[HN Gopher] I've used all the notebooks
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       I've used all the notebooks
        
       Author : thcipriani
       Score  : 195 points
       Date   : 2022-04-30 18:49 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | Ambolia wrote:
       | Two small tips that got my GTD system going on paper:
       | 
       | - Don't worry too much about having a perfect written system, I
       | always was worrying too much about having the perfect system and
       | this meant that I ended up not writing anything down because I
       | hadn't found the perfect place to put it. Don't be afraid of re-
       | writing things, think of re-writing as re-thinking, rather than
       | as having made a mistake that you are correcting. Your system is
       | an organism that evolves with as you keep thinking through the
       | things.
       | 
       | - Nested lists are a nightmare to look at, and add too much
       | context that you don't want. Nested lists are ok for project
       | planning, brainstorming, and thinking. But keep nested lists away
       | from any page that you want to look at often. Better to have 10
       | separated pages with 10 lists than 1 page with 10 sub-sections.
       | In general try to keep the system as dumbed down as possible,
       | because the point of having a written system is that you can look
       | at it when you don't feel like thinking and the system provides
       | very basic steps for your head to do (like pick one thing to do
       | from here, or remind me of all the people I am waiting for to
       | come back to me with answers, ...)
        
       | psnehanshu wrote:
       | I rarely take notes, be it on paper or on computer. It's just not
       | my thing.
        
       | kovek wrote:
       | I wish there was a way to always produce a notebook, without the
       | hassle of getting it out of the backpack without having to carry
       | it (uses 1 out of 2 hands). Same for the pen. I think finding a
       | surface can also be difficult. Anyone has ideas?
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | Perhaps you are ready for "the Hipster PDA": a small stack of
         | 3x5 notecards, kept together with a binder clip. Fits in your
         | pocket along with a pen.
         | 
         | If you want to be a bit more upscale you can get pocket-sized
         | notebooks with a loop to hold a small pen.
        
         | smarx007 wrote:
         | I would go for one of the top-wirebound Europa notebooks [1]
         | They fit in a palm or place nicely on a lap. Any pen with a
         | retraction mechanism should work fine, I prefer Uniball Power
         | Tank.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.cultpens.com/c/q/brands/clairefontaine/europa-
         | by...
        
         | jack_pp wrote:
         | Samsung Note?
        
         | mateo1 wrote:
         | I used to keep a couple pages of paper in my wallet and a small
         | pen. It wasn't that much of a hassle, but modern responsive
         | smartphones made this obsolete. At home I generally prefer
         | taking notes on paper.
        
       | beebmam wrote:
       | I used to use a notebook exactly like this, but then I became
       | fully remote. Now I use org-mode for everything in the exact same
       | way, except now it's structured and navigable and searchable!
        
       | RheingoldRiver wrote:
       | Why a reverse grid instead of a normal grid?
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Whitelines, the company who owns the patent on it, formulates
         | it as "Dark lines distract, Whitelines don't".
         | 
         | https://www.whitelinespaper.com/product/wirebound-notebooks-...
        
         | ohyoutravel wrote:
         | Personally it's easier on the eyes, like dark mode versus light
         | mode on electronics.
        
       | tandav wrote:
       | Moleskine is kinda missing :)
        
         | sgillen wrote:
         | Yea echoing the other commenter I was very disappointed when I
         | picked up a moleskin and found it felt like lower quality than
         | the cheaper non name brand I got on Amazon.
        
         | JasonFruit wrote:
         | Moleskine is expensive for what it is: high price, name with
         | reputation, medium-quality paper and binding. If you're happy
         | with the quality, you can get the same for less money by going
         | with whatever store-brand equivalent you can find, in my
         | opinion.
        
           | mbreese wrote:
           | The biggest thing going for Moleskine (which is what I used
           | when I kept paper notebooks) is availability and consistency.
           | They are widely available and you always know what you're
           | going to get. It may not be the next, but was certainly more
           | than adequate for my needs. And then I didn't need to tryout
           | half a dozen other options.
           | 
           | I'm now trying out the Remarkable tablet, which has a lot of
           | the advantages of paper, but it's not quite there yet. It has
           | the paper feel for writing, and isn't half bad when it comes
           | to "ink quality".
           | 
           | But where I think all electronic notebooks fail is data
           | locality. Meaning, when I'm searching for a note, in a
           | physical notebook, I know it's roughly halfway in, on the
           | left page, etc. As I thumb through the pages, I can tell
           | where I am in time. That experience just isn't quite there in
           | the electronic versions yet.
        
           | kergonath wrote:
           | Yeah I think that was sarcastic. Moleskine are well known for
           | being quite expensive and not too nice to write on anyway.
        
           | tuatoru wrote:
           | You must live in a notebook-rich environment.
           | 
           | Where I live, Moleskines are indeed ridiculously expensive,
           | but every other available option has tissue-thin paper and
           | heavy black lines which obscure whatever I'm
           | writing/doodling.
           | 
           | Bar one: Whitelines, which have very light grey pages with
           | white lines. But they're spiral wire bound, and I prefer
           | saddle stiched.
           | 
           | All of the non-Moleskines have square corners which are a
           | design antifeature.
        
       | nunodonato wrote:
       | I was hoping to read some comments about digital note-taking
       | devices like the Remarkable or the SuperNote. I've been
       | considering jumping ship to one of those just to save the trees
       | :) SuperNote seems really cool in all the ways it allows you to
       | write and organize your notes.
        
         | benjiweber wrote:
         | I used these Leuchtturm1917 A5, dot-grid with fountain pens for
         | years. Still love paper and pen, but have switched almost
         | completely to the Remarkable2 for well over a year now. It's
         | close enough that the infinite-capacity notebook and syncing to
         | cloud are worth the slightly worse than paper experience.
        
       | baisq wrote:
       | And what pens do you use? Because that's just as important ;)
        
         | jonsen wrote:
         | https://www.jetpens.com/blog/The-Best-Pens-for-Note-Taking/p...
        
       | lqr wrote:
       | I take notes on the lowest-tier Strathmore 9x12" spiral-bound
       | sketchbooks. I strongly prefer totally blank paper for math and
       | diagrams. The paper is plenty high-quality, you can tear out
       | pages without ruining the appearance, and they are cheap.
       | 
       | However, I don't view those notes as a permanent record. Anything
       | really important gets transcribed to LaTeX (math) or text files
       | (TO-DOs, etc.)
       | 
       | The transcribing takes extra effort. I'm not sure it's worth it,
       | but it's a good opportunity to distill things to their essence
       | and double-check logic. My future self doesn't need to wade
       | through as many dead ends when looking back later.
        
