[HN Gopher] PowerToys - open-source Windows utilities
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       PowerToys - open-source Windows utilities
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 419 points
       Date   : 2022-05-08 15:12 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | bsnnkv wrote:
       | If Fancy Zones is too basic for you, especially coming from
       | Linux, you might like komorebi[1], a fully scriptable, bspwm-
       | esque automatic tiling window manager for Windows 10+.
       | 
       | [1]: https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi
        
         | fleaaa wrote:
         | GlazeWM[1] and FancyWM[2] is also pretty nice, albeit not as
         | stable as Fancyzone.
         | 
         | [1]: https://github.com/lars-berger/GlazeWM
         | 
         | [2]: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/fancywm-dynamic-tiling-
         | win...
        
       | Timothycquinn wrote:
       | At least windows explorer has some great extension utilities like
       | File Menu Tools; a tool that can be configured to cover pretty
       | much every file explorer extension usecase you can imagine.
       | 
       | OSX and XDG (Gnome etc...) based systems have nothing close last
       | time I checked.
        
         | jasomill wrote:
         | In OS X, Automator lets you add Finder context menu options
         | that can, among other things, trigger AppleScript actions that
         | can, in turn, run arbitrary (command-line and GUI) programs.
         | These actions can optionally be configured to only appear for
         | certain file types.
         | 
         | Recent Finder versions relegate custom actions to a "Quick
         | Actions" submenu by default, but you can restore an action to
         | top-level by removing the "NSIconName" entry from the action's
         | _Info.plist_ in ~ /Library/Services.
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | macOS has Services, which I think are meant to serve much the
         | same function.
         | 
         | https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...
         | 
         | (EDIT: I was "posting too fast". In the meantime, I think that
         | jasomills has pointed this out
         | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31305652).)
        
       | jimnotgym wrote:
       | Worth installing just for the image resizer
        
         | yread wrote:
         | Try IrfanView it has a very powerful batch feature (the UI
         | looks like it was designed by a programmer though)
         | 
         | https://www.irfanview.net/tutorials/bartosz_makuch2/images/i...
        
       | LegitShady wrote:
       | fancyzones is great for utrawide monitors. I've been using it for
       | years and once you create your own layouts you can snap windows
       | to fill them with easy shortcuts (click and drag the window +
       | hold shift), and windows will remember the layouts later and keep
       | them.
        
       | doomlaser wrote:
       | This reminds me of one of my favorite features from the Mac:
       | Quick Look -- press space to instantly bring up a big contextual
       | preview window of the selected document in the Finder.
       | 
       | You can bring it to Windows with this useful open source tool:
       | https://github.com/QL-Win/QuickLook
        
         | jjeaff wrote:
         | I've noticed that in windows 11, the file explorer shows a
         | document preview, at least for certain documents when selected.
        
           | bobbylarrybobby wrote:
           | Quick look is more than just a preview, it's really a read-
           | only view of the document. You can read entire documents and
           | PDFs, view HTML files rendered, pan through CSVs, etc
        
           | filmgirlcw wrote:
           | Yes, there are plugins for the preview pane and some are
           | built-in. That's very nice, but I prefer having the ability
           | to hit space to preview because of 15 years of muscle memory
           | doing that with macOS.
        
         | filmgirlcw wrote:
         | Yes! Love this for Windows, there are plugins for it too,
         | similar to the plugins for macOS. Like you, QuickLook is one of
         | my favorite and most-used macOS features and I cannot be on a
         | system without it.
         | 
         | Between this project and PowerToys, the Windows experience is a
         | lot more enjoyable.
         | 
         | PowerToys Run especially (essentially Alfred or QuickSilver for
         | Windows), is much faster and better than standard Win-S
         | searches.
        
           | Geezus-42 wrote:
           | Keypirahna
           | 
           | https://keypirinha.com/
        
             | mixmastamyk wrote:
             | Fish or cocktail?
        
         | s1291 wrote:
         | On Linux, I use Gnome Suchi.
        
         | jiripospisil wrote:
         | I use this all the time. While the preview window is open, you
         | can even use keyboard arrows to move to other files (or just
         | select them with mouse) and the preview gets updated.
        
           | dtgriscom wrote:
           | You can also:
           | 
           | - Command-Delete to delete the current file
           | 
           | - Return, type a new name, and return, to rename the current
           | file
           | 
           | In both cases the view will properly update.
        
