[HN Gopher] Mastodon for Android app is officially released
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       Mastodon for Android app is officially released
        
       Author : riffic
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2022-04-18 19:46 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (play.google.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (play.google.com)
        
       | ushakov wrote:
       | fun fact: the app was built by HN user grishka, who previously
       | worked on VK and Telegram Android clients. He's got upset with
       | the state of social media and turned to Mastodon/ActivityPub
        
       | zagrebian wrote:
       | How does the mobile web app compare?
        
       | TheAceOfHearts wrote:
       | Would love to hear from people that use Mastodon on a daily
       | basis. What is your experience like? How do you find interesting
       | people?
       | 
       | I'm on Twitter every day, mostly following artists, tech people,
       | and political shitposters.
        
         | nimbius wrote:
         | ugh, i tried. i really tried, and i really really wanted to
         | love this but eventually came to find it inherited all the
         | trash neoconservative hot takes, woke culture virtue signaling
         | and micro-aggression bellyaching that twitter has.
         | 
         | its a "federated" service only insofar as large groups of
         | admins openly advocate for, and agree to ban traffic from
         | certain servers with speech they disagree with, so thats also
         | been a sticking point with me as well.
        
       | kstrauser wrote:
       | Eh. I love Mastodon, and host a reasonably busy server. The
       | official apps are just _OK_ , though. In particular, they
       | deliberately leave out the critical "local" timeline showing
       | posts from users on that server. That's half the point of having
       | a federated network: each instance can have its own "feel "or
       | "flavor". Cutting new users off from an easy way to see what
       | their neighbors are talking about makes servers almost fungible.
        
         | riffic wrote:
         | there are multiple clients to choose from, and third-party
         | clients (as far as I know) maintain the "local" timeline.
         | 
         | The project made an intentional design decision here regarding
         | their own official client, and personally I don't have feelings
         | one way or another about that choice. It's good to hear the
         | use-case towards local timeline inclusion though.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | I've posted some links to variously decent iOS apps at
           | https://honeypot.net/post/mastodon-apps-for-ios/ . I'd
           | strongly encourage a new user to chose from one of those
           | (IMHO better) apps than to use the official, limited version.
        
       | jeroenhd wrote:
       | I love the idea of Mastodon but none of the people I follow on
       | social media are using it. I wonder if there's some kind of web
       | service that re-toots tweets from twitter so I can ditch the
       | crappy Twitter web app and slowly move towards the fediverse at
       | the same time. So far I've only seen publisher-oriented services,
       | but I what I actually want is a combined feed of tweets and
       | toots.
        
         | ushakov wrote:
         | technically it's possible to mirror tweets from Twitter
         | directly, just find a Mastodon instance which supports this
        
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         | bifrost wrote:
         | feed2toot can do some of it, but you'd need to build something
         | to automate your feed/etc.
         | 
         | Its also probably against Twitter's TOS to tweet2toot so YMMV.
        
       | 2Gkashmiri wrote:
       | I run a small 2 person family pleroma instance. I truly believe
       | fediverse to be the best thing to happen to internet in a long
       | time because just like in my case, I can have my own server with
       | anyone I like. We don't need to serve 1000 people of different
       | tastes, if I am content with people I am comfortable, why do I
       | need to be exposed like on a public platform like twitter?
       | 
       | Or Facebook which monetizes this same interaction for what
       | benefit of mine? I am getting the same/similar interaction with
       | people I care about, on my own dime.
        
       | ssl232 wrote:
       | Turns out F-Droid inclusion is pending [1]. I was surprised not
       | to see it there.
       | 
       | [1] https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/10909
        
       | riffic wrote:
       | this app is open source, code is available here:
       | 
       | https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-android
       | 
       | this joins the previously released iOS client
       | (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-ios)
       | 
       | I have no personal affiliation with the Mastodon project, I just
       | like what they're doing to liberate social networking (and there
       | are other Fediverse platforms to pay attention to, too!)
        
       | oneepic wrote:
       | I get that people love the decentralization aspect of Mastodon,
       | but... does it have better content than Twitter? I remember
       | trying it very briefly once, and the few toots I saw were similar
       | content -- some interesting info, but also a heap of
       | complaining/virtual signaling.
        
         | riffic wrote:
         | I've been reading recently a lot of people are getting better
         | engagement results than they would over at Twitter. One
         | example:
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/atomicpoet/status/1512202694391345188
         | 
         | edit: Chris has been expounding on this engagement thing, this
         | goes into more detail:
         | 
         | https://blog.peerverse.space/my-pixelfed-instance-is-a-bigge...
        
         | kstrauser wrote:
         | I believe it has much better content. The easiest way to
         | boostrap your friend group is to look at the local timeline and
         | see who posts interesting stuff, and follow them. When they
         | repost things from interesting people, follow those people.
         | Lather, rinse, and repeat.
        
           | giraffe_lady wrote:
           | ya that's just a description of how to use twitter tho.
           | what's better here other than there being a lot smaller of a
           | pool to draw from?
        
             | kstrauser wrote:
             | My personal experience has been that the most interesting
             | people I now chat with on Mastodon either 1) left Twitter
             | long ago, or 2) deliberately stayed away from it. For
             | instance, if you're into infosec stuff, Mastodon is a
             | wonderful place to be.
        
           | mattl wrote:
           | Very few people outside of open source tech and a couple
           | fandoms seem to really use Mastodon.
        
       | wirrbel wrote:
       | Did they add local and federated timeline support?
        
         | OberstKrueger wrote:
         | Based on this open issue on the repo [0], it only has federated
         | timeline support. The lead developer of Mastodon had this to
         | say with regards to not adding it to iOS[1]:
         | 
         | > The omission is intentional and I do not intend to add these
         | types of timelines into the app. They might have made sense for
         | early Mastodon in November 2016 when there were less than 20k
         | people total and all from a homogenous demographic but nowadays
         | the signal to noise ratio makes them a liability in almost
         | every aspect.
         | 
         | > [...]
         | 
         | > The local and federated timelines are not going away from
         | other apps or the web app, to be clear. I'm simply not adding
         | them to this app, and if that bothers you, simply don't install
         | the app.
         | 
         | [0] https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-android/issues/8
         | 
         | [1] https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-ios/issues/221
        
           | lin83 wrote:
           | That's crazy. Local timelines are the best part of mastodon
           | instances.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | This saddens me, and I truly believe it's because Mastodon's
           | author, Eugen, also runs the largest server, mastodon.social.
           | _Of course_ the local timeline there is utter chaos,
           | basically like the Twitter firehose. That 's absolutely not
           | the case for topical servers, like ones that specialize in
           | posts about cats, or a friend group, or a particular city. I
           | don't think Eugen opposes the idea out of malice, because he
           | seems like a pretty good guy. I think he just has a
           | particularly narrow view of what Mastodon is, as seen from
           | his perspective.
        
       | giords wrote:
       | From time to time I try Mastodon again and every time I ditch it.
       | I joined the main server mastodon.social and still as of today
       | it's pretty much impossible for me to perform effective searches
       | and find content. Maybe I'm just unable to use it, I don't know.
        
         | easrng wrote:
         | Don't bother with search. You really need to start out
         | following people you already know about, then when they boost
         | posts check if the people who wrote those posts are worth
         | following. I started following 1 person and now I follow 102
         | people.
        
         | narrator wrote:
         | Search is where a lot of these services fail badly. The search
         | on most video sites besides youtube is garbage. In fact,
         | Youtube is so far ahead that they recently made their search
         | worse to satisfy other priorities besides competing with
         | rivals.
        
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