         | pacaro wrote:
         | I buy Canson sketchbooks[1] and use them for everything,
         | although mostly drawing/sketching. I can blow through them
         | pretty quickly but buying them in 6-packs isn't bad
         | 
         | The 5.5x8.5 format is portable enough, each notebook is 100
         | pages, the paper isn't too lightweight, and they're serrated so
         | tearing out a page neatly is possible
         | 
         | [1] https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00H3T4NOU/
        
       | GavinAnderegg wrote:
       | OP mentions the Baron Fig Confidant II. I personally prefer the
       | Baron Fig Vanguard Softcover Notebook:
       | https://www.baronfig.com/accessories/vanguard-softcover-note...
       | 
       | It has a sewn binding, lies flat more easily than the larger
       | Confidant II, and is more "disposable" (which the OP mentions
       | being a good thing, though I keep all my notebooks for later
       | reference). It also comes in a variety of sizes, though the
       | "Flagship" size is my go-to. I love the feeling of finishing a
       | notebook, and ones with fewer pages help me get there often. I
       | also find the soft-cover notebooks a bit easier to store than the
       | hardcover ones.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | jerlam wrote:
       | I prefer disc-bound notebooks like Staples Arc, Levenger Circa,
       | or Rollabind:
       | 
       | https://www.levenger.com/CIRCA-326/ABOUT-CIRCA-1233.aspx
       | 
       | Arc is cheap and available in person at Staples.
       | 
       | It combines the versatility of using your own paper, like a
       | three-hole-bunch binder, but with the reliability and compactness
       | of a wirebound notebook. Choose whatever paper you like, print
       | out your desired grid system, reorder pages, add tabs, etc. and
       | still have the same notebook.
       | 
       | When you need to archive pages, you can remove them from the
       | notebook and throw them in a scanner.
       | 
       | I'd say the initial cost of the notebook and punch is steep, but
       | not if you're comparing to $20 hardbound notebooks like Tomoe
       | River or Moleskine.
        
         | depingus wrote:
         | I just checked Staples website. The cheapest Arc refill is
         | $7.50 for 50 pages of notebook paper. That seems expensive to
         | me.
        
       | Arainach wrote:
       | It would be cool to see the author's notes on why they chose
       | their ratings. Their expectations roughly align with some of mine
       | but I don't know if their reasoning is the same. For instance, I
       | _love_ writing on the Rhodia spiral-bound book but the pages tear
       | out way too easily so I 've stopped buying them for that reason.
       | I also settled on Lechtturm.
        
       | hatware wrote:
       | I haven't used all the notebooks, but I am a terrible notetaker.
       | My issue is that too much in my life is digital, so adding
       | physical notebooks is avoided at all costs. The only time I
       | really used them was during job interviews (both as an
       | interviewer and interviewee).
       | 
       | For me, an iPad/Apple Pencil was the solution to writing more
       | regularly. I wonder if OP has tried the digital route?
        
       | dwg wrote:
       | Passport memo from MUJI will be a great value for some. Modeled
       | after passport: small, compact, durable cover. 24 pages of great
       | quality blank, graph, or dot grid paper. Price is about $1 in
       | Japan.
       | 
       | https://www.muji.com/jp/ja/store/cmdty/detail/4550182110340
       | 
       | Also available on Amazon (at a bit of a premium):
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/MUJI-Passport-Notebook-24Sheets-Green...
       | ($10 but appears to include 3 notebooks so about $3.33 per
       | notebook)
        
       | ShroudedNight wrote:
       | I have a similar relationship with notes - the act itself being
       | the greater part of value. And I, too, have found myself becoming
       | more of a paper snob over time.
       | 
       | The most satisfying notebooks I've found from a paper quality to
       | value perspective are these 'age-bag' notebooks from
       | Clairefontaine (90gsm A5 graph):
       | https://wonderpens.ca/collections/paper/products/center-clai...
       | 
       | The ones I drool over though are the 'bonus' notebooks from The
       | Folio Society:
       | https://mirabiledictudotorg1.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/img...
        
       | throwanem wrote:
       | And he's yet to try a Mnemosyne, which is nice, because it means
       | he's got something pleasant to look forward to.
       | 
       | My header format for work notebooks is an ISO8601 date followed
       | by title and then, when applicable, start and end times - these
       | come last, rather than adjacent to the date, because that way
       | it's easier to leave space for the end time if it's uncertain up
       | front. When the header line is complete, I highlight it with a
       | 6mm Pilot Parallel filled with liquid ink extracted by needle
       | from yellow Sharpie Accent highlighters - that nib size spans the
       | full space between lines in a Mnemosyne N195, and using it in a
       | Parallel rather than the original felt tip also keeps it from
       | smearing the Iroshizuku Murasaki-shikibu or Juro-jin with which I
       | ink my Decimo.
       | 
       | I was surprised to see no mention of indexing in the original
       | article. In work notebooks I do this religiously, because while
       | hand-writing does help consolidate memory, an index of notes
       | makes them a much more durable reference tool and makes memory
       | consolidation much less of an issue in the first place.
       | 
       | In my personal diary, I only head entries by date and time. I
       | don't always know up front what those will be about, so a title
       | doesn't fit, although I suppose I could perhaps usefully backfill
       | one on a finished entry - I haven't reconsidered my diary scheme
       | since shortly after I started the first volume in 2018, so
       | perhaps now's the time.
       | 
       | In both cases, writing makes a wonderful tool for thought. It's
       | much easier to wrestle with a large and thorny idea when I don't
       | have to keep the whole thing in my head all at once.
        