         | wildrhythms wrote:
         | I love Quick look on Mac OS! You can also use it within dock
         | stacks- hover over an item in an expanded stack and press
         | space.
        
         | benjaminpv wrote:
         | It's easily forgotten now, but in the 95 and 98 eras Microsoft
         | actually bundled a utility called Quick _View_ [1] that added a
         | quick preview to the context menu. It got lost in the XP
         | transition and I have to wonder if they thought that the
         | changes that came along with the IE-ified version of
         | explorer.exe (image thumbnails, document previews in the
         | sidebar) replicated enough of the functionality that it wasn 't
         | necessary anymore (they didn't).
         | 
         | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_View
        
         | umutcnkus wrote:
         | I have remembet that when the preview window is active, if you
         | double click the document it will open in relavent app. It
         | seems to gone at some point. Any idea?
        
           | maleldil wrote:
           | That's if you're using Finder's embedded preview on Columns
           | mode. If you're using Spacebar to preview, there will be a
           | button on the top right corner to open in the relevant app.
        
             | umutcnkus wrote:
             | Actually I'm almost sure that was working with both options
             | before. Weird. Thanks anyway!
        
       | stjohnswarts wrote:
       | If you are in the market for alternatives, I highly recommend
       | Process Hacker in lieu of the powertoys version.
        
       | DiabloD3 wrote:
       | I highly recommend the new PowerToys. It's like the old one you
       | remember from the 2000/XP days. This article covers my thoughts
       | pretty well; always weird to see your own thoughts echoed back to
       | you.
        
       | apson wrote:
       | I literally have a AutoHotkey script to make windows to stay
       | always on top. This is great!
        
       | Zardoz84 wrote:
       | Many of these things come out of the box on a Linux distro :
       | Always on top, color picker, File explorer add-ons, keyboard
       | manager, "mouse utilities" and "the Powertoys run" (a poor
       | imitation of krunner could do)
        
         | stardenburden wrote:
         | Poor is exactly what it is. The converter is so broken, that a
         | space in the wrong place will cause it to not work. IIRC
         | something like 5m to ft works but not 5 m to ft
        
       | k__ wrote:
       | I'm using fancy zones.
       | 
       | Without it, Windows would be a nightmare to use on a 45" display.
        
         | zeeZ wrote:
         | Fancy zones and the double Ctrl to find the cursor are pretty
         | much essential for me on an ultrawide.
        
       | Someone1234 wrote:
       | PowerToys is great, in particular PowerToys Run.
       | 
       | I'd use PowerToys Color Picker more, but it lacks contrast
       | ratios/accessibility information, which is where it would be most
       | useful to me. It was suggested on their GitHub but didn't gain
       | much traction:
       | 
       | https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/9357
       | 
       | https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/14454
       | 
       | 9 times out of 10, I am getting color information to run these
       | exact checks, so it would just save an extra step.
        
       | tveyben wrote:
       | I like powertoys, especially 'fancy zones'!
       | 
       | But Explorer is something I stopped using more than a decade ago
       | when I encountered TotalCommander - that I cannot do without!!!
       | 
       | The regex-supporting live-preview batch-filenaming utility alone
       | is awesome.
       | 
       | I work so much faster (with the keyboard) than will ever possible
       | in Explorer!
       | 
       | I could write for hours about the greatness of TCM, but as that's
       | a little off topic here I won't :-)
        
         | anilakar wrote:
         | FanzyZones is absolutely essential if you're using large
         | monitors.
        
           | dr_kiszonka wrote:
           | I use FancyZones as well but I get annoyed that it doesn't
           | seem to preserve custom layouts between reboots. I have to
           | switch to my layouts manually after every reboot. Have you
           | experienced it too? I am curious about whether it is
           | something on my end or not.
        
             | anilakar wrote:
             | FancyZones seems to forget currently selected layout every
             | time it is updated and every time a new Windows developer
             | preview is installed. Other than that, it should be exactly
             | as you left it.
        
