[HN Gopher] Introducing a16z START
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       Introducing a16z START
        
       Author : picture
       Score  : 59 points
       Date   : 2022-04-18 21:49 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (a16z.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (a16z.com)
        
       | Optimal_Persona wrote:
       | I9g a16z S3T ...f2y
        
       | staunch wrote:
       | Out of dozens of fairly lame attempts by others, this may very
       | well end up becoming the most serious competitor to YC so far.
       | 
       | It'll all come down to who they get to run it, how well they run
       | it, and if they can consistently get the attention of founders.
       | A16Z certainly has the brand and money to make a real go of it.
       | 
       | I wonder if they know what makes YC special and if they can offer
       | the first head-to-head alternative.
       | 
       | (The 404'ing "more information" link isn't a great way to start
       | though :D)
        
         | gordon_freeman wrote:
         | their application seems pretty simple to fill out (in some
         | cases requiring less than 100 words of description) unlike YC
         | app so I assume they want to funnel interest from as many
         | founders as possible before deciding which apps to pick to
         | fund.
        
           | staunch wrote:
           | Which _could_ be their first mistake. YC gets a lot of signal
           | by requiring people to clearly answer so many questions. YC
           | 's questions are really good and it wouldn't have been a bad
           | idea to wholesale copy them like some other's have. Not least
           | of all because then founders could apply quickly using copy-
           | paste.
           | 
           | I suspect someone could out-compete YC just by obtaining the
           | YC application data and funding on that basis alone,
           | eschewing the interview process entirely as it very possibly
           | introduces more noise than signal. It'd take some guts
           | though, kinda like starting YC in the first place took guts.
        
       | t_mann wrote:
       | Kinda funny to see this promoted on a site hosted by Y
       | Combinator.
        
         | seizethecheese wrote:
         | Well, it's certainly of interest for those here.
        
       | binarynate wrote:
       | Based on the info available, here are some of the differences
       | between the new a16z START program and YC:
       | 
       | - No standard deal (looks like a16z will negotiate equity
       | separately with each startup)
       | 
       | - _Potentially_ double the check size (up to $1M compared to the
       | standard YC $500k deal)
       | 
       | - Much smaller batch sizes (currently 11 in START, compared to
       | 319 in YC W21)
       | 
       | - The obvious: different network connections, mentors, and track
       | records
        
         | bspear wrote:
         | A16Z's superpower is branding and getting their name out there.
         | Their fund returns are well below Sequoia & co
        
       | eganp wrote:
       | $1M in seed funding, but at what valuation? I hope the terms are
       | near market.
        
       | Xeoncross wrote:
       | > our team has received over 1,000 applications and welcomed 11
       | START entrepreneurs into the a16z family
       | 
       | 1% chance eh? Welp, I'll never be exclusive enough to make it
       | through
        
         | devoutsalsa wrote:
         | Keep in mind that most applications are not impressive & are
         | dismissed without much thought. Only a few are even interesting
         | enough for a second meeting. If you're interesting & you know
         | it, your odds are better than you think.
        
         | throwaway_1928 wrote:
         | "If you were the president of Harvard or Stanford and you
         | wanted to get a lynch mob of students, alumni, and faculty to
         | come after you, what you should say is something like this: We
         | live in this much larger, more global world. We offer this
         | great education to everybody. So we're going to double or
         | triple our enrollment over the next 15 to 20 years. And people
         | would all be furious, because the value of the degree comes
         | from massive exclusion. And what you're really running is
         | something like a Studio 54 night club that's got an incredibly
         | long line outside and a very small number of people let inside.
         | It's branded as positive sum, everybody can learn, but the
         | reality is that it is deeply zero sum." [1]
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/peter-t...
        
           | krsrhe wrote:
        
         | ceeplusplus wrote:
         | These acceptance rates are misleading. A lot of those
         | applications probably have no MVP and founders have no skills.
         | If you filter to only those people who 1) have a product with
         | some degree of traction or interest and 2) people who have
         | qualified backgrounds, either in previous startups or FAANG or
         | something else that gives them credibility, I think you'll find
         | the acceptance rate is a lot higher.
        
       | current_thing wrote:
       | One of the four investment themes: "American Dynamism: Investing
       | in founders and companies that support the national interest".
       | 
       | Haha. No thanks.
       | 
       | Are there any seed funds that invest in "supporting human
       | progress"?
        
         | seizethecheese wrote:
         | A patriotic American might say that supporting the national
         | interest actually does support human progress. There's plenty
         | of evidence against that, but some evidence for it might be the
         | immense number of people pulled from poverty under to the
         | American rules-based international order.
        
           | current_thing wrote:
           | A pacifist European might balk at the a16z brand and support
           | companies funded by a less nationalistic VC, exit their
           | liquidity pools in crypto etc.
        
       | andrewstuart wrote:
       | Anyone got a guess what the terms might be - how much quity they
       | want, if the terms are likely to be onerous?
        
       | nrmitchi wrote:
       | I've seen this shared all over today, but no where have I seen
       | any terms/valuation shared.
       | 
       | Does anyone have more information?
        
       | EGreg wrote:
       | How is this different than their other funds meant for startups?
        
         | carmen_sandiego wrote:
         | It's AH so... more hype when they want to advertise it?
        
         | staunch wrote:
         | Accepting applications from absolutely anyone "over the
         | transom" is the biggest innovation behind YC's success. It's
         | not a small thing, and something major VCs have historically
         | refused to take seriously.
        
       | binarynate wrote:
       | It's interesting to see a16z launch an early-stage accelerator
       | only a couple of weeks after Sequoia announced a similar program:
       | 
       | https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/20/sequoia-arc-outliers
        
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