       | biztos wrote:
       | I like the article and I love the Feinman quote, but -- isn't
       | this a somewhat short list of notebooks?
       | 
       | I count more than nine types in my apartment right now, and as
       | far as I can tell I'm not particularly notebook-obsessed.
       | 
       | Anyway, in my experience as someone who (I guess?) has used a lot
       | of notebooks for note-taking, writing, and drawing, the most
       | important thing is finding the right combination of pen(cil) and
       | notebook for the task. If you have a variety of tasks you may
       | need a variety of notebooks! And allow yourself the pleasure of
       | being an unabashed partisan for your favorites.
       | 
       | For example: for taking class notes I use a little reporter-style
       | spiral notebook from iboom[0] and a Pilot Metropolitan with a
       | 0.38mm G2 ink, plus a random 0.7mm for when I have to write
       | things to show the teacher on video. For homework I use the same
       | Pilot with a larger Muji notebook[1]. But then for walking around
       | and taking notes in a cafe or bar, I usually have an
       | indestructible Kokuyo[2] in my bag, and a Mitsubishi pen that
       | goes well with it but any gel pen would do. When I'm not
       | expecting to take notes, I usually still have a little craft
       | notebook like Field Notes or similar; and when I'm doing focused
       | brainstorming or writing I usually use an A4 drawing pad, which
       | arguably is/isn't a notebook depending on the size and binding.
       | At which point I am free to bust out the Tombow Zoom and the
       | mechanical pencils.
       | 
       | But until a few years ago I spent a solid decade swearing by the
       | Hahnemuhle Tradition[3] spiral sketchbook for all things, paired
       | with a Uni-Ball Eye Micro which fits inside the spiral.
       | Absolutely worth a try if you like a toothy writing experience. I
       | stopped using them mostly because I stopped keeping my diary on
       | paper and started typing it straight into the void, er, cloud.
       | 
       | So far it looks to me like for "paper culture" it's Japan > Rest-
       | of-Asia > France > Germany > Rest-of-Europe > USA. But I'm sure
       | that's an incomplete picture.
       | 
       | [0]: iBoom might only be available in Thailand, I can't find the
       | company online, but for instance:
       | https://www.officemate.co.th/en/search/iboom
       | 
       | [1]:
       | https://www.muji.us/collections/notebook/products/recycled-p...
       | 
       | [2]: https://mykokuyo.com/products/notebooks
       | 
       | [3]: https://www.boesner.com/tradition-spiral-skizzenblock-10349
        
       | JasonFruit wrote:
       | I think it's possible to get so excited about the tool you're
       | using that you forget its purpose. I have to watch that myself
       | --- and I believe the writer here is teetering on that edge. I
       | try to hold myself to a) having a separate notebook for each
       | purpose for which I'm using one, b) having it marked
       | appropriately for its use, and c) having it be handsome. (I fear
       | I've displayed my failure to restrain myself.)
        
         | kergonath wrote:
         | > having it be handsome
         | 
         | I like the utilitarian look of the classic Rhodia. And I love
         | writing on them, of course.
         | 
         | I find nerding about with notebooks and fountain pens a nice
         | change compared to work days, when I have to nerding about HPC
         | and text editors.
        
       | franklampard wrote:
       | This is cool but personally I have to use digital note keeping
       | apps.
       | 
       | With years of exploring, I found VS Code to the best for me.
        
         | sp332 wrote:
         | Multiple text files in a single folder, or one big file? How do
         | you search or link notes?
        
       | bitexploder wrote:
       | I have been really into iPad pro and Concepts. It is really cool
       | to think, journal, note take, whiteboard, design mechanical
       | things, design software etc. all in one functional easy to use
       | piece of software. Used to be really into notebooks but I just
       | can'.
        
       | nice_byte wrote:
       | i've been using traveler's notebook for the past 2-3 years. i
       | like the fact that it's refillable, and you can even have
       | multiple separate notebooks for different things within the same
       | binding.
        
       | ces_ wrote:
       | As an avid note taker, also in ISO8601 format, "Badly Made Books"
       | make some of the best notebooks I've ever used.
       | 
       | As a bonus, their collections of notebooks range from 75-99%
       | recycled.
       | 
       | https://www.badlymadebooks.com/
        
       | prepend wrote:
       | I used to like the hardcover grid reporter moleskine and used it
       | for a long time because it fit in my front pocket and took the
       | least space on a table next to my laptop. But moleskine changed
       | paper and got thinner and the reporter grid got harder and harder
       | to find.
       | 
       | I like leuchtterm's dot but wish they had grid and reporter style
       | so they would flip up. I almost liked the rhodia as the paper was
       | nicer but it wouldn't open and stay flat so you had to hold it
       | open while writing.
        
         | kmstout wrote:
         | As a lefty, I find that the reporter's notebooks are ideal for
         | carrying out in the world. The binding stays out of my way, and
         | every pair of facing pages forms a long column that works
         | nicely for notes, snippets of code, and shopping lists.
        
       | derevaunseraun wrote:
       | Why exactly would someone spend $10-20 on a notebook with fewer
       | pages than the $3 one you can buy at the department store? Like
       | you're just paying over 3x the cost for something that's
       | essentially a commodity
       | 
       | It just sounds like people putting special branding on
       | commodities and writing up shitty blog posts as some cool trick
       | to make quick $$$
       | 
       | But hey, maybe I'm a buzzkill spoiling all the fun the shills are
       | having
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | Better paper that bleeds less and is less likely to get ripped
         | through by a sharp mechanical pencil. Better binding - spiral
         | notebooks are super cheap but if they live in your bag a while
         | the spiral starts getting crushed and tries grabbing ahold of
         | anything else in your bag, or the books next to it when it's
         | filled and on the shelf. Hardbound books can make it a little
         | easier to write in them sometimes.
         | 
         | Also having a really pretty notebook that looks cool can be a
         | small source of pleasure. I like to use ones with covers styled
         | after elaborately-bound old books, I feel like a wizard taking
         | notes in their grimoire every time I take them out, and that's
         | worth something IMHO.
         | 
         | Surely there is something in your life where you don't buy the
         | cheapest, shittiest version of it possible, but spring for the
         | nice version of. Why do you make this choice? Probably some
         | combination of the pricier one working better, being more
         | durable, looking cooler, and acting as a status symbol.
        
         | ShroudedNight wrote:
         | The ones I can buy at the department store have lousy paper
         | that will bleed through multiple signatures if I were to write
         | in it with my fountain pens. They will also cost me
         | significantly more than $3.
        
       | jl6 wrote:
       | Some years ago, I was on the margins of notebook enthusiasm, but
       | never went all-in, because I quickly discovered that while I
       | really enjoyed the physicality of notebooks, I came to dislike
       | their pre-digital limitations. I still prefer the free-form
       | capability to mix text and drawing and color and scribbles that
       | pen or pencil on paper offers, but I then scan the finished pages
       | into the computer.
       | 
       | As a result, my favorite notebook is now a pad of A4 paper with a
       | good weight, ruled, and perforated so I can easily detach pages
       | and feed them through the scanner.
       | 
       | Content warning for the following paragraph.
       | 
       | I then destroy the originals.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | ohyoutravel wrote:
         | I switch between field notes for every day notetaking because
         | they can fit in a pocket and are basically disposable but high
         | quality and are allowed in areas where electronics cannot go,
         | and my remarkable for places where electronics are allowed or
         | for more long form that syncs to my computer / Obsidian.
        
