[HN Gopher] Show HN: I Made a Stupid Game ___________________________________________________________________ Show HN: I Made a Stupid Game Author : last_one_in Score : 115 points Date : 2022-03-31 13:36 UTC (9 hours ago) (HTM) web link (weighoff.net) (TXT) w3m dump (weighoff.net) | [deleted] | anyfactor wrote: | I know this is going to remind us to watch the "Monty Python | Witch Trial" scene. | | https://youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGg | last_one_in wrote: | Aww man, I'm going to have to watch that again tonight. True | story: in one of my tech jobs me and my boss had a game to try | to get Monty Python quotes into meetings. In a client meeting I | talked about search engine behaviour and how you don't want the | search engine to just return any old results like "I found this | spoon" (Life Of Brian). My boss nearly fainted trying not to | laugh. Nobody else got it. | last_one_in wrote: | Watching Holy Grail was the perfect way to unwind at the end of | a very very long day. Thanks! | naoqj wrote: | Doesn't resolve at all. | brazzy wrote: | Firefox refuses to show me the site due to a bad certificate, | apparently its certificate is valid for domains belonging to | arrowloans.co.uk - this is consistent with other reports saying | they're being forwarded to a loans company. | | Looks like your site got hacked, or maybe some weird DNS problem? | last_one_in wrote: | Oopsie. I totally took out the server. Should be back again | later. | kirchhoff wrote: | Site seems compromised? | tayloramurphy wrote: | I'm seeing this as well. Sends me to some home loan page. | isaacimagine wrote: | I did about 20 questions and didn't miss one. Because most | plants, animals, etc are made of water, you really just have to | compare volume. I found that visualizing the order of magnitude | of the volume was a pretty good strategy for estimating weight. | (Water has a density of about 1000 kg/m3) | last_one_in wrote: | Edit: sorry, misread. Wow. My best is about 5 and I've played | it. Solidly for the last 3 days! | yreg wrote: | I don't know if I was just lucky but I also did a lot of them | (where's a counter?) and had all of them right. | | I think the game should try to pick answers that are closer to | each other. Perhaps even have an inconsistent difficulty so | some questions are easier than others. | last_one_in wrote: | It picks choices where the winner is about 10 times the | weight of the loser. Very simple. Still trying to come up | with something better that increases difficulty over time. | superninjy wrote: | Fun game! | | I have a suggestion: the huge numbers are not quite readable. | Maybe add the scientific notation as well. Comparing | 73,400,000,000,000,000,000,000 with | 844,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is tricky, especially since the | numbers are not right aligned. | | Adding a 73.4x10^21 vs 844x10^21 would be helpful. | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah, I'd find that more readable too. I aimed for something | anyone could understand. | crummy wrote: | Could you just have a simple bar graph that showed their | relative sizes? Two numbers with a bunch of zeroes are hard | to compare. | tovej wrote: | Maybe greek prefixes or even spelling out the bigger units? | I.e. 9.4 gigagrams or 54 billion kilograms. | | Of course you might have the issue of short scale vs. long | scale billions but a footnote should solve that. | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah. A friend was playing with a group in a room and one | of them was trying to read out the questions. Not a problem | with 800 gorillas but it is with bigger numbers. Hmm, not | sure what to do. The Greek prefixes I find really hard to | remember! For simplicity and debugging it was easiest to | just slap the numbers up. | cmeacham98 wrote: | Perhaps a toggle? | fallinghawks wrote: | That was wonderfully silly. But some comparators are vague, like | "a can" or "a teabag" (used vs unused is a lot of weight | difference). But making things more specific could detract from | the silliness. | idkwhoiam wrote: | Stupid game is my favourite kind of game. Great job! | last_one_in wrote: | Stupid username is my favourite kind of username. Great job! | robocat wrote: | At least one question has its figures wrong. It asks which is | heavier, Space Shuttle or 747, and goes on to say that the | Shuttle weighs 2 million kg. But that is not just the shuttle: | "The stack, as the composite of orbiter, tank and boosters is | called, has a gross liftoff weight of 2000 tonnes" (which I | presume includes liftoff weight of fuel as well). | someacocunt34 wrote: | For those that are curious (yes, I realize this takes no effort | to find): | | https://weighoff.net/data.js | kizer wrote: | I love the todo list at the bottom. | last_one_in wrote: | Doh! | last_one_in