur.com/hGyNemi.png
        
       | weakwire wrote:
       | Nice. Easy however to guess the country if you check the code.
       | Sharing the results doesn't have much value because of that. src=
       | "https://oec.world/en/visualize/embed/tree_map/hs92/export/sw..."
        
       | echelon wrote:
       | Careful reading the comments here. Several posts contain today's
       | answer.
        
       | pianoben wrote:
       | Got it in one :)
       | 
       | Cars + Lumber + Oil narrowed it down pretty well.
        
         | perlgeek wrote:
         | wouldn't that also fit Brazil, for example?
        
           | hn_user82179 wrote:
           | I would've expected soybeans to be in there for Brazil. Also,
           | I didn't realize Brazil exported any cars! I went off of the
           | car one and tried to think of the foreign car manufacturers I
           | see around here (US) and came up with Subaru/Toyota (Japan),
           | Kia/Nissan (S. Korea), Audi/VW/BMW (Germany), Ferrari/Alfa
           | Romeo (Italy) and Volvo (Sweden). That narrows it down quite
           | a bit. Granted I'm not a big car person so I could've been
           | wrong as I know there are a lot of large carmakers who don't
           | export to the US.
        
         | davidw wrote:
         | Flubbed the first guess, took a better look and got it on the
         | second one.
        
         | unfocussed_mike wrote:
         | I got this in three, all quite close countries -- though I
         | should have got it in one from the kaolin-coated paper bit.
        
       | throwaway6532 wrote:
       | This has a similar interface to Worldle
       | (https://worldle.teuteuf.fr/) which I've been playing a lot. I've
       | long been a fan of the OEC and always use it when I get curious
       | about what goes on in a country at a high level, so both of these
       | things in concert will really help me improve my geography!
        
         | desmondw wrote:
         | I was also excited to add this, but unlike Worldle it doesn't
         | support imperial units and is pretty unusable on mobile.
        
           | Jedd wrote:
           | > I was also excited to add this, but unlike Worldle it
           | doesn't support imperial units ...
           | 
           | I'd say that's a feature.
           | 
           | It aligns with 98% of the world's countries, and 95% of the
           | world's population.
        
       | XCSme wrote:
       | I don't understand how it works.
       | 
       | EDIT: Nevermind, after reading some comments I got it, you are
       | not supposed to click the big colored boxes.
        
       | sdze wrote:
       | I won at 2nd try. First Italy, then Sweden.
        
       | bru wrote:
       | Web browser is a different language than English (French). When I
       | try to enter a country whose name isn't the same in English and
       | French, I get a pop-up saying "Pays inconnu" (unknown country).
        
       | Uptrenda wrote:
       | How many boring wordle clones are you sheep going to upvote?
       | Wordle sucks
        
       | shawndrost wrote:
       | I feel the need to brag that I guessed Sweden on the first try. I
       | think that means the product is working!
        
       | spamtarget wrote:
       | One question per day? Really stupid...
        
       | ducktective wrote:
       | Nice!
        
       | dna_polymerase wrote:
       | Remove the "trade" theme. Put a random picture from Google Street
       | View at the top and give geoguessr a run for their money.
        
         | nicky0 wrote:
         | No you
        
         | mappu wrote:
         | That's a quite good idea for another Wordle
         | (/Worldle/Globle/...) clone, but i think it could be a separate
         | project to this one.
        
       | cyounkins wrote:
       | I can't seem to scroll the country list! Firefox 98 on macOS
       | 12.2.
        
       | bee_rider wrote:
       | I don't really understand what the 'share' button shows. The
       | first 3 squares seem to be always green, but then the other two
       | turn yellow or green... based on some sort of closeness or
       | something?
        
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