       | RugnirViking wrote:
       | I wonder whether tapping out Morse code would show even greater
       | memory than writing with a pen? Presumably there's nothing
       | specific about the act of writing itself, rather the slowness of
       | it means you have to summarize more rather than record what's
       | being said, and summarizing requires greater understanding
        
       | kabdib wrote:
       | A cow-orker of mine was maintaining several sizes of notebooks.
       | "I use small notebooks for small ideas," he said, "This medium
       | notebook [holding up a 8x11" sketch pad] for medium-size ideas.
       | At home I have a notebook as big as a coffee table -- it's still
       | unused because I haven't had an idea that big yet."
       | 
       | [Lechtturm dot-grid notebooks are fantastic]
        
       | 323 wrote:
       | I remember when I accidentally stumbled upon a $100 A5 notebook,
       | in a regular department store, but located in a finance hub. It
       | had no obvious feature to justify the price, no leather, no gold
       | leaf or anything weird. Just a good quality notebook.
       | 
       | It was quite a visceral shock to realize that obviously some
       | people do buy them. Again, it was a regular upmarket shop, not
       | some sort of billionaires exclusive hangout.
        
         | ShroudedNight wrote:
         | This was in currency more-or-less equivalent to the US Dollar?
         | Was it made of vellum!? Even as a paper snob, $100 for a
         | notebook elicits a visceral reaction.
        
       | xbryanx wrote:
       | So pleased to see the Leuchtturm 1917 dotted grid at the top of
       | this list. It's been my go-to notebook for the last few years. It
       | comes with some nice stickers for labeling so that you can find
       | past notebooks on the shelf. Lots of colors are easily available
       | on Amazon.
       | 
       | I wrap my latest notebook in a Coal Creek leather cover to look
       | all fancy (and hold my phone and pen).
       | https://www.coalcreekleather.com/collections/a5
        
         | soylentgraham wrote:
         | Same! Im about to finish a very packed notebook of 6 years of
         | stuff, I love the dots, and will be grabbing an identical one
         | next
        
         | allenu wrote:
         | The Leuchtturm is my go-to as well for the last few years. I'm
         | also glad they are very easy to source.
         | 
         | I like to have mine around for jotting ideas down and drawing
         | diagrams. I don't have a system or anything. I think I used to
         | be far more prescriptive about what I put in it but now it's
         | just a playground for my ideas and that suits me really. I
         | carry around everywhere so it's ready to be used.
        
       | vhodges wrote:
       | I've used both Leuchtturm1917 a5 (dotted) and Maruman Mnemosyne
       | N104 Special Memo Notebook - B5 dotted.
       | 
       | I like the maruman for the spiral binding (flat, less footprint
       | when folded over) and I find the paper on the Maruman to have
       | less bleed through but I wish it came with more pages. I also
       | like the slightly bigger pages the b5 gives me over the a5. I
       | still like my Leuchturm too but don't use it as much lately.
        
       | bluenose69 wrote:
       | I'm partial to Rhodia No 16 dotPad. It takes ink well, without
       | much bleed through the page or spread across the page. For
       | reference, I use a variety of inks and fountain pens, with
       | Pelikan-4001 and Waterman-graduate-allure being my go-to
       | combination.
       | 
       | I prefer the dots to either grids or lines, because they provide
       | enough guidance without getting in the way.
       | 
       | The spiral binding is convenient, and the back cover is stiff
       | enough to use on a lap.
       | 
       | The pages are not numbered, but I do that myself, with yyyy-mm-dd
       | and a title at the top-right of any new set of notes, and circled
       | numbers 1, 2, ..., on successive pages of that topic.
       | 
       | Not that anybody asked... what is it about note-taking that makes
       | people yammer so?
        
         | stock_toaster wrote:
         | Same here. After trying many types of notebooks and paper, I
         | find the Rhodia dotpad paper to be very pleasant, and it works
         | well with the other tools I like to write with:
         | 
         | * tactile turn pen (bullet slim w/Pilot G2 0.7mm refill)
         | 
         | * rotring 600 mechanical pencil 0.5mm
         | 
         | * staedtler pigment liner 0.4mm
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | lvl102 wrote:
       | I am surprised no mention of the gold standard: Tomoe River
       | 52gsm. I've tried nearly everything in the market during the
       | pandemic and they are simply the best particularly for fountain
       | pens.
        
       | fma wrote:
       | If you go to the Dollar Tree - they have tiny composition
       | notebooks that fit well in your back pocket. A pack for $1 - or I
       | guess, $1.25 now that they raised the prices. I carry a pen that
       | fits on my keychain. If I'm out and about I can jot something
       | down. If I use my phone to take notes, they never get looked at.
       | The act of taking it out of my pocket reminds me if I wrote
       | something that I need to follow up when I'm home.
       | 
       | At home/office I have rocket book. I don't use the app, though.
       | Throughout the workday I jot down notes. At the end of the
       | day/week I will consolidate anything important to the front of
       | the notebook and erase the pages.
       | 
       | I have an ipad, but taking notes with the pen just doesn't feel
       | right for whatever reason. I've yet to find a solution I like for
       | longer term notes (i.e. when reading a book).
        
       | bloopernova wrote:
       | A4 hardback Leuchtturm square dotted notebook is the best I've
       | ever used. A real joy!
        
       | jbjbjbjb wrote:
       | I just buy store brand or brands aimed at students. I obsess over
       | a lot of things but I don't get expensive notebooks. I'm just not
       | paying silly money for a block of paper to write throwaway notes.
        
         | BeetleB wrote:
         | Most student targeted books don't handle fountain pen ink well.
         | Occasionally I find a cheap notebook that does, but normally
         | you have to pay $7+.
        
           | enriquto wrote:
           | Rhodia and Clairefontaine are cheap (the notebooks with
           | simple covers) and they are the best for fountain pen writing
           | without feathering. Only surpassed by expensive japanese
           | paper.
        
             | bch wrote:
             | I'm just dipping my toe into the "expensive Japanese paper"
             | (TomoeRiver, Midori) and I think the experience (while
             | writing, and ink-fastness thereafter) might be worth it
             | imo.
        
         | smarx007 wrote:
         | Maybe "throwaway notes" is the part that makes a difference.
         | After I finish a notebook, I usually sit down and fill out the
         | table of contents for which I normally allocate 2 or 4 pages at
         | the beginning, because I will refer to those notes in the
         | future.
        
