[HN Gopher] Show HN: A game that tests how well you know your lo... ___________________________________________________________________ Show HN: A game that tests how well you know your local area Author : adamlynch Score : 369 points Date : 2022-03-19 12:50 UTC (10 hours ago) (HTM) web link (backofyourhand.com) (TXT) w3m dump (backofyourhand.com) | Aachen wrote: | Title: s/area/street names/ | | Was already wondering how this game was going to work, like | geoguessr maybe? | | Still fun though! Just not what I expected from the name. | patrickwalton wrote: | I can't seem to get it to my area. It's in Ireland and I can't | find an option to make it go anywhere else. | [deleted] | adamlynch wrote: | Hey Patrick, there are buttons to zoom in & out in the top | right of the map. You can then click/tap on any town / anywhere | on the map to set the location. | | And it'll remember that location next time. | | (You can also click and drag the map to move around) | sokoloff wrote: | On iOS, the two finger manipulations (drag and pinch zoom) | worked very well, then a single tap to place the game area. I | was pleased at how fluid the map manipulation was; nice work! | adamlynch wrote: | Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks, I was worried | something was broken | code_runner wrote: | Love this! Works great on mobile. Awesome idea. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks. I'm glad to hear that because I put effort into mobile. | I thought it would be my older family members that would like | it the most and use it on phones or tablets (I was right) | bussiere wrote: | nice concept :) | adamlynch wrote: | Hi HN, I made Back Of Your Hand, a map-based game where you're | given random street names and you have to locate them on the map. | You can play solo or compete with friends on other devices. | | I made it for my dad as a Christmas present. It also gave me an | opportunity to learn about geocoding, etc. | | Tech: serverless, Leaflet, Turf, Svelte, TypeScript, Cloudflare | pages. I tried to use as many open / free tools as I could. I | originally used map tiles from OpenStreetMap but they were | discontinued so it uses Mapbox and Maptiler now. | | Questions / feedback welcome. I also wrote a blog post with more | information: https://adamlynch.com/back-of-your-hand. The code: | https://github.com/adam-lynch/back-of-your-hand | | Warning: it's pretty difficult, unless your streets are numbered | :) | rubyfan wrote: | how does this get my location? I use a Cloudflare WARP+ which | seems to mask my IP for most sites but this one looks like it's | using a nearby cell tower? | adamlynch wrote: | I don't know exactly but I use the geolocation information | Cloudflare gives me in my edge function/worker. It's not 100% | accurate or reliable. Your result can vary minutes apart or | depending on which network you're on. | kuu wrote: | First of all: it's really cool and fun! Congratulations! | | As a small feedback: adjustable radius would be more fun. For | example in the town were I had my childhood, this area is too | big and takes other neighbourhood/cities that I don't know, but | for where I live now it fits great. | | Again, nice job and congratulations for making it! | adamlynch wrote: | Thank you :) | | This has come up so much. I'll be adding it, thanks! | jwagenet wrote: | Dropping a pin close enough on mobile to get 100 points was | really difficult. I probably was only able to average like 12m | accuracy even though the pin appeared to be in the correct | place every time. | | I also did my area twice and around 6/10 were either numbered | or major roads that are very easy to ID. It might make sense to | deemphasize larger or longer roads and numbered roads for a | better balance of true local knowledge. | adamlynch wrote: | I will fix the pin accuracy issue for sure! | lostlogin wrote: | Zooming right in helps, but with 100% knowledge of the | answers I still got points deducted. | jimmaswell wrote: | I'm only getting a blank background on Firefox, both Android | and desktop. | | Edge too, is the service just down? | adamlynch wrote: | OK it should be _more_ back now. I migrated from Cloudflare | functions to a Cloudflare worker. Make sure to clear your | cache / hard reload though | adamlynch wrote: | Yes but it should be back now? | | My hosting provider (Cloudflare Pages) seem to have a limit | on "functions" I cannot increase. I've worked around it for | now but it might open at Cork for everyone. If so, you can | zoom out and tap the map to select somewhere else. | jimmaswell wrote: | I put my town's coordinates in manually and it's still | blank, and I don't see anything zooming all the way out. | | What do you mean by functions? I would just request | location with javascript and use Google geolocation as a | fallback. | adamlynch wrote: | OK I'm done with fighting fires for now and can answer | that last question. Cloudflare offer "functions" and | "workers", they're like functions that run on the edge | CDN nodes. | | These functions receive geolocation information via a | function argument. So I've a function that intercepts | requests to the app, grabs the geolocation information, | and rewrites the URL (inserting the coordinates e.g. | /lat,lng). | | I go into more detail about this in the blog post but | originally it just opened in Cork for everyone. I | disliked the idea of having an annoying browser prompt | for location permissions. I made it for my dad so having | no geolocation was fine to begin with and I eventually | added the geolocation I described above. Less friction, | no extra client-side requests. | noisefridge wrote: | Nice and fun. Have you considered points of interest, photos | from open sources like Panoramio or Creative Commons search, | links to Wikipedia articles? | | Sometimes I get stumped and I also want a picture to explain it | adamlynch wrote: | Very interesting. No I haven't, thanks | TimPC wrote: | The circle is a bit large as in larger than a single | neighborhood for my city. I feel like the game is useful when | it asks you how well you know a single neighborhood. It's less | interesting when it asks you how well you know 2.5 | neighborhoods. | bwanab wrote: | Agreed. I live in a densely packed urban neighborhood. | There's no way I know streets that aren't main streets more | than 1/2 mile away. | | Cool concept though. This would be a nice game at many | geographic magnitudes. | rockostrich wrote: | It's also kinda silly to do streets for something like | Manhattan since it's a grid. But landmarks/businesses would | work really well in any city. | petschge wrote: | In my case it covers three different villages... | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks for the feedback. I'm considering adding difficulty | modes or a way to change the radius. I'd rather that people | wouldn't get a perfect score too easily though | TimPC wrote: | I think it's more important for the game to be meaningful | than difficult. How well do you know a neighborhood is | deeply meaningful. How well do you know 2.5 neighborhoods | isn't. I'd strongly recommend sacrificing difficulty for | meaning here. | mathgeek wrote: | This is relative to the density of where you are playing. | The default radius out in rural areas doesn't have enough | roads, for example. A customizable radius or geofence | sounds appealing. | BrandoElFollito wrote: | A geofence matching the city limits would be great | adamlynch wrote: | Right now there's no backend but potentially I could have | a leaderboard per geofenced city / town | adamlynch wrote: | I agree (and what you want out of the game). I wonder is | there a "number of streets" which is a better sweet spot | / a better default, rather than a radius | nannal wrote: | I want to chime in as well to say I felt the circle was too | large, I know districts in cities vary in size a lot but, | but the game covered ~6 with mine in the middle. Checking | the village I grew up in also covered the edges of three | towns around it and a neighboring village. | SECProto wrote: | I enjoyed it! worked reasonably well for the city I tried. | I did have a few nitpicks, but they are mostly datasource | related as opposed to anything you can control - the | several rounds i played included a pedway system, several | walking trails, and a private driveway. Only change I might | suggest making is the radius of the pin - getting a 99/100 | for being 6m off because the pin didnt go exactly where I | thought it was. Or is there any way for the pin to snap to | an object? | adamlynch wrote: | Can you give me the coordinates you played in? I will | review the "objects". | | I can do something with the pin too. Probably not | possible to snap though, no. | | Thanks! | SECProto wrote: | > Can you give me the coordinates you played in? I will | review the "objects". | | Here's the osm for the pedway object, labelled a | footpath. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11909462 | | Here's one of the trails: | https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/511807176 | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks! (https://github.com/adam-lynch/back-of-your- | hand/issues/18) | kiney wrote: | I think it would be useful to use actual boundries of | villages or neighbourhoods instead of circles. Not sure how | difficult that is. (the required data is in OSM, at least | in germany) | bussiere wrote: | Good concept but the circle on european city may have too many | streets to know them. | | having the option to choose the size of the circle could be nice | :) | adamlynch wrote: | This has come up so much. I'll be adding it, thanks! | hirundo wrote: | What you get if you live in the boonies: | | "There aren't enough streets in this area. Please select | somewhere else" | adamlynch wrote: | Yeah. Someone did ask today to be able to increase the circle's | radius for cases like this | function_seven wrote: | This is a fun game! | | I tried 2 areas: where I live today and where I delivered pizzas | 20 years ago. | | 3/5 for my local area, 5/5 for my old stomping grounds. I'm no | London taxi driver, but I do have a bit of Knowledge about my old | neighborhood. We didn't have GPS back then and we liked it! | | The size of the circle was perfect. Just large enough to | challenge, but not so large that random tiny streets miles away | trip the player up. | imadethis wrote: | This would be actually helpful practice for first responders. | FDs/EMS in my area are expected to memorize all of the streets in | their region, and I imagine it's the same for PDs too. Another | layer on top of it would be to quiz you on how to get from a | fixed point (the station) to a random intersection. For the US, | you could also provide a random block on a street rather than an | intersection. | adamlynch wrote: | Huh, sounds similar to | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30734219. Thanks! I'd love | to help first responders | ossusermivami wrote: | I admin I know nothing of my neighboroud, pretty fun tho and made | me figuring it out | taken_every_ wrote: | Might be better to base this off of buisnesses and landmarks in | your area. I know mine quite well but fucked if I know where some | tiny side street with a common name is. Maybe that works better | with American style suburbs and grid cities, but in Europe it's | pretty difficult if you are not specifically a delivery person or | taxi driver. | quantumf wrote: | Wow, what a great idea. This is incredibly fun. | pivo wrote: | I failed completely because in my selection (US: | Boston/Cambridge) there are multiple streets with the same name | like Broadway and First Street, and I always picked the wrong | one. | adamlynch wrote: | If they have exactly the same name then you should've gotten | points. If so, please give me an example and I'll fix it. If it | was "Roxbury St" versus "Roxbury Ave", then you're just unlucky | sorry | myself248 wrote: | Yeah, this is killing me. NORTH WOODWARD AVE turns into | WOODWARD AVE turns into NORTH WOODWARD AVE turns into SOUTH | WOODWARD AVE turns into WOODWARD AVE turns into NORTH | WOODWARD AVE completely at random, and none of them count as | each other. And sometimes multiple parts of the same road | show up in the same quiz. | | I know this is fundamentally an OSM data problem, but it's | also your UX problem now. (N 42.5, W 83.17 if you want to | have a look.) | | Also it was quizzing me on park trails. And I just got an | underwater tunnel at the zoo. I guess those are technically | named ways in some manner of speaking, but they're definitely | not streets with signs. | | All that aside, this is really fun! Personal best 470/500. I | wish I could make it longer; n=5 is a small sample and my | scores vary tremendously from one run to the next. | Tempest1981 wrote: | > quizzing me on park trails | | I got one of those too, but I liked it. Nice to explore the | major bike/pedestrian paths. | | I guess it could be an option. | myself248 wrote: | Yeah, I figured out it was a park trail, clicked in the | middle of the only park in the area with substantial | trails, and actually scored very well on it. But the zoo | exhibit... | adamlynch wrote: | I will be reviewing that definitely. Thank you | dwiel wrote: | All the different variations of names of the same road | definitely made the game too frustrating to play much in my | area. Simply counting all names that are only different by | cardinal direction as the same name would solve it. I | imagine in some places though this would be the wrong | behavior. | mahathu wrote: | adam, I loved this and also shared it in my family WhatsApp | group. we all had a lot of fun playing it, thanks for the great | idea and execution! one minor suggestion: consider adding a cross | or some other indicator at the circle of the screen during the | map selection stage. I found that sometimes you want to move the | circle a few metres in some direction, but it's difficult to | guess/tap where the new center should be without knowing exactly | where the current one is. | adamlynch wrote: | Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback. An alternative might be | to make the circle draggable | worstestes wrote: | Hey Adam! This is awesome! Have you ever considered using | something like MapLibre as an open source alternative to MapBox? | adamlynch wrote: | I wasn't aware of it, thanks. I didn't use Mapbox originally | but I had to switch after the OSM no-streets tiles were | discontinued. I'll look into it! | | https://github.com/adam-lynch/back-of-your-hand/issues/15 | kfajdsl wrote: | I basically failed because almost all of the selections were | random