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       IKEA's restaurants were failing, then it turned to Swedish
       meatballs
        
       Author : danso
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2022-05-02 13:20 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | ncmncm wrote:
       | "Swedish meatballs" are really Turkish meatballs. Just sayin'.
        
         | silicon2401 wrote:
         | Based on what evidence?
        
           | capitainenemo wrote:
           | Always hard to prove things in deep history but:
           | https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/03/europe/swedish-meatballs-
           | turk...
           | 
           | " King Charles XII took the throne in 1697 at age 15 and
           | later spent several years in Bender (now Bendery in Moldova),
           | which was under Turkish rule, before returning to Sweden in
           | 1715 - allegedly with a recipe for meatballs. "
           | 
           | (allegedly)
           | 
           | "Coffee beans and stuffed cabbage were also brought back to
           | Sweden by Charles XII, according to Turkish state-run news
           | agency Anadolu. "
        
         | leobg wrote:
         | Alex has a series about it: https://youtu.be/JViMCRQ4f44
        
           | netsharc wrote:
           | Well, guess I'm making Kottbullar for dinner this week!
        
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         | _Microft wrote:
         | The only source for that seems to be a retracted claim of the
         | official Swedish Twitter account.
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/swedense/status/992396766808035329
        
         | folli wrote:
         | Hard to believe that rolling minced meat into a spheric shape
         | and frying them has only been invented once.
        
         | bl0rg wrote:
         | Aren't you clever? Good job!
        
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         | 2000UltraDeluxe wrote:
         | Meatballs are pretty common all over the world and many
         | cultures have their own variants. The Swedish ones are quite
         | similar to the ones in the rest of the Nordics, apart from
         | their smaller size. I suspect there's as many recipies as there
         | are grandmothers.
         | 
         | G'Kar describes it well in Babylon 5:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVLkxSSvegc
        
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       | digisign wrote:
       | Love the meatballs, including the veggie varieties, and enjoy the
       | store on occasion. Even the article was decent, though a bit
       | predictable.
       | 
       | But, woo-wee there's dozens, perhaps sixty? javascript trackers
       | linked on that page. Thank god for no-script.
       | 
       | Don't think I'll be back to cnn.
        
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       | floren wrote:
       | I finally picked up a frozen bag of the famed IKEA meatballs
       | about a year ago. As a Swedish meatball enthusiast, I was excited
       | to try them, but honestly they were pretty disgusting--spongy,
       | weird texture, bad flavor. Are the ones served in the cafeteria
       | different?
       | 
       | My mother makes them every Christmas, just using ground pork and
       | a packet of premixed seasoning, and they are far superior. To
       | really go to the next level,
       | https://www.themeateater.com/cook/recipes/wild-game-meatball...
       | is a solid recipe that works well with ground elk meat _or_ pork
       | sausage.
       | 
       | All the meatballs I ate when I visited Sweden were fine, of
       | course, it's just that IKEA's were bad.
        
         | Xevi wrote:
         | I'm a Swede so I think I'm qualified to answer this. Yes the
         | meatballs served at IKEA fits your description. They are really
         | low quality meatballs.
        
         | robonerd wrote:
         | > _spongy, weird texture, bad flavor._
         | 
         | That describes every store bought frozen meatball I've ever
         | had, sponginess particularly. But if I make meatballs myself
         | and freeze them, they come out fine. Something about the way
         | factories make meatballs just isn't right.
        
         | smoldesu wrote:
         | I mostly ate it for the gravy, which was pretty solid. The
         | meatballs themselves were fine; their only saving grace was
         | that you could get quite a few of them for a reasonable price,
         | which made them attractive after checking out 50 models of
         | bedroom furniture for 2 and a half hours.
        
       | exabrial wrote:
       | I've literally gone to Ikea just to eat "Swedish" meatballs
        
         | Hamuko wrote:
         | I've gone to just buy the lingonberry jam.
         | 
         | Goes great with plain yoghurt if no one's ever tried it.
        
           | pigscantfly wrote:
           | The hardbread and raspberry gumdrops (gelehallon) are great,
           | too. I'll usually get Kalle's spread, but it's maybe not for
           | everyone.
        