wrote: | I made a game which asks questions like "which weighs more? 8,000 | bumblebees or a gorilla" | okibry wrote: | so weird game but cool :]] | paparush wrote: | Feedback Highlight Correct in green, Incorrect in red | anyfactor wrote: | I love that you are using plain JS for this. I was the kid who | unscrewed the Rubik's cube and screwed it back together because I | am too dumb solve that. | | What is the deal with min_mass_kg and max_mass_kg? | last_one_in wrote: | Thanks. Simplest thing that works. I haven't programmed in | years. I just had the idea. The last game I had released was in | 1991. Seriously. I check min mass of the heavier * its multiple | against max mass of the lighter times its multiple. | navels wrote: | Bait and switch? User account was created an hour ago. | last_one_in wrote: | OP here. Nah man, not bait and switch. The server got fried! | Username is my reddit username. Of 11 years, although I hardly | use it. I read HN daily but never created an account (not that | I can remember anyway). Should all be getting fixed now. | goldcd wrote: | Does seem to be a lot of effort... well I guess if everybody is | off playing "the long game", there's probably a gap in "short" | degenerate wrote: | I did about 15 questions waiting for the game to "end", not | realizing it would go on forever. | | IMO if the game is infinite, count how many questions I get | correct in a row, and have the game end when I get one wrong. | Keep track of my high score and display it somewhere on the page, | so I have a baseline target to beat. That way the game is | _replayable_ and now has a metric for how well someone plays it. | | I got all questions right except for the ones involving the | moon... for some reason I got all those wrong. Moon is big! | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah, I agree. Counting winning streaks is good. I was thinking | of an acheivement system too. | gus_massa wrote: | > _1000 tons of bricks_ | | This option was strange, because all other options don't compare | concrete weigh but weight of objects. | last_one_in wrote: | Ahh, it's joke data: { name: "a ton of bricks", plural: "tons | of bricks", frequency: 0.01, weighWord: "weighs", min_mass_kg: | 1000, max_mass_kg: 1000 }, { name: "a ton of feathers", plural: | "tons of feathers", frequency: 0.01, weighWord: "weighs", | min_mass_kg: 1000, max_mass_kg: 1000 }, | gus_massa wrote: | :) | | Nitpicking: I use 1 ton = 1000 Kg, but world wide it's more | complicated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton | last_one_in wrote: | Bah! Well spotted! | beardyw wrote: | That's definitely heavier than 1000 tons of gorillas! | 0des wrote: | They are the same | gegtik wrote: | wrong.. one of them is bricks whereas the other is gorillas | tenuousemphasis wrote: | 1000 tons is _definitely_ heavier than 1000 kg. | winterismute wrote: | Nice! I think you have a type in "heaver", it should be "heavier" | maybe? | last_one_in wrote: | No way! You are the only person to spot that. Fixed. Thanks!!! | last_one_in wrote: | Haha! Just clocked your username. One of my prize possessions | is a signed copy of Neuromancer. | randomrandi wrote: | Fun! Some feedback: | | 1. Spruce up the design to make seeing the answer more of a "fun" | experience | | 2. Button to share an answer on social media | | 2. Button to send a question to a friend | last_one_in wrote: | TBH my HTML and CSS is so rusty. I haven't built a webpage in | about a decade! I love number 2 and number 2. That's awesome, | especially sending a question to a friend. Love it. | localhost wrote: | I texted my kid a photo of my monitor as a workaround :) | holmesworcester wrote: | My friends and I always talk about how big a social problem | scale-blindness is, so this is awesome! | | Suggestions: | | 1. Show progress towards some fixed number of questions so you | can see your score at the end so you can see how well-calibrated | you are and compare with friends. | | 2. Add other things than weight, so people can get calibrated for | other things too. Time. Probability. Money. Risk of death. Deaths | (in war or from disease, e.g.). Stuff like that! | | 3. Have a speed mode where you have to learn to do these | calculations really fast, so that you can incorporate this | awareness into your day to day life and awareness of things. 