       | me_me_mu_mu wrote:
       | I've got maybe 15-20 moleskine notebooks laying around. I love
       | taking notes and I use a simple cross classic ball pen.
        
       | buescher wrote:
       | I loved the Rhodia meeting books until I got one whose pages
       | (they're perforated) all fell out. The paper is nice otherwise
       | and the format is great.
       | 
       | A blaze orange notebook - they are available from other brands
       | too - is incidentally very easy to find and hard to leave behind.
        
       | phil21 wrote:
       | I enjoy taking notes. A colleague sent me this link, so I'll post
       | here to amuse him.
       | 
       | My favorite notebook is the National Brand "Engineering and
       | Science Notebook" - which has become my go-to. [0]
       | 
       | I like to diagram, so having the reverse page be graph paper
       | makes it easier for me. I also prefer spiral bound since they
       | tend to hold up better in travel, but that's purely subjective.
       | 
       | [0] - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001E69X52
        
       | electricair wrote:
       | The author could create a digital notebook system using any of
       | his notebooks with Paper Website[1]
       | 
       | [1] https://paperwebsite.com
        
       | lunchladydoris wrote:
       | If you want to extend your journey into stationery, I highly
       | recommend the Erasable podcast [0]. It reignited my love for wood
       | pencils.
       | 
       | Stationery is such a fun and relatively inexpensive rabbit hole
       | to fall into (as long as you steer clear of the bonkers fountain
       | pens).
       | 
       | [0] https://www.erasable.us/
        
       | maleldil wrote:
       | I've used paper notebooks in the past (also for thinking), but I
       | struggled with finding my notes again. With a digital system
       | (even just plaintext files), you can use search or grep or
       | something, and find all relevant notes that contain your query.
       | 
       | I used a few paper notebooks to write down my thoughts during my
       | Master's, and it was always difficult to find where I wrote about
       | a particular experiment, paper, or anything that wasn't write-
       | only. I would figure out when I wrote about that and go through
       | the dates, but it's nowhere as convenient as grepping by an
       | author name. This made me switch to digital notes (in Obsidian)
       | for my current job.
       | 
       | How do you deal with this? I'd love to get back to paper notes
       | again.
        
         | hzhou321 wrote:
         | Only use one notebook at a time. Always write down a date
         | first, on every page if your notes spans to another page. Write
         | down your notes sequentially. Had a diagram in the middle of
         | the page? Continue notes at next page unless you are annotating
         | the diagram. It's much easier to find things when there is a
         | single media in linear form. Having mixed notes is fine. Having
         | a linear order is more important. I would write down my
         | shopping list if I am think of that in the middle of figuring
         | out an algorithm, draw a box around my shopping list, and
         | continue with my algorithm notes.
        
           | throwanem wrote:
           | Also, number all the pages except the last two, which don't
           | need numbers because they're where you will keep an index by
           | topic.
           | 
           | Even across multiple volumes, that index will serve the same
           | purpose for your notes as it does for a database, this after
           | all being whence RDBMS designers borrowed the term: an index
           | allows you to perform lookups in sublinear time.
        
         | lancesells wrote:
         | I make an index of my notes at the back of the notebook but
         | then do it again digitally. That way I have digital search for
         | physical items. If my notes were purely text I could probably
         | scan but I prefer navigating a physical book than a PDF or
         | folder of files.
        
         | FastMonkey wrote:
         | I've gone back and forth a bit between electronic and paper
         | notes. For me, electronic just can't beat the physical location
         | of paper. I know where in space a particular note is so it's
         | easier for me to hone in on it. I sketch and do a lot of math
         | and there's just no friction less way to do that in an app. I
         | think I tend to remember concepts graphically too, so searching
         | with text doesn't feel as natural.
         | 
         | Of all the note taking apps I've used though, obsidian is
         | easily the best. The graph they have for connecting notes
         | together is just great. And, I like that their storage system
         | is just plain text files, so long after obsidian is gone, I'll
         | still be able to look at them if I need to.
        
         | CPLX wrote:
         | There's a different experience of writing longhand that yields
         | to a certain kind of brainstorming that I like quite a bit.
         | 
         | I ended up buying a Remarkable 2 which is an e-paper writing
         | tablet. Sort of an expensive impulse purchase, bought off an
         | Instagram ad of all things. I love it and carry it with me all
         | the time.
         | 
         | The software is fine, not great but it works. The writing
         | experience is excellent though, it's as close to the UX of
         | actually writing in a notebook as I can imagine and I
         | definitely am happy with the purchase.
        
         | chrisweekly wrote:
         | I still use my bullet journal (moleskine paper + graphgear
         | pencil), and also use Obsidian (switched from Roam abt a year
         | ago), and have a reMarkable 2 eink tablet -- which I _might_
         | try using as a digital replacement for the bullet journal. I'm
         | sometimes bothered by the inefficiency / partial redundancy in
         | my system's current iteration... OTOH the resiliency is great.
         | 
         | My flavor of bullet journal makes it reasonably easy to find
         | stuff thanks to numbered pages, a structure that includes
         | dedicated pages separate from daily notes, and a comprehensive
         | index.
        
           | throwanem wrote:
           | > a reMarkable 2 eink tablet -- which I _might_ try using as
           | a digital replacement for the bullet journal
           | 
           | Be aware that the software on those is so limited as to make
           | indexing of any kind entirely impossible.
        
             | crowbahr wrote:
             | Based on my research the onyx boox note air 2 is a better
             | integrated solution for synchronized note taking
        
             | mbreese wrote:
             | My view is that less software is better, when it comes to
             | note taking. My frustration with the RM2 is that I really
             | don't see much of a benefit to taking "digital notes",
             | aside from the fact that I can have multiple "notebooks"
             | with me at all times. All of the electronic features (OCR,
             | searching, indexing), aren't helpful enough to make the
             | switch. But I do like the RM2, so long as you aren't
             | looking for much software help.
             | 
             | I'm personally still a bit on the fence for my RM2, but
             | leaning that direction. Having multiple logical notebooks
             | to keep meeting separate is pretty handy.
        
       | snidane wrote:
       | Nitpick about date formats.
       | 
       | 2013-02-27 is the current standard, but more so as a result of
       | "this is how we've done things" and not "this is the best way to
       | do it". The hyphens make the notation ambiguous with
       | substraction, therefore in programming languages dates are quoted
       | and represented as strings, which in turn get passed to a parsing
       | function.                   - to_date('2022-03-27')         -
       | datetime.strptime("2022-03-27", "%Y-%m-%d")
       | 
       | The obvious alternative is to use an unambigous notation from the
       | list such as dot notation. 2022.03.27 doesn't collide with
       | floating point number notation, nor with ipv4 notation, nor any
       | arithmetic operation and thus can be used to represent dates in
       | programming languages directly - without quotation and without
       | the need to stringly type them.
       | 
       | It's one of those many examples where "best practices" really
       | only mean "current common practices".
        