             | di4na wrote:
             | It has a setting to remember. If it does not it means you
             | have a problem with display detections
        
         | jpeter wrote:
         | PowerToys has a batch rename utility that is integrated into
         | explorer
        
         | ZoomZoomZoom wrote:
         | Don't forget about its Free Software counterpart - Double
         | Commander.
         | 
         | Cross-platform, feature packed, constantly updated, Lua-
         | scriptable, supports TC plugins, written in Free Pascal.
         | 
         | https://doublecmd.sourceforge.io
        
         | ApostleMatthew wrote:
         | I've totally fallen for Directory Opus. Most powerful file
         | manager I've ever used, and I've only used a fraction of its
         | features.
        
       | iamkroot wrote:
       | Wait, is this an official MS utility?
       | 
       | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/
       | 
       | Why aren't these just bundled by default??
        
         | AmVess wrote:
         | I tried a few of them and they flat out didn't work. I guess MS
         | has decided its OS already has too much garbage.
        
         | thrwyoilarticle wrote:
         | A lot of these things seem like they could cause extreme
         | confusion for a low-ability user.
        
           | slantyyz wrote:
           | Which would be easily resolved by having them off by default?
           | 
           | Having said that, I don't know how window snapping being on
           | by default isn't incredibly frustrating for someone who is
           | simply trying to precisely position a window near a corner
           | only to have it snap in a way they didn't want it to.
        
         | judge2020 wrote:
         | Many things in 11 were at least inspired by powertoys, like
         | window groups and snap layouts[0], although these are non-
         | customizable.
         | 
         | 0: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/snap-your-
         | window...
        
         | das_keyboard wrote:
         | Probably because changing stuff in the main OS is pretty
         | complex and needs approval from many different actors at
         | Microsoft. Releasing a simple utility application on the other
         | hand should be much easier and isn't bound to any release
         | cycle.
        
           | 13of40 wrote:
           | Yeah, is it localized to eleven fallback languages, and
           | accessible to blind people, and included in the security
           | threat model? Including anything in Windows costs serious
           | money, so for some niche features you might need to install
           | an out of band, less supported package.
        
         | filmgirlcw wrote:
         | As I mentioned here
         | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31305712), because it's
         | targeted at a different audience and because it being separate
         | allows it to be iterated and experimented with more quickly.
         | When you have an install-base as large as Windows, you have to
         | be careful with what you include as a built-in feature versus
         | what is an add-on or option (even first party), because a
         | change made for one class of users could be confusing or
         | detrimental to another. This is particularly true when it comes
         | to utilities and features that are iterated on in public and
         | with great frequency. PowerToys occasionally ships with bugs or
         | crashes that are completely acceptable and manageable to the
         | audience of power users (and are usually fixed very quickly),
         | but that could be much more of a problem if shipped to 1
         | billion users (and the steps you'd need to take to test against
         | edge cases would slow down development, and the development
         | speed is one of the best parts of PowerToys).
         | 
         | You can install it through the Microsoft Store, WinGet,
         | Choclatey, Scoop or directly from GitHub. It would be nice if
         | there was maybe a pointer to it inside the OS to alert some
         | users of its existence, but the premise was similar to the OG
         | PowerToys, which were downloadable off of the Microsoft
         | website.
         | 
         | As I said in the linked comment, stuff from PowerToys does get
         | upstreamed into the Windows shell, sometimes with modifications
         | or refinements, but some of the utilities are things that
         | wouldn't necessarily make sense to be included by default.
        
         | no_time wrote:
         | I was about to say "because of the maintenance burden and
         | separation of core and extra features" but then I remembered
         | that half the stuff they added since win2k is borderline
         | useless.
        
           | gjvc wrote:
           | win2k was peak windows; all it needed was 64-bit support and
           | cleartype
        
             | spookthesunset wrote:
             | And support for high DPI displays, and Bluetooth, and
             | modern Wi-Fi, and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm
             | forgetting!
        
               | lwkl wrote:
               | PowerShell, BitLocker, SSH, WinRM, Appx and msix and MDM
               | integration come to mind. I don't want to go back to the
               | days where managing Windows meant clicking around in
               | GUIs.
        
               | gjvc wrote:
               | my win32 needs are more modest than yours :-)
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Fancy Zones, a tiling window manager_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20895031 - Sept 2019 (163
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _PowerToys: Windows system utilities to maximize productivity_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20890828 - Sept 2019 (126
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _PowerToys - Windows system utilities to maximize productivity_
       | - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19845287 - May 2019 (29
       | comments)
        
       | Timothycquinn wrote:
       | A great OS Utility is Path Copy Copy
       | (https://pathcopycopy.github.io/)
        
         | kevingadd wrote:
         | FYI, if you shift-right-click files in explorer there is a
         | 'copy as path' option (why this is hidden by default is
         | mysterious to me). Not nearly as useful as that utility, but
         | good to have if you can't install extensions!
        