4. | Have a slow mode where you are trying to get everything right, so | that you learn how to proceed when you really want to be sure. | | 5. Have a mode where nothing is within 100 or 1000 of anything | else, so that you're purely focused on scale awareness and so | that your ability to estimate on a 10-100 scale doesn't matter so | much. | petersonh wrote: | Feels like I'm answering questions my 4 year old always asks me. | last_one_in wrote: | Weird you should say that. The idea came to me after a long | conversion with my 6 year old. He was telling me about a friend | of his who said he was god or a god and we talked about how you | could test to see if he was. That seemed to trigger off a whole | synaptic storm. | jessep wrote: | It was really fun, but maybe throw a few combos closer in weight | in? I played for maybe 5 minutes and didn't get any wrong. I | would have played longer if I got some wrong. | last_one_in wrote: | You're much better at it than me then :-) | gigaflop wrote: | "10 cans of baked beans" vs "A gorilla" | | A real stumper there, gotta check my math on baked bean can | sizes! | NAHWheatCracker wrote: | It doesn't say the age of the gorilla! | last_one_in wrote: | To be honest, I weighed a can on my kitchen scales :-) | fortran77 wrote: | And how did you weigh the gorilla? | sdwolfz wrote: | According to my reckoning, on his kitchen scales ;) | last_one_in wrote: | Aww man, I couldn't even fit a gorilla in my kitchen let | alone on my scales. | dom96 wrote: | simple idea executed well, that's what makes the best games, | maybe this will be the next wordle? :) | last_one_in wrote: | Aww, thank you. My friend suggested weighdle as a name but I | already had the site up! | isaacimagine wrote: | Really fun game! There's no social incentive to share with | others, or hook to return to play again, though. I learned a | lot about how much thing weigh though. | last_one_in wrote: | Thank you! Yeah, I have been meaning to add that. I just copy | and paste! I want to keep a track of your best winning streak | and have achievements. | goldcd wrote: | I quite enjoyed that. | | Few (hopefully helpful) bits of feedback: | | 1) Would be nicer if it wasn't just an endless list of question | cards. Maybe have new ones sliding in on the right, with answered | ones going off to the left. | | 2) Visually separate the question, your answer, the | correct/incorrect answer and the explanation. | | 3) Scores! How many right, how many in a right in a row, how did | your guess compare with others etc | | 4) Social Interaction. Let me share my "best run in 60 seconds" | and then let others see if they can beat me. | | 5) Pictures? Was just thinking you could have a 2x2 grid, with | number and labelled picture of object in a colum, then you click | on whether you think column 1 or 2 is the heaviest. | | 6) Stats - maybe on landing page or as commentary on your | selections "Did you know the weight of the Blue-whale has the | most over-estimated mass" | | 7) Difficulty curve (or setting), feels a bit odd after you'd put | some estimate into guestimating to just be asked "does a gorilla | weigh more than 5 tins of beans?" Or maybe it just currently | feels too-random. I might get 20 in a row, but I can't compare | myself to somebody else who got another 20 in a row right. | | 8) "Is greater than" is nice, but simple <,> choice makes it too | simple some times. Maybe, "Which is closest to?" - which would | give you multiple options to choose from. | Ntrails wrote: | > 4) Social Interaction. Let me share my "best run in 60 | seconds" and then let others see if they can beat me. | | But please don't decide that you need to shove a popup in my | face repeatedly to persuade me to do so. I don't have "socials" | and have no intention of sharing anything. Being obnoxious | about it is a "Dick Move" imo | SamBam wrote: | Hug of Death. I'll try again in a couple of hours. | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah right. I'm trying to send messages of apology to my | sysadmin (a FOAF). I bet they hate me. | tenuousemphasis wrote: | It's now redirecting to http://arrowloans.co.uk for some | reason. | NAHWheatCracker wrote: | I like it. | | I got most everything right until it asked about the moon | compared to some huge number of elephants and again with | tyranosaurus rexes. I picked moon both times and was wrong. I | felt like those are mathematics questions that don't test your | sense of scale as much as the rest because there's just no real- | life experience. | quartz wrote: | This is fun, well done! | | Also: 700,000,000 peas weighs more than a tyrannosaurus rex?! I | need to re-evaluate my perception of the weight of a pea. | last_one_in wrote: | That is a lot of peas. I might have some maths wrong in there | I'll admit. I hacked it all together in day. | umvi wrote: | 700M drops of water weigh (.05g * 700M) which is 35,000 kg and | a pea weighs more than a drop of water | jaimehrubiks wrote: | "According to my reckoning a human weighs at most 80kg" | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah..... um, so I picked min max ranges which would accomodate | 50-90% of something. The human one is probably a bit narrow. It | was a manic day of googling. Trying to work out what one | molecule of caffeine weighs nearly broke me. | gondo wrote: | Advice: make the answer