tiny roads in subdivisions (thanks Atlanta sprawl). Got | all the roads with thru traffic though! | myself248 wrote: | Oooo. | | Longer roads should score more points because they're more | important / you're a bigger idiot for missing them? ;) | Kye wrote: | Same area. There's a hundred or more tiny subdivision roads | for every major road. It would be better to omit roads under | a certain length entirely since it's not reasonable for | someone to know all the roads in a subdivision they never | have a reason to visit. | adamlynch wrote: | Definitely considering this btw but it might need to be a | setting | rsstack wrote: | I didn't realize it was just going to be street names, and picked | my area in Manhattan. The streets and avenues are numbered :) | mypalmike wrote: | Same in my part of Seattle. | HL33tibCe7 wrote: | This is great | mgfist wrote: | Living in Manhattan is a cheat code for this | djhn wrote: | This is great. Works very well for Helsinki. | adamlynch wrote: | I've actually heard that before! Kiitos :) | alistairSH wrote: | No map loading for me - too much traffic? Safari on iOS. | fuzzybassoon wrote: | Same here. It was working when I first visited 10 minutes ago, | but I got an error at some point and now it won't load | (multiple browsers, multiple computers). | Twisell wrote: | Probably a HN hug of death situation. | | The app seem to rely on a third party basemap provider, they | usually have have a quota beyond which the service will stop | serving maps for the app. | adamlynch wrote: | Yes but it should be back now? | | My hosting provider (Cloudflare Pages) seem to have a limit on | "functions" I cannot increase. I've worked around it for now | but it might open at Cork for everyone. If so, you can zoom out | and tap the map to select somewhere else. | AlecSchueler wrote: | Still no map for me. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks. I've confirmed it's back but then somehow | Cloudflare started served an old deploy again for some time | and now it's back working again. I didn't change anything. | Ugh. | | https://5fee8b00.backofyourhand.pages.dev/ may be more | reliable but who knows. | | As for the original issue, Cloudflare has a 100k function | invocation limit and I can't even pay to increase it. | adamlynch wrote: | OK it should be _more_ back now. I migrated from Cloudflare | functions to a Cloudflare worker. Make sure to clear your | cache / hard reload though | chadlavi wrote: | 475/500 in Brooklyn, which I will consider a total success. Neat | game! | asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: | Would be cool if bars, restaurants and tourist attractions were | added! But a fun little geoguessr like romp either way. | myself248 wrote: | Yessss, this is what I imagined from the headline. But I | suspect the data quality is trash... | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks for the feedback! Will look into it | lwkl wrote: | This is crazy hard it covers my whole city and parts of the | metropolitan area. I guess you will have to play this a lot to | get any good at it if you are living in a medium sized city in | central Europe. :) | | Edit: I think you should be able to make the radius a little bit | smaller or add an option to choose from different radii. | adamlynch wrote: | Great feedback, thanks. I also considered factoring in street | length for difficulty modes. | | My dad has gotten a perfect score a couple of times. Cork isn't | huge but that's still very difficult. He's a human map | robbedpeter wrote: | There's a tiny distance between this game and actual mnemonic | techniques used by world champion memory athletes. Method of | loci capitalizes on the fact that the brain stores memories | using a map like structure, as a result of grid cells. | | If you can, get a cabby in London with "The Knowledge" to do | a session. Such cabbies are among elite humans, of a handful | of disciplines known to alter the structure of their brains | in a predictable way. Like Shaolin monks, Australian | aboriginal shamans, and others, they've got an amazing | superpower. | | Neat game, and fascinating peripheral subjects, thanks! | adamlynch wrote: | Fascinating, thanks! I knew of memory palaces but I hadn't | considered taxi drivers! Can't wait to tell my dad someone | on the internet said he's a genius :P | robbedpeter wrote: | Also, your dad is 99% of the way to having an enormous | "memory palace" if he's got all of Cork memorized. All he | needs to do is imagine a walk between any two points in Cork, | then imagine the things he wants to remember at different | places along that journey, such as at every intersection. To | recall, simply imagine repeating the journey, and the | remembered items will be at the intersections. Digits of pi | or the order of a deck of cards are a good way to test it, | and the cards bit is great for pub tricks and free beers. | porjo