       | kart23 wrote:
       | Has anyone been to an ikea restaurant recently? I think post-
       | covid they made a bunch of cost-cutting changes, because I
       | remember the food being pretty darn delightful and tasty. I went
       | a month ago and got cold mashed potatoes, disgusting veggies, and
       | just plain horrible mac-n-cheese. Also, all the silverware and
       | dishes had been replaced by single-use wooden sporks and paper
       | plates.
       | 
       | I'm probably never eating at ikea again. The meatballs are
       | decent, but you can get them frozen and they taste exactly the
       | same.
        
         | luciusdomitius wrote:
         | It is not just IKEA. Besides shrinkflation, there must be
         | something like shitficflation, because here in C. Europe, mince
         | and sausages became basically inedible over the past 12 years.
         | Which is a shame as I used to enjoy both.
        
           | RC_ITR wrote:
           | This is going to feel like a personal attack, but it's
           | intended to be commiserating:
           | 
           | Welcome to getting old.
        
             | SllX wrote:
             | Is that why eating out isn't as much fun as it used to be
             | either?
        
               | acchow wrote:
               | Yes.
               | 
               | It also becomes increasingly expensive to find
               | enjoyable/delightful food.
        
           | radicalbyte wrote:
           | I legit prefer the veggie meats to supermarket burgers/mince.
        
           | kzrdude wrote:
           | I think so, because we have seen inflation already in most
           | areas of life: rising prices (and I'm thinking of pre-2022).
           | However food has somehow more or less stayed level. Much of
           | it means we were paying the same for ever worse quality food.
        
         | Hamuko wrote:
         | How are wooden sporks and paper plates cost-cutting? They're
         | single use, so you need to keep buying them, whereas you can
         | wash silverware and dishes. And they're probably the cheapest
         | possible silverware and dishes known to man since IKEA makes
         | them.
         | 
         | Sounds more like a hygiene thing than a cost-cutting thing.
        
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           | luciusdomitius wrote:
           | IKEA doesn't make anything. Their entire competetive
           | advantage is inventing logistics 2.0
        
             | nicoburns wrote:
             | IKEA is well-known for it's innovative designs. They're
             | just focussed on cost-saving for the most part.
        
           | bobthepanda wrote:
           | Washing does require some amount of labor and water usage. We
           | don't get sodas in reusable bottles to return either for that
           | reason.
        
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       | znkynz wrote:
       | They serve them with mashed potato - in which markets? In the UK
       | they are/were served with whole (peeled) steamed/boiled potato.
        
         | Symbiote wrote:
         | At least Sweden.
         | 
         | The first picture, showing the advert outside an Ikea in
         | Sweden, says "meatballs with mashed or boiled potatoes".
        
         | callahad wrote:
         | In Belfast it's mash or chips with the meatballs.
        
         | odiroot wrote:
         | I just ate a plate with mash (very generous portion) last
         | weekend, here in south England. The other choice was chips.
        
           | znkynz wrote:
           | I've not lived in an Ikea Market since 2010, so perhaps a
           | change. I always just quite liked the non-mashed option.
        
             | soperj wrote:
             | >I've not lived in an Ikea Market since 2010, so perhaps a
             | change.
             | 
             | znkynz has had the answer to homelessness all along.
        
       | jwilk wrote:
       | Text-only version:
       | https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_d98a496fd4ba614d22b933772f...
        
       | jollybean wrote:
       | I wonder how well such a type of restaurant would do on it's own,
       | outside of an IKEA.
       | 
       | Basically Scandinavian 'fast food' - healthy but also very
       | 'hearty' and simple enough for Western tastes. The brightly lit,
       | simply decorated rooms, kind of a 'cafeteria' feel where families
       | can eat.
       | 
       | Like 'Denny's' but for middle class and urbanites.
        
         | crooked-v wrote:
         | Denny's is already for the middle class, though?
        
       | stickfigure wrote:
       | I made Kenji's Swedish meatballs recipe recently:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5cECqIFU0
       | 
       | If you ever want to enjoy Ikea food again, I suggest you do _not_
       | make this dish. It will be an unfortunate standards-raising
       | experience.
        
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