[HN Gopher] K-9 Mail 6.000
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       K-9 Mail 6.000
        
       Author : tweetle_beetle
       Score  : 100 points
       Date   : 2022-04-21 17:39 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (k9mail.app)
        
       | juanci_to wrote:
       | I use K-9 on my Android phone and I'm happy with it.
       | 
       | It was recommended by FastMail (where I host my e-mail address)
       | and it's been working properly since then.
        
         | detritus wrote:
         | Ha, so it's better than Fastmail's own Android client? I may
         | well give it a go, then, as the Fastmail app (much as I love
         | their service) is 'not great'.
        
           | efsavage wrote:
           | I really like their Android and web clients. I don't use a
           | lot of advanced features, but find it to be very responsive
           | and handles everything I do very well. Prior to switching to
           | Fastmail, I used to have my mail forwarded to Gmail but much
           | prefer Fastmail's clients to Gmail now, which surprised me.
        
           | justsomehnguy wrote:
           | > Ha, so it's better than Fastmail's own Android client?
           | 
           | (This a biased personal opinion not based on a real
           | experience)
           | 
           | Judging from thr screenshots it is the same framework used by
           | many Android apps (most notably for me by Nextcloud) and it
           | is really sucks.
           | 
           | The current FastMail app is sadly dependent on gapps (AFAIR
           | FireBase dependency) but othereise it is just an SPA in the
           | guise of an Android app which works marvelous... till you
           | have the connectivity.
           | 
           | If you need an offline access to your mail then the FastMail
           | app isn't for you.
        
             | HelenePhisher wrote:
             | Hm I don't understand your point here. I do not know their
             | Android app either but looked up the screenshots and this
             | seems to be pretty similar to their iOS app, which is
             | basically a small, highly functional and incredibly fast
             | version of their website (which means you get all the
             | features like creating aliases as well). Sadly, this means
             | there is pretty much no offline capability. At least until
             | now, but I know they're working on that.
        
           | projektfu wrote:
           | I like Fastmail's app but I have different Fastmail for work
           | and home. I don't want to connect them and I don't want to
           | switch between them in one app. For now I have Fastmail for
           | work and I use Apple Mail for home, but in the past I have
           | used K9 Mail for this sort of situation.
           | 
           | I wonder why it's not permitted to have multiple instances of
           | an application with different configurations.
        
             | bowmessage wrote:
             | It is possible, with a work profile, (though I'm not sure
             | how one sets up their own profile without a corp-managed
             | device): https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/619
             | 1949?hl=en
        
               | sodality2 wrote:
               | An app like Shelter:
               | https://f-droid.org/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/
               | 
               | It's an alternative to Island, except it doesn't have
               | analytics (Insular is a fork of Island w/o that, but
               | Shelter is a newer and better app imo)
        
               | pjerem wrote:
               | I don't use Android anymore but I used to do this with
               | Shelter : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=n
               | et.typeblog.s...
        
       | the_common_man wrote:
       | Use it every day, fantasy app
        
       | alias_neo wrote:
       | This prompted me to open K.9 and just check, I was in undated
       | with a week worth of missed email.
       | 
       | I like K.9 but the notifications are extremely unreliable and I
       | don't want to have to get into the habit of checking for mail.
        
         | bklaasen wrote:
         | They're substantially improved in 6.000:
         | 
         | "Notifications
         | 
         | We ended up rewriting large parts of the code dealing with
         | notifications. The user experience isn't vastly different, but
         | hopefully most of the annoying things that you had to put up
         | with are gone now. Some examples:
         | 
         | When syncing a folder for the first time, the app no longer
         | creates notifications. That's a good thing. When setting up the
         | app, you don't want to get notifications for messages that are
         | 2 years old but happen to be unread.
         | 
         | The app no longer creates notifications when you manually
         | refresh the message list. However, you will still get
         | notifications when manually refreshing a whole account or all
         | accounts. This is so you don't miss new messages in folders
         | that aren't currently displayed.
         | 
         | When displaying the message list screen, notifications for
         | messages in that list are automatically removed. Previously,
         | all notifications belonging to that account had been removed
         | 
         | In earlier versions, going back after opening a message via a
         | notification would open the folder the message belongs to. Now
         | the Unified Inbox is opened (if the message is part of the
         | Unified Inbox).
         | 
         | Notifications for new messages are now restored when the app is
         | restarted. That's useful e.g. after a device reboot."
         | 
         | https://k9mail.app/2022/04/18/K-9-Mail-6.000
        
       | elpocko wrote:
       | Is that enough zeroes? 6.0000000000000000000000000 sounds better
       | imho.
        