much more visible. First text, visually | separated (bigger font, bold, line ...), green/red. Separate the | explanation part into its own block of text. | oneoff786 wrote: | Don't do green red for colorblind. | hunter2_ wrote: | As long as there's also a non-color differentiator (like a | checkmark / X) I think it's fine. Just like traffic lights | having different positions. The word itself is possibly | enough, although on the other hand words take longer to | process than shapes/colors so best to offer a shape if also | offering a color. | city17 wrote: | The site forwards me to some UK home loans website? | Stevie300 wrote: | Same, very curious what's going on here. | Beltiras wrote: | Apparently the author was hugged to death. Hosting provider | started to redirect the traffic elsewhere. | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah man, the server got hugged to death. My provider was | awesome solving issues and all back up again. I could do | with a hug after all that! | antattack wrote: | I was redirected to some loan company. | last_one_in wrote: | Aww man, really sorry. Not my doing. Trying to sort it out. My | hosting account's been suspended. It's all gone a bit pear | shaped. Oopsie. | tomhallett wrote: | When you get some time to breathe, I would love to hear a | "retrospective" about how an account suspension turned into a | redirect to a loans website. Did a bad actor notice your | account was suspended, took over it somehow and then they | sent traffic to their website? Is this standard protocol for | your hosting provider (similar to those domain landing pages | which link to all sorts of weird crap)? | last_one_in wrote: | The sysadmin thought I was up to no good and suspended me, | which seems pretty reasonable to me. He was really cool and | not even pissed off that I wiped out a server. All got | cleared up. The site is on a different server now. | tomhallett wrote: | figured that you got suspended, but it sounded like the | url starting going to some other site vs just erroring | out. right? | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah, because I got suspended the webserver decided to | just serve the first site alphabetically. Nice behaviour. | I scared the ** out of me, I thought it had been hacked. | kome wrote: | me too! | sodimel wrote: | Me too. Here's the result of nmap -p 443 --script ssl-cert | weighoff.net: Starting Nmap 7.80 ( | https://nmap.org ) at 2022-03-31 17:24 CEST Nmap scan | report for weighoff.net (213.175.208.197) Host is up | (0.056s latency). rDNS record for 213.175.208.197: | charlie.awebserver.co.uk PORT STATE SERVICE | 443/tcp open https | ssl-cert: Subject: | commonName=arrowloans.co.uk | Subject Alternative Name: | DNS:arrowloans.co.uk, DNS:cpanel.arrowloans.co.uk, | DNS:cpcalendars.arrowloans.co.uk, | DNS:cpcontacts.arrowloans.co.uk, DNS:mail.arrowloans.co.uk, | DNS:webdisk.arrowloans.co.uk, DNS:webmail.arrowloans.co.uk, | DNS:www.arrowloans.co.uk | Issuer: commonName=cPanel, | Inc. Certification Authority/organizationName=cPanel, | Inc./stateOrProvinceName=TX/countryName=US | Public Key | type: rsa | Public Key bits: 2048 | Signature | Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption | Not valid before: | 2022-01-21T00:00:00 | Not valid after: | 2022-04-21T23:59:59 | MD5: 087b d643 652c f167 689e | 71fb 2acc ef07 |_SHA-1: d212 d954 f09d 7ff7 9068 6e90 | 4012 b592 cc2d c64f Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 | host up) scanned in 0.58 seconds | | Edit: that's funny, http://weighoff.net/ (not https) shows the | content of charlie.awebserver.co.uk :D | goldcd wrote: | How odd - I'm now seeing https://www.webs.limited/ | slowmovintarget wrote: | I got the Bad SSL Cert warning in Firefox and just backed | out. | [deleted] | last_one_in wrote: | Yeah, really sorry about that. Wasn't my doing. The rather | unexpected surge of traffic fried the server. Hopefully | resolved now. I was never expecting to hit the front page of HN | let alone number 1. | oldstrangers wrote: | Chrome is flagging your SSL cert as being invalid, just an FYI. | contravariant wrote: | That's because it's forwarding the traffic to some entirely | unrelated website for some reason. Not sure if the DNS went | screwy, but something is not right. | oldstrangers wrote: | Think the guy got hacked mid launch. | last_one_in wrote: | OP here. Everything went screwy! Should be working again now. | I don't even work in tech anymore. I haven't been involved in | a website launch in over a decade. It's been one hell of a | day. My plan for the day was literally to put the site up and | then do some craft work, spinning wool into yarn for making | my friends a couple of hats (it's wool from their sheep). I'm | not even joking! My day went so off the rails. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-03-31 23:01 UTC)