[HN Gopher] Show HN: Turing Pi 2
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       Show HN: Turing Pi 2
        
       Author : nsky-world
       Score  : 53 points
       Date   : 2022-05-05 19:03 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (turingpi.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (turingpi.com)
        
       | abetusk wrote:
       | This looks to be some electronics and housing to seat other RPi
       | modules into it:
       | 
       | """ It essentially runs up to four computers interconnected by a
       | network ...
       | 
       | The Turing Pi 2 is equipped with a 1Gbps managed switch, 2x
       | Ethernet ports, 2x SATA3 ports, 4x USB3 ports, DSI and HDMI port,
       | SIM card slot, and two mini PCIe slots ... with a variety of mini
       | PCI-e extension cards. ... """
       | 
       | Price looks to be in the $200 range ("early bird" price estimate
       | at bottom of page).
        
       | SantiagoElf wrote:
       | Self-hosted aficionados are our preppers.
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | Or they could just be computer geeks who enjoy working on
         | things like this as a hobby and get to be in control of their
         | own data.
        
       | monocasa wrote:
       | Archive.org link since they've been hugged to death.
       | 
       | http://web.archive.org/web/20220505200012/https://turingpi.c...
        
       | pettycashstash2 wrote:
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         | bearjaws wrote:
         | That means the database is very overloaded (to the point where
         | it cannot respond) most likely.
        
       | dwrodri wrote:
       | The idea of setting up my own cluster seems really cool, but it
       | always seems that I'm paying more money for less compute vs. just
       | buying a single more powerful computer. I suppose this is worth
       | it for people who'd like to physically own a cluster where they
       | can test their cluster code with a real network layer before
       | deploying that code to a data center?
       | 
       | The MSRP for Nvidia's Jetson Xavier NX 16GB module is USD500. So
       | 4 Xaviers + board is USD2200 for a combined 64GB of LPDDR4 memory
       | and 84TOPs of Compute.
       | 
       | On the other hand, I can buy an Nvidia RTX3080 with 10GB of
       | memory on the card and 238 INT8 TOPS for ~USD1000, 64GB of DDR4
       | for USD250 and the last USD1000 on whatever other parts I need to
       | get something working.
       | 
       | The only counterexample I can think of is that the cluster could
       | potentially be easier to upgrade/purchase in pieces, which would
       | be more ideal if you're broke and would like to get started on a
       | budget. And of course, there are probably some use cases where
       | the topology of the Jetson Cluster leverages its hardware more
       | effectively than the single GPU.
       | 
       | Can someone help this make sense for me?
        
         | zimpenfish wrote:
         | It's handy for me (with a Turing Pi 1) because it's one power
         | (in a flat with distressingly few power outlets) and one
         | ethernet for up to 8 computers. Like a mini-rack, if you will.
         | 
         | > On the other hand, I can buy an Nvidia RTX3080
         | 
         | Good luck with that in the UK. I know someone who ordered on
         | launch date, still hasn't got one, and has been told there's no
         | more coming from that brand...
         | 
         | [edit: to clarify that I have a TPi 1]
        
           | alimov wrote:
           | Yeah it's been tough. I went to a bestbuy in the states and
           | they happened to have several 3080 and 3080ti available...
           | while in the store I checked to see if they listed the
           | inventory online and they did not...
        
           | dwrodri wrote:
           | Very true on the note of supply. My only counterpoint is that
           | all of Nvidia's products have been supply-constrained, their
           | Jetson line included. The Jetson Xavier NX has a 10 week lead
           | time on Mouser. So it seems that if you're interested in
           | setting up a compute-heavy cluster with Nvidia products,
           | you're just SOL.
           | 
           | Honestly, I've recently gotten a surprise financial windfall,
           | and I could see myself lining up to buy the TPi 2 along with
           | with some 16GB Jetson Orin SoMs if the TPi 2 supports them.
        
