[HN Gopher] On the Idea of an Adirondack Mountains National Park ___________________________________________________________________ On the Idea of an Adirondack Mountains National Park Author : rntn Score : 40 points Date : 2022-04-09 08:08 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (www.adirondackalmanack.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.adirondackalmanack.com) | [deleted] | Spooky23 wrote: | I think New York has done something unique and positive with the | Adirondack Park, but I could see how this strategy would make | sense in the mid 60s. | | At that time, New York was projecting 30-35M residents by 2000. | They were planning for industry expansion in big centers like | Buffalo, Utica, Syracuse, etc. They didn't see the post-Vietnam | nadir and the policy changes driving migration of industry to the | South and eventually Mexico and China coming. | | Making the Central Adirondacks a Federal problem would ease the | ability to keep the timber, paper, iron mining and downstream | steel industries vital on the periphery. Those industries were | the backbone of the Lake Champlain corridor including canals, | railroads, etc. (ie lots of jobs) With the hydroelectric | potential of the St Lawrence and easy to exploit hydroelectricity | in Quebec, there was a lot of potential for development. | | Reality wasn't in alignment with that vision, and ultimately what | happened was probably for the better. The Adirondacks are | depopulating and becoming a worse place to live, but the natural | resources are protected. | [deleted] | [deleted] | Spooky23 wrote: | It's hard to build and you're competing with big money | people. As population drops, basic infrastructure (stores, | schools) start to go away. | rntn wrote: | https://mountainlake.org/a-wild-idea-full-documentary/ | rntn wrote: | The video seems to be no longer available online. The | discussion about the way the Adirondack park system was created | is well worth watching if the above program airs on your local | PBS station.. | | Below is an older 2 hour PBS documentary on the Adirondacks: | | https://www.pbs.org/video/wned-tv-documentaries-adirondacks/ | ghaff wrote: | Interestingly, a couple of the large state parks in the | Northeast (Adirondack and Baxter) have arguably held the line | on development more than national parks have in general. Not | that there's a lot in the way of national parkland in the | Northeast--although efforts are still underway in Maine in | addition to the existing Acadia. | rntn wrote: | As someone who spends a lot of time in the mountains of | western North Carolina, to the southeast of the Great | Smokies National Park, I found this discussion on the | possibility of creation of an Adirondack national park here | really enlightening. | | I am very impressed with the achievements of the Adirondack | Park Agency.. | | In WNC, there are many national forests, which serve a lot | of recreational activities, but also other uses : | | "National forests, on the other hand, emphasize not only | resource preservation, but other kinds of use as well. | Under this concept of "multiple use," national forests are | managed to provide Americans with a wide variety of | services and commodities, including lumber, cattle grazing, | mineral products and recreation with and without vehicles. | The national forests are managed by forest rangers with the | US Forest Service (USFS) under the Department of | Agriculture." | | https://www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/np-versus-nf.htm | | The land that is truly wilderness, as the Adirondack Park | Agency has achieved, even though the pressure of NYC is | much more than the pressure of Atlanta, Charlotte, | Knoxville, etc, is more than in the Great Smokies National | Park. | lianna-vba wrote: | Then vice president Teddy Roosevelt was on a hiking trip in the | Adirondacks when he received word that president McKinley had | been assassinated. It's crazy how back then the VP could be so | hard to track down. In fact, I believe the night FDR passed away | VP Truman had ditched his secret service agents to head to the | bar. | | https://www.adirondack.net/history/midnight-ride/ | ghaff wrote: | More generally, the idea that people really _should_ be on the | communications grid has been normalized in a lot of circles. I | see a fair number of people, including here, rather | uncomfortable about the fact that someone may not always be | able to reach you or that you may not be able to call for help. | | (Of course, if you talk about government VIPs, satellite/staff | mostly does provide an always on-call ability. And for others, | there are increasingly reasonable satellite options available | as well.) | rntn wrote: | Even in the eastern US, there are many remote areas where | there is no communication coverage except for satellite. | | While I think a lot of people should be a lot more | comfortable being out of communication range (and proper | planning, packing emergency gear, spares, etc can greatly | help), in recreational areas that are not so remote, the | spread of low band 5G (basically extra 4G+ coverage) really | makes the ability to work remotely (even more) valuable.. | ghaff wrote: | > the spread of low band 5G | | Also StarLink. A couple of years ago I really wouldn't have | been able to work from my dad's place in Downeast Maine. | Now I could if not always reliably. | WalterBright wrote: | If I was prez, there'd be a lot more national parks. There'd also | be "greenways" connecting them. | | I'd also make national parks out of sensitive marine areas, where | no fishing or motorized boats would be allowed. | ironrabbit wrote: | Curious, are there benefits of greenway connections compared to | allocating the same amount of green space elsewhere? | rntn wrote: | Here is a good summary of the largest efforts to make | corridors worldwide : | | https://www.planetcustodian.com/important-wildlife- | corridors... | | Here is a good (but old) recap of the (lack of) research into | their efficacy : | | https://www.biologydiscussion.com/articles/benefits-of- | conse... | TSiege wrote: | Allowing safe, uninterrupted movement of species. All | ecosystems would be (almost) entirely connected to their | neighbors, human settlement has upset this and its causing | fragmented struggling ecosystems | rntn wrote: | There are some grand efforts in this direction.. | | https://y2y.net/ | | Personally, I would love to see a corridor like this from the | Great Smoky Mountain National Park through the Nantahala | National Forest and right down the Savannah River basin with | all its dams, to - and including - the Georgia and South | Carolina barrier islands, from Charleston to the Florida | border.. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-04-10 23:01 UTC)