         | Ambolia wrote:
         | When writing on paper I personally like something like
         | "Saturday 30th of April 2022", or some abbreviation of it, in
         | addition to global context it also adds some weekly context
         | that can be nice when trying to remember when you did
         | something.
         | 
         | And some seasonal context from the month, like 06 doesn't bring
         | many associations to my head, June tells me it was probably
         | hot, and the type of atmosphere and activities going on around
         | at the time.
        
         | mikotodomo wrote:
         | The units get smaller from let to right, which is what you
         | expect. The American system doing things like month/day/year is
         | unintuitive and causes ambiguity, but if it was done in an
         | intuitive way in the first place (day/month/year), there would
         | be none.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | > The hyphens make the notation ambiguous with substraction
         | 
         | In Lisp they wouldn't, and in statically typed languages it
         | probably wouldn't be a problem either, as the compiler would
         | tell you that you can't use a date as a number.
         | 
         | On the other hand, the need for date literals in program code
         | is rare enough that it likely doesn't warrant introducing a
         | dedicated syntactic form.
        
           | kelseyfrog wrote:
           | This is why I notate using s-exprs.
        
             | dctoedt wrote:
             | Example please? (Non-programmer here; I'm sorta familiar
             | with s-exprs but can't quite picture what you have in
             | mind.)
        
               | kelseyfrog wrote:
               | (joke my-comment)
        
               | 7thaccount wrote:
               | In Lisp, operators and function calls are all prefix, so
               | this would be subtraction: (- 10 5) I think (it's been
               | awhile lol). A hyphen anywhere else wouldn't be confused
               | with subtraction. This is just a guess though.
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | I got in the habit years ago of writing dates "27 February
         | 2013" - recommended by some guidelines for lab notebooks as the
         | least ambiguous.
        
         | hammock wrote:
         | Dd mm yy would make more sense to me on a physical notepad,
         | since the more relevant info comes first, and you don't have to
         | worry about sorting
        
           | OJFord wrote:
           | To me too, but I'll write yyyy mm dd if it stops Americans
           | writing mm dd yy!
           | 
           | In fairness, they do _say_ it in that order too, so on some
           | level perhaps that really is  'the more relevant' (or
           | natural) to them.
        
         | scbrg wrote:
         | Not that it matters much, since few programming languages will
         | have date and IPv4 literals, but the form you propose _does_
         | collide with IPv4 notation.
         | 
         | IPv4 addresses in numbers-and-dots notation can contain one,
         | two or three dots.
         | 
         | 10.11.12 would mean Nov 12, year 10. _Or_ the IPv4 address you
         | 'd perhaps be more tempted to write as 10.11.0.12.
         | 
         | Perhaps we can put the pile of poo emoji to good use?
        
         | OJFord wrote:
         | Dots don't allow it not being a full date though, e.g. the
         | month 2022.04 is indistinguishable from the number two thousand
         | and twenty-two point zero four.
        
         | gregmac wrote:
         | > 2013-02-27 is the current standard, but more so as a result
         | of "this is how we've done things" and not "this is the best
         | way to do it".
         | 
         | That may be, but it's also codified as ISO 8601 [1], so that's
         | a strong reason not to use a non-standardized format.
         | 
         | > The hyphens make the notation ambiguous with substraction,
         | therefore in programming languages dates are quoted and
         | represented as strings
         | 
         | If you're hard-coding a date in code, you have other choices.
         | You can use a UNIX timestamp (uint). You can create a Date
         | object directly, eg:                   Date Created = new
         | Date(2022, 04, 30);
         | 
         | I don't know of any languages where Date is a primitive type
         | (are there any?) so having a literal notation - which I think
         | is what you're advocating - doesn't really make sense: there
         | has to be an allocation or conversion anyway. This is in
         | contrast to actual primitive types like float, int, char, etc
         | where most languages do have a literal way to express those in
         | source.
         | 
         | If you're reading a date from user configuration, you need to
         | parse at some point anyway. Otherwise, store dates as
         | serialized date objects and in your database as date-type
         | columns (or as UNIX timestamps, if date isn't an available
         | type).
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
        
           | snidane wrote:
           | kdb and similar systems have had it for years.
           | 
           | https://code.kx.com/q4m3/2_Basic_Data_Types_Atoms/#253-date-.
           | ..
           | 
           | Float is an imprecise transformation from text to a binary
           | fixed size representation. I don't see how floats would be
           | considered a native type while datetime types not.
           | 
           | Having it non-native while the option exists seems to be like
           | a voluntary torture. But it makes sense considering community
           | bubbles surrounding programming languages and not bridging
           | the gaps between them. What can be a 100 lines of Java can be
           | expressed in 20 of Python can be expressed in 5 lines of a
           | data language.
        
       | almog wrote:
       | At least for myself, using some of the fancier 80/90 gsm sheets
       | in that list (Clairfontaine for one) only makes sense if I'll be
       | taking my notes with a fountain pen (which can be a lot of fun!),
       | but with rollerball/ballpoint I'd get the same experience from
       | the cheaper Rhodia options, that would probably be just fine at
       | preventing bleedthrough (some of the fancier papers can be really
       | good at preventing feathering in just how well they render
       | present some inks).
        
       | kcindric wrote:
       | I really like using notebooks and writing my thoughts, helps with
       | ADHD and with grounding when I'm in full panic mode. I feel I
       | think more clearly and structured when my thinking is paired with
       | writing.
       | 
       | I also _love_ good quality notebooks but I feel guilty when using
       | them for everyday scribbles like meeting notes. It feels like
       | sacrilege.
        
         | djbeadle wrote:
         | I've had some luck by scribbling on the first page of every new
         | notebook. Subconsciously it is now "ruined" and safe for every
         | day use.
        
         | kzrdude wrote:
         | I use notebooks for thinking at work but I've noticed I'm only
         | ever really making progress when talking to a colleague. Now
         | that helps untangle thoughts and get from ideas into an
         | actionable plan. Even the notebook doesn't really help me with
         | that.
        
