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Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]
Author : mjadobson
Score : 109 points
Date : 2022-04-30 21:02 UTC (3 days ago)
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| fatih-erikli wrote:
| I like the concept of converting a database into an application.
| I don't know why but it reminded me the Aspmaker product, I've
| been using it in highschool times and I created so many admin
| panels with it.
| fatih-erikli wrote:
| Also Delphi ecosystem had so many that kind of components such
| as DataGrid, DataView, etc. I remember at that time almost all
| the ERP, CRM applications were using Delphi and a component
| suite called Devexpress. Nowadays everybody using React :)
| pkphilip wrote:
| This is really cool! I hope this gets more traction
| mwigdahl wrote:
| I've used the Ultorg beta for some experimental data UIs in
| house. It's still early days, but the tech is sound and the
| ability to construct multiple different views into the same set
| of data is very useful.
|
| Performance is pretty good overall given the complex queries it
| may have to juggle behind the scenes.
| spullara wrote:
| Reminds me a lot of https://sigmacomputing.com
| klysm wrote:
| Feels like GraphQL graphically combined with Excel. What Airtable
| could've been.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _Ultorg: A General-Purpose User Interface for Relational
| Databases (2020) [video]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29647880 - Dec 2021 (13
| comments)
| sagarjs wrote:
| I'm honestly really blown away by this. Are there other such
| tools out there that do a similar thing?
| fatih-erikli wrote:
| Not a tool but Django admin has also a similar concept. You
| define the models as Python classes and it provides an abstract
| CRUD user interface. It also supports one-to-one or one-to-many
| joins, so you don't have to generate or write a CRUD app from
| scratch.
| anigbrowl wrote:
| https://dbeaver.io/ is an open source tool with community and
| commercial builds that's quite mature and capable. I don't like
| SQL or database administration very much so it's become my go-
| to utility if I need to look at an unfamiliar DB. I've never
| had any problems with it though I keep a copy of SQL workbench
| around as it seems to perform better on large projects.
| kostko wrote:
| Yes, tableau
| qwertox wrote:
| This is the most interesting thing related to databases I've
| seen in years.
| leetrout wrote:
| Datastation is sorta similar but in my brief experience the
| description is more aspirational at this stage.
|
| https://datastation.multiprocess.io/
| CyberRabbi wrote:
| Surprised there isn't SQLite support. Perhaps it's in the works.
| Also surprised this is a native app, would have expected a web
| application. In any case, compelling demo.
| kall wrote:
| I've been using Hasura and TablePlus a lot lately, and actually
| wished for something that combines them.
|
| Hasura is great at understanding relations and making joins feel
| effortless and TablePlus is so good at making table editing feel
| as fast as excel.
|
| This looks like it's the thing, with some extra power thrown on
| top (formulas and nested layouts are nice!).
|
| The UI looks drab, but maybe that's ok? It means the
| functionality needs to be so strong it doesn't matter. It also
| looks super snappy which matters most.
|
| Something that Airtable has over relational database GUIs is
| lightweight enums and arrays of them. Sure you can model all that
| in SQL, but it's super useful to have it right inline. I hope
| this tool can pick up on a pattern like enum tables (like hasura)
| and provide UI that makes them look like tag list/select fields.
| acmecorps wrote:
| +1 for TablePlus! I absolutely love them for the fast editing
| as well as quick and dirty filters. Beats typing SQL for simple
| stuff. These quality of life features are really underrated.
| Absolutely worth the yearly fee!
| kall wrote:
| I feel like they see themselves as a database management
| tool, but with just a few tweaks (good UI for working with
| relations), could be a FileMaker / Airtable contender.
| Esther432q wrote:
| I get paid over 65 bucks per hour working from home with 2 kids
| at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best
| friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me
| to try. The potential with this is endless. Here is what I've
| been doing>> PopLifestyles.com
| arjonagelhout wrote:
| Here's some more information on Ultorg:
|
| > Ultorg creates general-purpose software that helps
| organizations manage their data. Based on a new method for
| interactive data visualization, our product combines ease-of-use
| with expressive power to allow end-users to query, display, and
| edit relational data, without resorting to custom programming.
| This fills a long-standing gap between spreadsheets and tailor-
| made database applications. [0]
|
| I find it inspiring that it has such readable and space-efficient
| interface, compared to current trends in many web apps.
|
| [0] https://ultorg.com
| zozbot234 wrote:
| > our product combines ease-of-use with expressive power to
| allow end-users to query, display, and edit relational data,
| without resorting to custom programming. This fills a long-
| standing gap between spreadsheets and tailor-made database
| applications.
|
| How does it compare to Access or LibreOffice Base? That's
| always been the next step once the spreadsheet proves
| inadequate.
| mdmglr wrote:
| What GUI toolkit is this using? Is this native?
| nighthawk454 wrote:
| Looks like Java Swing to me, or something in that area. This
| isn't open source, but the author's github has primarily Java
| projects including an old swingx fork.
| https://github.com/eirikbakke?tab=repositories
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