wrote: | Another change i think would be helpful for beginners is | ability to set the road category e.g. only guess tertiary and | greater roads | adamlynch wrote: | Good idea | astura wrote: | Depends on what you're looking for but I think this would be more | fun if it excluded very tiny streets, like minimum length. I got | what is essentially a driveway for two houses that's not paved or | labeled, nobody would know it's name (or that it was a named | street even) unless you lived on it or next door to it. (I live | next door to it). Might be less fun if someone got that on their | first try. | | But, again, some people are looking for a challenge, so maybe | make it an option. | admax88qqq wrote: | Now you know more about your local area! | adamlynch wrote: | It's interesting seeing so many different opinions on the | difficulty (whether it's street length, circle radius, etc). | I wonder would the same people's opinions on GeoGuessr | correlate or not | astura wrote: | No I don't, I said I live next door to it, so I knew it. | humanistbot wrote: | I kept getting "Alley" for a city with lots of alleys (DC), which | was very frustrating. | adamlynch wrote: | OK I've updated it to exclude "Alley". Thanks | humanistbot wrote: | Thanks! | Jamie9912 wrote: | How much does this cost to run with the whole Mapbox thing? | piceas wrote: | Neat. Unfortunately appears to be limited to streets in your | local area. I hoped/expected a list of interesting destinations | in the area such as art installations, parks, or even popular | restaurants etc. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks for the feedback! Will look into it | traceroute66 wrote: | Fun, but you know what would be really cool ? | | A Blue Book mode. | | For those unfamiliar Blue Book refers to test "runs" done by | London taxi drivers when they do The Knowledge[1]. | | It would be fun to be given, say _" Australian High Commission, | WC2 to Paddington Station, W2"_ and have to place multiple pins | on the map and then graded on your result. | | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my4lDxOCCyg | adamlynch wrote: | So is the goal is to mark the route you would take? Sounds | interesting. | | Semi-related, it could show you two pins and ask you how long | it would take to drive between them at a given time of day. It | would compare your guess to Google Maps or similar. | traceroute66 wrote: | > So is the goal is to mark the route you would take? Sounds | interesting. | | Basically yes, the Blue Book works on turns so you would mark | the turns. | | So for the example I gave above (Australian High Commission - | Paddington) you might mark the turns: | ALDWYCH CATHERINE ST RUSSELL STREET | DRURY LANE HIGH HOLBORN PRINCES CIRCUS | ST GILES HIGH STREET EARNSHAW STREET NEW | OXFORD STREET OXFORD STREET GT PORTLAND | STREET MARGARET STREET CAVENDISH SQUARE | HENRIETTA PLACE MARYLEBONE LANE WIGMORE | STREET DUKE STREET MANCHESTER SQUARE | MANCHESTER STREET GEORGE STREET EDGWARE | ROAD HARROW ROAD HARROW ROAD ROUNDABOUT | BISHOP'S BRIDGE | | > between them at a given time of day | | Yes, I guess it could give you extra points for choosing less | busy routes during rush hour. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks for explaining! | jedberg wrote: | I did where I live now, and only got 100/500 (perfect score on | the major road, no idea where the rest were). I did my childhood | home and got 99/500. | | My suggestion would be to stick to majors and semi-majors (longer | through streets). It would be more fun that way. | | Also there may be a bug, for the one road I got in the second | try, I put the marker dead center of the entire road, but it said | I was 4 meters off and gave me a 99, even though the green line | was under the pin. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely fix the pin accuracy | and I'm thinking about what to do around street length & | difficulty | leetrout wrote: | The streets in my town were not completely highlighted and | counted off points. I assume that is an issue with how the shape | is interpreted because the street name changes in a turn that | isnt a clear intersection. | adamlynch wrote: | If you could give me an example, I'll look into it. | | I ran into issues like this with a strange streets (described | here https://adamlynch.com/back-of-your-hand/#the-lioscarrig- | driv...), so I consider any two streets with the same name in | the OpenStreetMap data to be the same street. I.e. if you put a | marker down near any of them, you get points. | | However, if the section of road has a different name, then it's | different. | leetrout wrote: | I think the OSM data is bad. Lots of street highlights dont | match the correct names. | | Thanks for the response. | | I can look at what you are using from overpass later and see | what is up with their data. | adamlynch wrote: | Great yeah, I was