       | amanzi wrote:
       | I can't see the site due to database issues, but is this using
       | Compute Modules from Raspberry Pi? If so, these are extremely
       | difficult (or impossible) to procure at the moment.
       | 
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         | zimpenfish wrote:
         | From the email I got earlier (I've got a Turing Pi), yeah,
         | sounds like it can take compute modules (they mention an
         | adapter but also say they're going to source CM4s directly from
         | RPi foundation for early supporters.)
         | 
         | > If so, these are extremely difficult (or impossible) to
         | procure at the moment.
         | 
         | I ordered 4 8GB CM3s in June 2021 and the last update I got
         | (28/04/22) was a new estimated delivery date of 30/04/22 (they
         | did not get delivered then.)
        
       | r3trohack3r wrote:
       | Any idea what the price on a fully populated board will be? I'm
       | having trouble finding it on the website.
        
         | the_common_man wrote:
         | "We are more than excited to announce the launch of the Turing
         | Pi 2 on Kickstarter on May 11, 2022, 9 AM PT. The board price
         | tag starts at $199 for super early birds, plus $10 for each
         | Raspberry Pi compute module adapter. Become the first to start
         | utilizing the immense potential of the Turing Pi 2. Hop down a
         | rabbit hole of the self-hosted revolution."
        
           | inetsee wrote:
           | "plus $10 for each Raspberry Pi compute module adapter."
           | which I assume means you are also on the hook for finding and
           | paying for however many Compute Modules you want to populate
           | this board with.
        
             | zimpenfish wrote:
             | From the email I got earlier: "Additionally, we are in the
             | process of sourcing compute modules directly from the
             | Raspberry Pi foundation, which means that we will do our
             | best to deliver Raspberry Pi CM4 to all supporters who need
             | them."
             | 
             | Paying, yes; finding, no?
        
               | Already__Taken wrote:
               | At this rate it's almost worth buying this just
               | collective bargain to get the CM4 modules alone.
        
         | dwrodri wrote:
         | Depends heavily on what you want to populate it with. The
         | existing alternative to this on the market today is this board:
         | https://www.seeedstudio.com/Jetson-Mate-Cluster-Advanced-wit...
         | which appears to run at ~USD2,200 when fully populated with the
         | most expensive modules available.
        
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       | 
       | Haven't seen this one posted yet :)
        
       | erulabs wrote:
       | Hehe excellent to see they're working on a software platform for
       | self-hosted software. We're probably their only competitor with
       | our PiBox hardware (https://pibox.io) and software
       | (https://KubeSail.com).
       | 
       | It's fantastic to see another company try to put together the
       | full self-hosting vision into a product. It's a strange emotion
       | to work on something for 3 years and then see a competitor
       | finally emerge! Best of luck and I'll be buying one asap...
        
         | dsl wrote:
         | That is a pretty shameless plug. I wouldn't put a SATA breakout
         | board in a fancy case in the same category as an actual cluster
         | backplane. That is like saying you are a Cisco competitor
         | because you got a crossover cable working between two PCs.
        
           | mastazi wrote:
           | It seems that they are doing much more than that, those
           | templates are quite cool for example
           | https://kubesail.com/templates
        
       | neoCrimeLabs wrote:
       | This will be fun to play with, even if I'm not entirely convinced
       | of its practicality.
       | 
       | It does make me wonder, if I will receive the Turing Pi2 or 4x
       | compute modules first.
        
       | filleokus wrote:
       | Looks really cool! Especially interested in their own RK3588 SBC.
       | 
       | But is this low-power / small scale clustering really worth it? I
       | run my stuff at home on a rpi4+ssd via usb and it works well
       | enough. On the software side I just use Docker compose with
       | prebuilt images and manifests for most stuff. Sure, when I
       | upgrade the distro and reboot I have some downtime, but so what?
       | 
       | If I were to upgrade I would go for some mini x86 pc just for
       | some extra horsepower and better connection for the ssd.
       | 
       | Doing a whole hardware cluster would be cool and fun, but
       | probably not useful, especially for those matching this
       | description:
       | 
       | > Additionally to that, you would need skills in server and
       | network administration to set up Linux, and software such as
       | Kubernetes and constantly manage the infrastructure running your
       | applications. Sounds complicated? Well, there is another solution
       | which is called Turing Pi 2.
        
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