       | texaslonghorn5 wrote:
       | > It was first introduced for Windows 95,
       | 
       | I had no idea it was there for that long!
       | 
       | Honestly, from their perspective it probably makes sense to keep
       | it separate from the main OS if they like keeping it open source.
        
         | zamadatix wrote:
         | Windows ships many open source components these days be it
         | first party (Calculator, Windows Terminal, WLSG) or third party
         | (wholesale like OpenSSH or just libraries used in components).
        
         | drdec wrote:
         | That wouldn't stop them from shipping it by default.
        
         | filmgirlcw wrote:
         | The OSS stuff doesn't really have anything to do with it.
         | 
         | The genesis of PowerToys was to provide a way to create
         | utilities for power users that could be quickly iterated in
         | public. When it's part of the core OS, that makes
         | updates/iteration harder (hence, why Windows Terminal, WSL2
         | beta, calculator, Notepad and some other components have moved
         | to getting updates in the Microsoft Store separate from the
         | main OS. So you can run an older IT mandated version of Windows
         | but still ostensibly have a newer version of a certain
         | component), and with stuff like PowerToys, the intended
         | audience is different than the standard OS user, who may not be
         | comfortable with things that can change more frequently.
         | 
         | That said, the feedback from PowerToys and some of those
         | components has been upstreamed back into core Windows.
         | 
         | The improved window management stuff in Windows 11 is a less-
         | advanced version of Fancy Zones (FZ has more features and
         | options), and the same is true for the universal mute button in
         | Windows 11, that started out as a PowerToys feature.
         | 
         | (Disclosure: former Microsoft employee (currently at GitHub)
         | who knows the PowerToys team well)
        
           | texaslonghorn5 wrote:
           | Good to know, thanks for your insight!
        
         | lhoff wrote:
         | Its a little more complicated. While its true that there was a
         | Powertoys apllication for win95 the current one is not related
         | to that. It's more like a spiritual successor with not direct
         | heritage.
         | 
         | The first release of the current applicaiton was 2019. The wiki
         | article is quite detailed:
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PowerToys
        
       | azalemeth wrote:
       | Many, if not most of these tools contain functionality that is
       | built into other major OSes, and had been for a long time. I
       | don't really understand why Microsoft doesn't include them by
       | default.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | gmueckl wrote:
         | It's probably a combination of 1. retaining backwards
         | compatibility with applications that don't interact well with
         | these features and 2. exposing users to behaviors that are hard
         | to understand and undo once they are activated by accident.
        
           | nickjj wrote:
           | Number 2 is fun, I get a call from relatives at least twice a
           | year because their screen was rotated 90 degrees from a
           | keyboard shortcut that was hit when a cat walked across their
           | laptop when the lid was left open. The crazy thing is it's
           | happened 4 times now.
        
             | Forge36 wrote:
             | Is that a Windows feature? I know Intel's graphics driver
             | does Ctrl+alt arrow.
             | 
             | It can be turned off.
        
               | tveyben wrote:
               | It it's the default config - thus 99% will have it
               | enabled...
        
             | frutiger wrote:
             | > The crazy thing is it's happened 4 times now.
             | 
             | So it should be back to normal!
        
               | tveyben wrote:
               | Spot on !!!!
        
           | hnlmorg wrote:
           | It's not a backwards compatibility thing, PowerToys has been
           | a thing since Windows 95 and we've seen breaking changes in a
           | few iterations of Windows since.
           | 
           | The clue is in the name "Power" -- it's additional
           | functionality for power users. Since Windows generally caters
           | for the lowest common denominator, features like this would
           | be deemed too complicated (sometimes even dangerous) for some
           | folk. So it is an optional addon for power users.
           | 
           | It's just like how WSL, PowerShell, etc aren't installed by
           | default either.
        
         | transcriptase wrote:
         | Instead we get "Paint 3D", "Mixed Reality Portal", and "Your
         | Phone". Absolute essentials that I'm certain are chart-toppers
         | in the telemetry activity charts.
        
           | com2kid wrote:
           | I'd guess Your Phone is a direct response to iMessage on
           | MacOS.
           | 
           | It'd be more useful if it worked with any messaging app that
           | was running on my phone though!
        