         | throwanem wrote:
         | I dedicate the very last page of all my work notebooks -
         | Mnemosyne N195As, so very nice indeed - entirely to doodles and
         | scribbles, both because with fountain pens sometimes you need a
         | sheet like that, and because sometimes a _person_ needs a sheet
         | like that.
        
           | enriquto wrote:
           | Why only a single page? Every other page in my notebooks is
           | dedicated to doodling and cool smeared fountain pein
           | inkdrops!
        
             | throwanem wrote:
             | If I'm doodling in a work notebook, that's an indication
             | that I need to either re-engage with the meeting or leave
             | it, and perhaps also have a quiet word afterward to whoever
             | was ostensibly running it.
             | 
             | If your fountain pen blots, consider a different ink -
             | Western pens have larger nibs and feeds than Japanese, so
             | tend to be very wet when filled with thinner Japanese inks.
             | 
             | It could also be due to rough handling, and probably is if
             | you tend to find ink on the inside of the cap and the
             | outside of the section - and thence of course on your
             | fingers.
             | 
             | You might also write with too heavy a hand, which tends to
             | splay the tines of the nib; this is especially likely if
             | you tend to see lines that don't properly fill with ink,
             | since too wide a space between the tines will fail to
             | sustain the capillary action that draws ink smoothly from
             | the feed to the tip. Gold nibs are especially vulnerable
             | here; if you're new to fountain pens, consider switching
             | for a while to a steel nib, which will feel somewhat
             | rougher but write just as well and be much more forgiving
             | of mistakes as you learn how correctly to use this type of
             | tool.
             | 
             | If none of these apply, the. perhaps the pen just needs to
             | be flushed and cleaned, which is something worth doing with
             | a fountain pen after every few fills at most, or between
             | different inks and especially different brands - not just
             | for color mixing reasons, but also because some inks when
             | mixed exhibit chemical behaviors that can lead to clogging.
             | And just generally, a well-maintained pen will write much
             | more neatly and reliably than one that hasn't been looked
             | after in a while.
        
         | 0xCAP wrote:
         | Oh so im not the only one? Some I love so much Im still waiting
         | on the right occasion to use.
        
       | podoco wrote:
       | my issues with notebooks is the bleed-through. i like thick dark
       | pens but they always bleed-through if you dont get a super heavy
       | weight paper, and those are a lot more expensive. whats the
       | solution, just not write on the backside of the paper?
        
       | carterschonwald wrote:
       | Yup lectchurm (I can't spell it ever ) is my personal favorite
       | too. Numbered pages and dot grid for the win!
        
       | Tao332 wrote:
        
       | soapdog wrote:
       | If any one here would like to see yet another notebook, I
       | recommend checking out Traveller's Company Notebooks. I wrote a
       | bit about them in:
       | 
       | https://andregarzia.com/2022/01/got-a-passportsize-traveller...
        
       | hzhou321 wrote:
       | > "They aren't a record of my thinking process. They are my
       | thinking process."
       | 
       | This exactly! I think with pen and notebook. I also think without
       | pen and notebook, such as during my driving and running. Without
       | notebooks, I often find myself think in circles and having hard
       | time to recall what I just realized a short moment ago. With pen
       | and notebook, it is more relaxed. Often I don't revisit my
       | notebooks. So the notebooks are mainly serving as a thinking aids
       | than to serve as a database. Replacing them with digital sounds
       | nice, but in reality it is just a distraction. Having the record
       | to go back to is a short term benefit; the few pages of notes
       | that I do end up revisit often quickly become part of paper or
       | presentations, or tweets and moments, or more often, prototype
       | code. I have accumulated a drawer of used notebooks. They only
       | have sentimental values. And they have more sentimental values in
       | paper forms than in digital forms.
       | 
       | PS: my current favorite notebook is this one
       | https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Sugarcane-Notebook-College-... A
       | hard cover and thick ring has become a necessity for me.
        
         | weaksauce wrote:
         | The notes i took in college were almost never looked at again
         | after I took them... they were more of a method to retain the
         | information. I also found that the classes where I was using a
         | laptop to take notes were the ones that I retained the least
         | from. the notes are the process.
        
           | throwaway81523 wrote:
           | One of my professors said his retention method when he was a
           | student was to take light, quick notes during lectures, but
           | then at home the same night, write out their contents in
           | complete sentences in a separate notebook. It sounded like a
           | good system for someone (not me) who is organized enough to
           | keep up with it.
           | 
           | I looked at the OP article and it seems too fetishistic for
           | my tastes. What happened to ordinary yellow legal pads, or
           | spiral bound school notebooks? For daily casual jottings, I
           | used to use paperbound pocket notebooks, but they kept
           | falling apart with use. Now I just carry a folded up piece of
           | 8.5"x11" printer paper and transcribe any content needing
           | preservation to a computer when I get around to it. The rest
           | is ephemeral and I can throw away the paper when it gets
           | full. Lately I read on Stephen Wolfram's blog that he does
           | the same thing I do. I don't know if that's a good sign or a
           | bad one.
        
             | neilv wrote:
             | Instead of that folded-up piece of paper, if you have a box
             | of business cards you'll never get through, those double as
             | wallet-sized durable scratch paper. :)
        
           | rowanajmarshall wrote:
           | Exactly.
           | 
           | If anything, computer notes distracted me from the lecture.
           | But writing out summaries from slides after the lecture was
           | invaluable, even if I never looked at those summaries again.
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | I remember buying my first Moleskine notebook in college. It was
       | my first exposure to "fashionable office supplies", a foreign
       | concept to me growing up. It was a super nice object. In fact it
       | was so nice, I didn't want to use it to just take notes in class,
       | because what a waste. I also didn't want to use it to just
       | scribble personal notes and todo lists in, because what a waste.
       | In the end, I never wrote anything in that notebook at all: what
       | a waste.
       | 
       | Now I tend to view fashionable office supplies as productivity
       | fetish items. It's easy to geek out on that stuff, but does a
       | better notebook make me more productive? Seems to make me less
       | productive, if history is an indicator.
       | 
       | Yeah, I will occasionally find myself reading reviews of
       | immaculately designed mechanical pencils, or minutely engineered
       | Japanese scissors. But I try not to lose sight of the advantages
       | cheap, lousy stuff has too: disposable, easy to replace, low
       | barrier to use. These qualities are also valuable.
        
         | adamm255 wrote:
         | I still have my first college Moleskine which also was
         | something way "too good" to waste so has about 20 pages used,
         | the rest are blank!
         | 
         | I now use free vendor notebooks from events and random pens.
         | And a PS2 flip notebook for daily to-dos.
        