going to suggest we could contribute | fixes back to OSM if that was the issue :) | ape4 wrote: | I am missing something. It started me in Ireland - I am in North | America | adamlynch wrote: | It must not have been able to detect where you are located. You | can zoom out and click/tap the map to choose the location. And | it'll remember that location next time. | | It defaults to Ireland in this case because I'm Irish. | ape4 wrote: | Thanks. Using Firefox on Windows laptop, FYI. | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks. It's a third-party server-side API I use so it | would be just based on your ID address I think. You can go | here to see where it thinks you are: https://cloudflare- | pages-geolocation.pages.dev. However, this can change if | you reload it minutes apart or if you turn on/off WiFi, | etc. It's not 100% reliable | ape4 wrote: | That give me a very accurate location! Not using any VPN, | etc. | adamlynch wrote: | Try https://backofyourhand.com/ again please, it should | work. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30734844 | for why | zamfi wrote: | I was also started in Cork in-game, while this link | showed me the right location. | | I think your integration may have a bug? | adamlynch wrote: | Maybe. It uses the geolocation information Cloudflare | provides. In general, it isn't extremely accurate and it | doesn't always return the same location, so this doesn't | surprise me too much. | | If it consistently works in one and not the other (at the | same point in time), then the only difference I can think | of is that Back Of Your Hand uses their "edge handlers" / | "functions" and I made that other URL with their | "workers". Hmm. | | --- | | Maybe I could inform the user somehow when it cannot find | a location at all. I really want to avoid a browser popup | asking for the user's location though | slobotron wrote: | Submitted lino includes hardcoded location, maybe that's | what's tripping people up? | adamlynch wrote: | That's it! | | I could've sworn I made sure not to include it when | submitting. It does redirect to that if there's no | location found so maybe HN updated the link to the | redirect destination? | | I'm pushing a change now to ignore this specific lat-lng | combination and fallback to geolocation | adamlynch wrote: | Try again please, it should work. See | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30734844 for why | AussieWog93 wrote: | Same here. Cloudflare link gives me a pin accurate to a | couple of hundred metres, the link in the submission | takes me to Ireland. | adamlynch wrote: | Try again please, it should work. See | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30734844 for why | noamchomsky1 wrote: | map not loading for me. | | latest version of chrome. have tried incognito | adamlynch wrote: | Yes but it should be back now? My hosting provider (Cloudflare | Pages) seem to have a limit on "functions" I cannot increase. | I've worked around it for now but it might open at Cork for | everyone. If so, you can zoom out and tap the map to select | somewhere else. | khendron wrote: | Why does it insist I live in Cork, Ireland when I live in Canada? | adamlynch wrote: | There were issues with my hosting provider. Try again and it | should be fine. Hard refresh to be safe | marc_abonce wrote: | Great game! | | One time I got a the same avenue twice in the same round, but I | don't know if it was a bug in the game or if the data is | duplicated in OpenStreetMap. | | Still great, though. | iamtedd wrote: | In each of the two games I played it asked for the same street | twice, but it's not like there are less than five streets to | choose from. | [deleted] | laurent123456 wrote: | Not sure the selected area is suitable for a city like London - | there are just too many small streets in every directions to be | able to know them all, or even half of them. | | It's possibly more suitable in US cities for example that are | divided into large blocks and large roads. | sapphire_tomb wrote: | Oh I don't know. I'm going to send this to a friend of mine | who's an ex black cab driver. If he doesn't get full marks I'll | be amazed. | adamlynch wrote: | Report back :) | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks. I'm considering adding an option to change the radius | and or difficulty modes which filter out streets by length. | dr_dshiv wrote: | I noticed that some areas pop up more than others. Is there | like a difficulty score that you are calculating in the back? | Making it easier is definitely a challenge, I'd guess. The | major landmarks simply matter more. | | But, I LOVED playing round after round in Amsterdam, learning | more about a city I definitely don't know like the back of my | hand! | | MCQs for marked areas would be nice-- guessing the name of a | place given a location. | | Keep going!! This is really awesome. | adamlynch