[HN Gopher] What's a fire and why does it burn?
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       What's a fire and why does it burn?
        
       Author : kvee
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-03-23 21:38 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | marethyu wrote:
       | Oh, did Qiaochu finally returned to math after long hiatus?
        
       | jiggawatts wrote:
       | Compare a bunch of chemical formulas and equations in this blog
       | with Richard Feynman's explanation of fire:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1pIYI5JQLE
        
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         | jbay808 wrote:
         | Or Michael Faraday's masterpiece "the chemical history of a
         | candle", which deep-dives not only into what every part of the
         | fire is, but also _how we know_ what it is.
         | 
         | https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/14474/pg14474.txt
         | 
         | The whole book is a delight to read, but I really like this
         | part:
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         | > And now I want you to follow me in this explanation. You
         | would hardly think that all those substances which fly about
         | London, in the form of soots and blacks, are the very beauty
         | and life of the flame, and which are burned in it as those iron
         | filings were burned here...
         | 
         | > I want you now to follow me in this point,--that whenever a
         | substance burns, as the iron filings burnt in the flame of
         | gunpowder, without assuming the vaporous state (whether it
         | becomes liquid or remains solid), it becomes exceedingly
         | luminous. I have here taken three or four examples apart from
         | the candle, on purpose to illustrate this point to you; because
         | what I have to say is applicable to all substances, whether
         | they burn or whether they do not burn,--that they are
         | exceedingly bright if they retain their solid state, and that
         | it is to this presence of solid particles in the candle-flame
         | that it owes its brilliancy.
         | 
         | >... This flame has carbon in it; but I will take one that has
         | no carbon in it. There is a material, a kind of fuel--a vapour,
         | or gas, whichever you like to call it--in that vessel, and it
         | has no solid particles in it; so I take that because it is an
         | example of flame itself burning without any solid matter
         | whatever; and if I now put this solid substance in it, you see
         | what an intense heat it has, and how brightly it causes the
         | solid body to glow. This is the pipe through which we convey
         | this particular gas, which we call hydrogen, and which you
         | shall know all about next time we meet. And here is a substance
         | called oxygen, by means of which this hydrogen can burn; and
         | although we produce, by their mixture, far greater heat[8] than
         | you can obtain from the candle, yet there is very little light.
         | If, however, I take a solid substance, and put that into it, we
         | produce an intense light If I take a piece of lime, a substance
         | which will not burn, and which will not vaporise by the heat
         | (and because it does not vaporise, remains solid, and remains
         | heated), you will soon observe what happens as to its glowing.
         | I have here a most intense heat, produced by the burning of
         | hydrogen in contact with the oxygen; but there is as yet very
         | little light--not for want of heat, but for want of particles
         | which can retain their solid state; but when I hold this piece
         | of lime in the flame of the hydrogen as it burns in the oxygen,
         | see how it glows! This is the glorious lime-light, which rivals
         | the voltaic-light, and which is almost equal to sunlight. I
         | have here a piece of carbon or charcoal, which will burn and
         | give us light exactly in the same manner as if it were burnt as
         | part of a candle. The heat that is in the flame of a candle
         | decomposes the vapour of the wax, and sets free the carbon
         | particles--they rise up heated and glowing as this now glows,
         | and then enter into the air. But the particles when burnt never
         | pass off from a candle in the form of carbon. They go off into
         | the air as a perfectly invisible substance, about which we
         | shall know hereafter.
         | 
         | > Is it not beautiful to think that such a process is going on,
         | and that such a dirty thing as charcoal can become so
         | incandescent? You see it comes to this--that all bright flames
         | contain these solid particles; all things that burn and produce
         | solid particles, either during the time they are burning, as in
         | the candle, or immediately after being burnt, as in the case of
         | the gunpowder and iron-filings,--all these things give us this
         | glorious and beautiful light.
        
         | qiskit wrote:
         | Here is feynman on AI:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipRvjS7q1DI
         | 
         | Feynman turned his focus to computing ( AI, heuristics, quantum
         | computing ) later on his life.
        
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