           | sanderjd wrote:
           | I think the biggest advantage to buying my own stuff is
           | standardization. Nothing drives me crazier than a bunch of
           | schwag notebooks of different shapes and sizes all jumbled in
           | a drawer.
        
             | jwdunne wrote:
             | I've done this too. Quite the contrast to my disorganised
             | life. I have two types: lined and square paper. Both
             | hardback and book bound (find ring binds don't play nice
             | with me and I lose pages). Get the exact same ones each
             | time, apart from a few old ones whilst I was in my
             | discovery phase. The lined ones come in a stack of 5 so
             | always have one ready to go.
             | 
             | Also use a single type of pen: a black staedtler fine
             | liner. They in a box of 10.
        
               | sanderjd wrote:
               | Right! The "exact same ones each time" is way more
               | important to me than which ones. Or rather, the exact
               | same shape; I experiment with dotted vs. lined vs. grid
               | (though I've pretty much entirely decided on dotted at
               | this point).
        
         | sph wrote:
         | I have bought a nice leather bound notebook, the one you sit
         | down with a cup of coffee to write something important. I never
         | use it.
         | 
         | I instead just got myself a cheap detective-style notepad I can
         | keep in my pocket to write down all the crap the comes to mind,
         | everywhere I am, even while standing up. That's exactly what I
         | need.
        
           | dijit wrote:
           | The trick is to buy a nice leather sleeve for a standard size
           | of notebook, then buy cheaper inserts.
           | 
           | You might find that you enjoy the quality of paper of other
           | notebooks, but it gets you over that "this notebook is too
           | nice for my random thought"-block.
        
         | unethical_ban wrote:
         | Once you get over the "don't use them" part, they're exquisite
         | to use. Pens, I tend to agree that I like being cheap on them
         | so I can lose them and replace easily. Notebooks, I don't lose
         | because the value is the data.
        
         | lwkl wrote:
         | Moleskin Notebooks are overpriced trash. The paper is way too
         | thin and most pens I use bleed through.
        
           | thomas wrote:
           | Yes, but if you use the right pen it helps a lot! Good
           | reference: https://unsharpen.com/what-are-the-best-pens-for-
           | moleskine-n...
        
         | maskerade wrote:
         | Hahaha, it's good to read this and see its not just me. I also
         | have an unused Moleskine notebook and numerous other 'Nice'
         | looking notebooks that I never write in as I feel it would just
         | be a waste.
         | 
         | I just go for a cheap and cheerful one that I am happy to write
         | any old nonsense in
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | It really varies with the person. Personally I _like_ using
         | nice notebooks with ornate covers based on old books, with
         | metallic ink accents. Like this:
         | https://www.paperblanks.com/en/product/journals/viola/pb8116...
         | 
         | It makes me feel like a freakin' wizard to pull them out and
         | write in them. It's great. Bonus wizard points for using a nice
         | fountain pen.
        
         | rzzzt wrote:
         | There is a webcomic that mirrors your experience:
         | https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/nice-notebook/
        
       | javert wrote:
       | I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on the Zettlekasten
       | system from people who have actually used it.
        
       | diiaann wrote:
       | I love the Leuchtturm but I find that I too like something more
       | disposable. My preference now is the Kokuyo Dot Grid which you
       | can get in a spiral bound or loose pages.
       | 
       | See:
       | https://stationerymanor.com/collections/kokuyo/products/koku...
        
       | jseliger wrote:
       | So have I, and I like this one:
       | https://jakeseliger.com/2013/01/05/product-review-rhodia-web...,
       | although portability is a key concern. Field Notes are also good,
       | albeit less durable.
        
       | commondream wrote:
       | Author didn't mention Midori notebooks, and they're by far my
       | favorite. The paper is nice to write on, and the blank covers
       | give space for documenting what it's for. Pairs great with my
       | favorite pen, my Ohto Horizon.
        
         | powersurge360 wrote:
         | I am _shocked_ that Midori isn't more represented in these
         | comments. The lay-flat binding is amazing, the grid is pretty
         | cool, and the indication at the top for the grids is great.
         | Plus the price is about right compared to other premium
         | notebooks.
         | 
         | You miss out on pockets and multiple bookmarks but you can pair
         | it with a Kokuyo systemic notebook cover to cover all the
         | bases.
        
       | yeetsfromhellL2 wrote:
       | The author misses Rite in the Rain, which makes my favorite
       | notebooks, they're printed with heavy, acid-free, waterproof
       | paper. Pairs great with a Fisher pen cartridge (waterproof,
       | pressurized ink made for writing in almost any condition).
       | 
       | As for dating, I like to do something a little different; it's
       | still ISO8601 but with a slight twist. Each page top has the date
       | in basic form (eg, 20220430) and each note on that page has a
       | timestamp to describe that note and a title for the first line
       | (eg: "T1234 Groceries"), followed by the note body below, a
       | little like a git commit message. This allows me to link between
       | notes by enclosing the date and time stamp in pointy brackets. To
       | save some ink when linking, I use the date at the top of the page
       | for context. If my page top is dated 20220430, and I want to link
       | to a note from the 23rd at T0631, I write it like <23T0631>.
       | Since the year and month are the same as the context I'm in, I
       | don't bother writing those. I don't use page numbers at all.
       | 
       | Some other notebook habits I have: I like to use the first page
       | for my contact info if anyone finds my notebook (and maybe offer
       | a reward). The next page is for goals I'd like to work toward
       | during the anticipated lifespan of that book. I also like to
       | create a weekly index. When I've filled the notebook, I create an
       | index of index pages on the very last page. If I wait to index
       | the entire thing when the book is filled, I usually don't. Also,
       | I use the last few pages to create monthly calendars. I fill in
       | dates on them with letters (A, B, C...) for an event, which I
       | reference on the back side of the page, either with a short
       | description or a link to the timestamp I wrote down event
       | information on. Finally, after filling a book, I write the range
       | of timestamps that book covers in the spine so I can quickly find
       | notes in the future.
        
         | psnehanshu wrote:
         | You are way too disciplined, which I can never be. More power
         | to you.
        
           | yeetsfromhellL2 wrote:
           | If you just do the date at each page header and timestamp
           | each note to enable linking, your notes will get much easier
           | to deal with. I actually started doing this because I'm
           | fairly undisciplined and generally pretty disorganized.
        
         | neilv wrote:
         | I also like Rite In The Rain notebooks with Fisher Space Pens.
         | 
         | My only complaint about RITR is that the _feel_ of the paper
         | seems a bit odd.
        
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