wrote: | Nah it's pretty dumb right now. All I do is filter out some | names like "Alley" and join same-named streets. | | I don't want to make it too easy but I have gotten a lot of | feedback today about difficulty (area boundary/radius, | street length, etc) so I'll make some changes and hopefully | I can keep going in the right direction. | | Another idea I had was to add hints like maybe you could | have a special button you could press once per round that | would shrink the circle for the given street and then go | back to the normal size next round. | | Thanks for the feedback! | Normal_gaussian wrote: | This is fantastic. My gf and I have been playing it in a cafe, | and doing abysmally - but just sent it to our parents who will | greatly enjoy quizzing themselves! Thanks, you've made our day a | little bit funner and help keep our families a little bit closer. | adamlynch wrote: | Glad to hear it! My older family members love it the most. | Maybe because they didn't grow up with Google Maps | todd3834 wrote: | This worked great in my area. It was hard enough to make it fun | but not too hard. I got a score above 90% so I'm stoked | ajsnigrutin wrote: | Fun "game", but asking you to identify one of the main roads, vs | some minor, three-house road makes it very luck-based. | | Also, I clicked directly on the (correct) road, and it took the | points away, because the hitbox was off | | https://i.imgur.com/yKONWUk.png | | (Topniska ulica, Ljubljana, Slovenia) | adamlynch wrote: | OK I can try to come up with better randomization. | | About the road, this is due to a discrepancy in the | OpenStreetMap data and the actual map tiles I'm using. Hmm. Not | sure what I could here. Maybe I can be more lenient when you're | two pieces of the same road | ladberg wrote: | Pretty cool! As a suggestion it might be a good idea to copy one | of Wordle's simple-but-genius features and make it easy for users | to share a text based summary of their results with others. | adamlynch wrote: | That was a great idea. I'll have to come up with a nice way of | representing your results | baliex wrote: | You could have a look into how https://worldle.teuteuf.fr/ | does it. I'm sure there are better ways but might spark some | inspiratino at least! | adamlynch wrote: | Thanks. Looks like this: | | #Worldle #57 X/6 (69%) \ https://worldle.teuteuf.fr | scyzoryk_xyz wrote: | This is wonderful. | | I used to be a Lyft driver, and something that seemed would be | interesting at the time is a system, not unlike this one, for | learning a city. In London to drive a cab you must do this super | difficult test, and this means cabbies are very knowledgeable | about the city. This is something in that vein, love it. | adamlynch wrote: | Great, thanks! | divbzero wrote: | Reminds me of this study [1] from awhile back where brain scans | revealed that "part of the hippocampus grew larger as the taxi | drivers spent more time in the job". | | [1]: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/677048.stm | jdavis703 wrote: | This game was fun, but it's way too easy. I suspect 90% of | players score over 90 points. Do you have any data on this? | adamlynch wrote: | Damn, I should've tracked that. Judging by the responses here | today, it's both too easy and too difficult simultaneously :/ | planb wrote: | Scary. From the hundreds of streets in my hometown it asked for 2 | of the 4 where I have already lived. | adamlynch wrote: | I made it for my dad for Christmas and the very first time he | played it was the tiny street where he grew up. He didn't | believe me that it was random | _michaelll wrote: | Very fun! I managed a score of 450 in the area I grew up in and | learned to drive in. Definitely the best case scenario for me. | Doctor_Fegg wrote: | This is great! | | > The map tiles are loaded in from two OpenStreetMap tile | providers (one with street names, one without). | | You probably don't need to do that. You can use the same tiles, | the same stylesheet even, and just hide the street names layer in | code: | | https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/toggle-layers/ | adamlynch wrote: | I'll look into this. Since I wrote that initially, the no- | streets OSM map was discontinued so I switched to Mapbox & | Maptiler. But I do use two full layers (one custom one without | street names) rather than doing what you suggest. Hopefully | it's not a paid feature. | bredren wrote: | Well done! Sent it to my pal who likes to go on long walks and | another who enjoys bicycling the city streets. | l2silver wrote: | I love it! Is there anyway to reduce the search radius? | adamlynch wrote: | Great! Not yet, but I am looking into it. A lot of the feedback | has been around the difficulty and the radius. So I might add | difficulty modes and or a way to change the radius. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-03-19 23:00 UTC)