         | ancientsofmumu wrote:
         | K-9 has been using 3 digits to the right of the decimal for
         | over 12 years.
         | 
         | https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/tags?after=2.107
        
         | k8sToGo wrote:
         | You could fork it and do just that
        
       | atoav wrote:
       | K9 is as good as it gets if you need a multi email android
       | client.
        
         | laurent123456 wrote:
         | For me it was freezing frequently when downloading emails, and
         | became unusable over time. FairEmail was a bit better, but the
         | UI is awful unfortunately. In the end I've ended up with the
         | Google Mail app - not my first choice but it works well with
         | multiple accounts and is easy to use.
        
           | V-2 wrote:
           | To me Google Inbox was the best incarnation of an email
           | client ever (both the mobile and web app). They have quite
           | inexplicably pulled the plug on it though.
        
             | 0xdeadb00f wrote:
             | People tell me most of Inbox's features have been
             | integrated into Gmail now. But it just isn't the same..
        
         | crossroadsguy wrote:
         | Is there an iOS port? Or comparable iOS app? (Not the official
         | Mail app please)
        
           | erinnh wrote:
           | Ive been looking for a while as well, and most iOS email apps
           | are basically cloud apps where the app dev's servers log into
           | your email for you, which I dont like.
           | 
           | Im currently testing Canary, which doesnt seem to do that and
           | so far its ok. But I K9 and Fairemail are definitely one of
           | few apps Im missing since migrating to iOS.
        
           | randomluck040 wrote:
           | I'm not sure but I'm using Outlook on iOS and it's been
           | better than the regular mail app in my opinion. No idea about
           | security and privacy though, after all I'm introducing
           | another developer into my mails which can't be too good I
           | guess.
        
             | k8sToGo wrote:
             | Outlook goes through Microsoft servers
        
         | emptysongglass wrote:
         | Not really. It doesn't support OAuth, which is kind of silly
         | (well, actually very silly).
         | 
         | I switched to FairEmail, which has too many options but
         | supports OAuth.
        
           | IceWreck wrote:
           | I use K9 mail with app specific passwords. Works just as
           | well. Takes afew extra minutes to set up compared to OAuth
        
             | yoavm wrote:
             | If you use a company account, you might not be able to have
             | app specific passwords. OAuth is your only option then.
        
           | ncphil wrote:
           | The OAuth support won me over to FairEmail
           | (https://email.faircode.eu/) as well. Was a long time K9 user
           | over several Android releases, but I guess I'm getting
           | impatient in my old age. This last time had no end of trouble
           | getting things to work and finally gave FairEmail a try.
           | OAuth support for all my accounts won me over immediately.
           | Now if Thunderbird would only make the same effort for the
           | desktop...
        
             | oats wrote:
             | I made the exact same move for the same reasons a few weeks
             | ago. The UI is a little... dense, but plenty featureful and
             | made working with required oauth for my school Outlook
             | email pretty easy.
        
             | dingdingdang wrote:
             | Thunderbird has supported Oauth2 since v38 - used it myself
             | on several occasions for migrating gmail accounts in work
             | context, works fine.
        
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       | 2Gkashmiri wrote:
       | Hey. I've been using k9 for quite some time now so I have a
       | question here, how feature complete it is now against other email
       | clients? I hear oath but other than that, is is 50% of the
       | competition? More? Less?
        
       | liotier wrote:
       | I love K-9 Mail - it makes mobile email bearable !
        
         | V-2 wrote:
         | Why is it only rated 2.9 on Play Store? The negative reviews
         | look quite articulate, it doesn't seem like coordinated
         | manipulation.
        
       | normaler wrote:
       | Currently the only project i donate to. They are great.
        
       | mike-cardwell wrote:
       | K-9 Mail is the only thing I miss after my switch from Android to
       | iOS.
        
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