[HN Gopher] Like Facebook, but smaller and "private" and "free" ...
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       Like Facebook, but smaller and "private" and "free" with no "ads"
        
       Author : robinhood
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2022-05-06 21:31 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.halloapp.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.halloapp.com)
        
       | gigatexal wrote:
       | And for this to be a viable thing how is this paying for itself
       | or how will it eventually?
        
       | rglullis wrote:
       | What can be done with this that can not be done with a personal
       | WhatsApp/Telegram/Matrix/XMPP group?
        
       | ladon86 wrote:
       | Tip: it's not an official grammar rule, but in colloquial terms,
       | scare quotes [1] are often used to indicate that the speaker is
       | being sarcastic or that the quoted thing isn't actually true. So
       | a typical American reader might infer from your title that this
       | app is not _really_ "private" or "free".
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
        
         | sjmm1989 wrote:
         | First of all, before anything. I am only replying to what you
         | have said, not directing this at you personally. Why? Because
         | that's the first I've ever seen this being said as if it were
         | something to be taken seriously.
         | 
         | " " used to be that you were just quoting someone or something
         | they said. Anyone who uses it as you stated is just a fucking
         | moron who should be ignored. I seriously hope this doesn't mean
         | shots are fired in your direction; but if so, then that's your
         | problem not mine. The first time I ever saw this being said by
         | anyone, it was by a bunch of morons who should have never been
         | let into university.
         | 
         | So.
         | 
         | Colloquial or not, just because stupid people do something on a
         | regular basis, doesn't mean we should conform to it, even if
         | they are the majority. If anything, it's more reason to shame
         | them, treat them like the dumbasses they are; and ridicule them
         | any time they speak out thinking they have a right to an
         | opinion anymore. Cause they don't. Yes, you can lose the right
         | to have an opinion. It's rare, but it can happen. It just
         | requires everyone be sick of your shit, or one person with a
         | big vendetta. lol.
         | 
         | And for anyone who needs it, no this is not sarcasm. Stop
         | fucking around with the English language just because you
         | fuckwits can't use it properly. Go read a book, like a
         | dictionary; and maybe a thesaurus while you're at it. It will
         | do you a world of good, I guarantee it.
         | 
         | P.S. Urban dictionary doesn't count. If you are using anything
         | less than an Oxford dictionary, it better be something like
         | Merriam-Webster.
        
           | cylon13 wrote:
           | Language is dynamic and flowing and changing, and it's going
           | to be whatever it is no matter how angry it makes you. Better
           | to go with the flow than to scream into the wind. Is
           | "fuckwits" proper English? Who cares?
        
         | rzzzt wrote:
         | BBC news articles are full of scare quotes then.
        
           | zem wrote:
           | the bbc usage is scare-quote-adjacent, they mean "this is not
           | us saying this, it is someone else who said it and we are
           | reporting it verbatim" (implied: we make no claims as to its
           | accuracy)
        
           | pessimizer wrote:
           | In the headlines. The journalistic use of scare quotes in
           | headlines is so they can trumpet claims without taking legal
           | responsibility for them.
        
           | vmception wrote:
           | A non American publication, exhibit a
        
       | nobody9999 wrote:
       | While I like the idea, AFAICT there's no actual web interface,
       | only access through iPhone/Android apps.
       | 
       | Which is a deal-breaker for me.
       | 
       | That said, is anyone here actually using HalloApp? If so, what
       | are your impressions so far?
        
         | nicce wrote:
         | Yep, if you want to go with privacy first, then make web
         | interface and let us believe that you at least try to make it
         | privacy friendly by allowing more user control and strict
         | sandboxing.
         | 
         | There are anti-patterns in many websites to make people to use
         | native apps - simply because it is easier to collect more user
         | data.
        
         | vmception wrote:
         | Thats because its mobile-first! Like 2016! The founders and
         | their stakeholders all agreed, trendy! Like in 2016!
         | 
         | Like Yo! But Hello, but spelled the German way Hallo! and
         | because there already is a social network (and mobile app)
         | called Hello, and other communications apps called Hello, and
         | its also cool to mispell startup names, a web 2.0 staple, like
         | last decade!
        
         | browningstreet wrote:
         | I use it to share certain activity photos with a small group
         | who aren't on Insta/F (like me). For that, it's great. No
         | expectation that it'll be around forever -- it's just real time
         | photos of us on vacation in a way that doesn't bombard
         | Messages.
        
       | geocrasher wrote:
       | I "trust" it.
        
       | agluszak wrote:
       | https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dr-evil-air-quotes
        
       | hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
       | Just took a look at the landing page, but I didn't see any
       | information on how they expect to monetize the app. Are they
       | going to charge for it?
       | 
       | I'm fine if they are charging it, but all the problems with
       | social media are pretty much a direct result of their business
       | model. So putting out something that is free, without an
       | explanation of how they eventually expect to pay for it all, is
       | not something I would trust.
        
         | nicce wrote:
         | Based on this [1] article, seems like they add subscription
         | later. I have also seen some mentions about paid features, so
         | maybe subscription unlocks them.
         | 
         | [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/19/22584551/halloapp-
         | private...
        
       | ouid wrote:
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