[HN Gopher] When hits were stored on floppy disk and created wit... ___________________________________________________________________ When hits were stored on floppy disk and created with an Atari ST (2020) Author : assttoasstmgr Score : 35 points Date : 2022-05-01 07:40 UTC (15 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.coolsmartphone.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.coolsmartphone.com) | layer8 wrote: | Also Jesus Jones' album _Perverse_ from 1993 (five years before | Fatboy Slim's release), which I highly recommend: | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_(album) | | > Perverse [alledgedly] "enjoys the historical distinction of | being the first album recorded entirely (except for Edwards' | vocals) on computer." The band recorded the entire album onto | floppy disks in Edwards' house, which were then used on his | computer to turn the music into "zeroes and ones". [...] Although | the band were ridiculed at the time for the recording process, it | later became an influential technique. | quickthrower2 wrote: | Kudos for them calling a track "Zeroes and ones" back in 1993. | Wonder how many non-geek people knew about zeros and ones then! | tzs wrote: | I've wondered a similar than about the song "Silicone on | Sapphire" [1] from The Clash's album "Sandinista!" from late | 1980. That song is a dub version of the music from an earlier | song on that album, "Washington Bullets", but with the lyrics | replaced by a couple voices on the left and right just | speaking mostly computer geek phrases back and forth. | | [1] Yes, "Silicon on Sapphire" would have made more sense but | they used "Silicone" in the title. | classichasclass wrote: | My copy of Tangerine Dream's Optical Race proudly says in the | liner notes it was done on an Atari ST. Bet Tramiel didn't pay a | penny for that kind of product placement, either. | karmakaze wrote: | > Fatboy Slim - When hits were stored on a floppy disk and | created with an Atari ST | | Cool. I remember the ongoing, excruciating wait for the Amiga | Lorraine to be consumer ready. It was supposed to have MIDI, but | as fortune would have it, got dropped and was added to the Atari | ST that became the musicians choice. | jameshart wrote: | This triggered a long lost memory of seeing an interview with | Norman Cook in the pre-Fatboy days in an Atari ST magazine. The | internet archive knows all, so here he is, geeking out about midi | ports with Zero magazine in 1991: | | https://archive.org/details/zero-magazine-07/page/n95/mode/2... | Rodeoclash wrote: | Wow, Zero. That's a trip down memory lane. | | I spent a large chunk of my formative early teenage years | buying Zero and other magazines like it for the cover disks | (they were published even all the way down in New Zealand). | | Thanks for the article, I'll just read through the magazine | until I get to it :) | quickthrower2 wrote: | As I remember, the reason people kept using Atari and not PCs for | music is the sound capability and reliable clock timing. | | Reminds me of microcomputer programmer back on the Acorn | Electron, writing machine code that relied on the 1Mhz clock | speed for timing - so you would order the instructions so that | things happened at the right time - was fun. | huachimingo wrote: | Now you can make music with clones of trackers ported to modern | platforms: | | http://schismtracker.org/ | | https://milkytracker.org/ | | The main problem is finding samples. | nonrandomstring wrote: | I did all my sequencing on a ST Mega 4 for years using that | version of Cubase that everyone had back in the bof-bof-bof rave | music days. The reason techno musicians loved it, and stuck with | Ataris WAY past their natural life, was the MIDI timing. The UART | on the ST was clocked absolutely rock solid. Remember this was | before DAWs and so most of the gear was external - synthesisers | and samplers - so you needed really fine real-time accuracy. | Nothing else beat the Atari ST. | primitiveape wrote: | It took me a while to realize why my PC-based MIDI setup never | "felt" right. It wasn't until I replaced it with an Akai MPC-60 | style hardware sequencer that my MIDI compositions finally had | that "thing" - idiosyncratic timing that felt good and made you | bop along to the beat. | | Missed the Atari age entirely. | mattbee wrote: | I still love the story of White Town who made Your Woman in 1997: | | https://www.wired.com/1997/06/white-town/ | | _Both the single and my album were made with an old Tascam 688 | multitrack tape recorder, an Atari ST, and a free sequencer disc | I got from the front of a computer magazine because I couldn 't | afford a "proper" sequencer._ | | It's a great interview from 1997. | | Sent to a radio station and was #1 in 4 weeks. Still a banger: | | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVL-zZnD3VU | bitwize wrote: | British electronic musicians and the Atari ST went together | like James Bond and the Walther PPK. Like Lisp programmers and | Emacs. You get the idea. | | To name two of my favorites: The KLF actually special-thanked | Atari in the liner notes of _The White Room_. Imogen Heap 's | first computer was an Atari ST she got when she was 12, and she | immediately began making music on it. | daneel_w wrote: | In the 90s I spent _a lot_ of time with Cubase on my 1040STFM | alongside other MIDI sequencers on the Amiga. I found both Cubase | v2.xx and v3.10 (which I think was the last Atari version | Steinberg released) to be somewhat clumsy and slow to work with | due to plenty of editing operations, even some basic such, having | to be performed in roundabout ways, and because of Cubase being | sluggish UI-wise. The sluggishness was in some part owed to the | ST /STF/STFM being lesser hardware on the graphics side. The STe | and of course the Mega offered a better experience. Both v2 and | v3 also suffered from the problem that, while they did run on an | Atari with 1 MB of RAM, they every so often crashed from memory | leaks/shortage. RAM expansions for the Atari 520/1040 were | unfortunately a complicated topic compared to the cheap and | ubiquitous peripheral they were for the Amigas. In contrast, all | the MIDI sequencers I used on the Amiga were even on just 1 MB of | available RAM fast, smooth and efficient tools to work with. | Though none of them had the... how to put it... last pinch of | "fancy features" that Cubase offered. Nor did the Amigas have a | built-in MIDI interface, but such cost only $30 - or $10 in | components if you were handy enough to build your own. | FabHK wrote: | Maybe interesting for nostalgia: | | There is an Atari ST emulator for the Mac, | http://hatari.tuxfamily.org or brew install | hatari | johnvaluk wrote: | Hatari is also available on Linux and includes a Falcon | emulator for those of us who lusted after one but were never | able to purchase it. | aasasd wrote: | Here's also a demonstration of using a sampler and a tracker with | an Amiga, all from around 1990: | https://youtube.com/watch?v=i9MXYZh1jcs | | _"Aaaand we 're out of memory."_ | | (There's also the humor of sampling Coldcut, who themselves were | wizards of audiovisual sampling, at least for their time.) ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-05-01 23:00 UTC)