[HN Gopher] 33 years ago today I submitted a proposal for a syst...
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       33 years ago today I submitted a proposal for a system called the
       World Wide Web
        
       Author : app4soft
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2022-03-12 20:56 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | m00dy wrote:
       | Lightning only hits once.
        
         | robbedpeter wrote:
         | Roy Sullivan would like a word with the manager...
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan
        
       | tonymet wrote:
       | i wish he would #standagainstgdprconsentdialogs
        
         | yokoprime wrote:
         | On the one hand Ukrainians with their exitential struggle
         | against a foe which unprovoked has invaded their country and
         | are killing civilians without scrutiny, on the other hand...
         | consent dialogs. I can see the dilemma of choosing one or the
         | other.
        
       | bombcar wrote:
       | The story so far: 33 years ago the World Wide Web was created.
       | This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded
       | as a bad move.
        
         | morpheos137 wrote:
         | Mainly because it was commercialized. Of course that was always
         | the plan. To get people really mad and harvest their emotions.
        
         | djbusby wrote:
         | It's an OK joke. But, wow, the Web is pretty awesome.
        
       | app4soft wrote:
       | _Tim Berners-Lee_ tweeted today:
       | 
       | > _33 years ago today, I submitted a proposal for a system called
       | the World Wide Web._ [0]
       | 
       | > _I 'd normally publish thoughts on the state of the web. But
       | these are not normal times. Instead, Rosemary Leith & I ask you
       | to join us to #StandWithUkraine however you can._
       | 
       | > _https://webfoundation.org/2022/03/standing-with-ukraine-a-
       | me..._
       | 
       | This tweet also quotes _Rosemary Leith_ 's yesterday's tweet:
       | 
       | > _To mark the web 's birthday this year, Tim Berners-Lee and I
       | have donated to causes supporting women, children & journalists
       | in Ukraine._[1]
       | 
       | > _Join us, if you can, to contribute and #StandWithUkraine._
       | 
       | > _https://webfoundation.org/2022/03/standing-with-ukraine-a-
       | me..._
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://twitter.com/timberners_lee/status/150259484604495463...
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       | [1] https://twitter.com/rosemaryleith/status/1502224095001382913
        
         | skywal_l wrote:
         | https://nitter.net/timberners_lee/status/1502594846044954630
        
       | onetokeoverthe wrote:
        
       | morpheos137 wrote:
       | 23 years ago people in the West were allowed to view Kremlin.ru.
       | Now they can't without difficulty.
       | 
       | Apparently some information is too dangerous to be free.
       | 
       | Maybe 13 years ago people interested in psychology or history or
       | just interested could view North Korean propaganda on Youtube.
       | 
       | Now it has been banned. Apparently we were worried about people
       | in Topeka falling for Kim Jong Un.
       | 
       | Meanwhile if you talk about Hunter Biden you'll be banned too.
       | 
       | Ridiculous what the www has come to.
       | 
       | Now in 2022 most people don't use it much. They mostly go to a
       | fenced pasture like Reddit or Facebook where corporations or VCs
       | hope to harvest their emotions for money and power.
        
         | michaelmrose wrote:
         | The page you mentioned is perfectly readable here in the US
         | unlike much of the Propaganda on YouTube.
         | 
         | Propaganda is effective else it wouldn't be of any use. People
         | judge veracity in large part via ubiquity and truthiness not
         | intelligent analysis therefore it is useful to block it as any
         | other munitions heading your way. People can still get the
         | other side of the argument by going directly to the source
         | without organically encountering lies on YouTube and being
         | influenced.
         | 
         | Not blocking the Kremlin but blocking YouTube channels seems
         | like a very balanced correct response.
         | 
         | P.S. nobody cares about Hunter Biden
        
       | OnlyMortal wrote:
       | Though HTML was a DTD of SGML served up via a TCP socket. The
       | only revolution was giving the SGML client app away.
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | Simple as that, huh?
         | 
         | Everything sounds simple if you describe it in a facetiously
         | simple way.
         | 
         | Michelangelo's David is just some bit of rock that someone's
         | chipped away at.
        
           | justinator wrote:
           | Even simpler is the fact that all Michelangelo did was take
           | away the bits of marble that _weren 't_ David.
        
         | hirundo wrote:
         | That is a floccinaucinihilipilification.
        
         | tonymet wrote:
         | don't forget the headers
        
         | tpmx wrote:
         | > The only revolution was giving the SGML client app away.
         | 
         | No, the revolution was this combination of three relatively
         | simple protocols (HTTP, URL, HTML) which together were
         | incredibly powerful. The SGML crowd never came up with anything
         | like that.
         | 
         | Reducing this to "giving away the client app" misses the point
         | of the above _so_ badly.
        
         | em3rgent0rdr wrote:
         | Indeed every great accomplishment can be reduced to a series of
         | simple increments ontop of previous accomplishments. Brick-by-
         | brick we all stand on solders of giants.
        
         | chasing wrote:
         | Sometimes that's all it takes, man. Although I suspect there
         | was a little more to it. Regardless, we're not celebrating the
         | effort -- many things take harder work to accomplish -- we're
         | celebrating the effect, which has been world-changing.
        
       | parksy wrote:
       | Happy birthday, the web.
       | 
       | We're still ironing out a few things and I hope we figure it all
       | out some day.
        
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