             | kevingadd wrote:
             | It at least used to work with LINE and Discord for me, but
             | I gave up on using it because it's so damn buggy and the
             | Windows side of it uses like 4GB of RAM. And both of those
             | have native desktop clients I can use instead.
        
             | drittich wrote:
             | It seems to - I routinely use it for SMS and WhatsApp, as
             | well as it being a handy way to grab a photo off your
             | phone.
        
         | HWR_14 wrote:
         | Most of the tools are gated behind obscure key combos _and_ are
         | useless for many people. Why not make people install them if
         | they want them? The cost of installing them is less than the
         | cost of learning the hot key memorizations.
        
         | megaman821 wrote:
         | That is not true. I use both Windows and Mac a lot and I have
         | about an equal number of OS level plugins.
         | 
         | * PowerToys Awake - Amphetamine
         | 
         | * PowerToys FancyZones - Moom
         | 
         | * PowerToys Run - Alfred
         | 
         | * EarTrumpet - Rogue Amoeba SoundSource
         | 
         | * Windows Terminal - iTerm
         | 
         | * QuickLook - Mac Native Functionality
         | 
         | * Nothing for Windows - HazeOver
         | 
         | * Windows Native Functionality - Bartender
         | 
         | * Snipping Tool - Clean Shot X
        
           | dukeofdoom wrote:
           | Do you know of one for ImageResizer?
        
             | megaman821 wrote:
             | For Mac; select the images you want, right-click, select
             | tools, adjust size.
        
           | maleldil wrote:
           | * PowerToys Run - Alfred
           | 
           | * Windows Terminal - iTerm
           | 
           | * Snipping Tool - Clean Shot X
           | 
           | These are not fair comparisons. The Mac tools you list here
           | are much more powerful than the Windows counterparts, and
           | there are good enough built-in alternatives (Spotlight,
           | Terminal and the default screenshot tool).
           | 
           | * PowerToys FancyZones - Moom
           | 
           | This isn't fair either. FancyZones is much more powerful;
           | Rectangle is a better comparison.
        
         | Spooky23 wrote:
         | I think it's about turf inside Microsoft.
         | 
         | By keeping little toys like this outside of the main Windows
         | feature set, they stay out of the 500 review and design steps,
         | where any of 5000 people can kill the feature.
         | 
         | There's a lot of politics too. Something like a unmute button
         | may be "owned" by the liaison to the Teams program management,
         | who in turn want universal unmute to be an Azure service that
         | is incorporated into "Azure Live Office Solutions for Windows
         | (Govcloud) for Business E7".
        
         | philliphaydon wrote:
         | Considering the 2nd most used desktop OS is MacOS and you can't
         | even maximise a window properly out of the box...
        
           | tveyben wrote:
           | Did you try to Alt-click on the green button?
        
             | maleldil wrote:
             | It's not the same experiece as maximising on Windows.
             | AFAIK, Zoom expands the window to match the content size,
             | and many apps seem to not think you need the full screen.
             | 
             | The only way to replicate the Windows behaviour of truly
             | maximising is to use third-party tools like Rectangle.
        
             | philliphaydon wrote:
             | It's the same feature. Zoom. As it's called in MacOS. And
             | it resizes vertically only most of the time.
        
           | foobarchu wrote:
           | Double clicking any unused portion of the title bar will
           | maximize a window within it's current space without going
           | full-screen (the green button). It's not the most intuitive
           | way to do it, but that's a far cry from being impossible out
           | of the box.
        
             | [deleted]
        
             | skeletal88 wrote:
             | Yes.. but how would I know it had I not read about it here?
             | I have to use macs at work and it's filled with "WTF?"
             | moments. Like why the hell would I want to make something
             | fullscreen with the green button on the window title bar,
             | when coming from linux/windows I expect it to maximise the
             | window.. and window maximising is done by some weird
             | incantation.
             | 
             | Installing of applications is done by dragging them into
             | some place, and then there is no feedback about what is
             | happening. And so on and on.
        
               | spookthesunset wrote:
               | You just kind of get used to it. Each OS has its own
               | quirks. Some of them start to make sense as you "grow
               | into" the new OS...
        
               | dvtrn wrote:
               | > but how would I know it had I not read about it here?
               | 
               | Presumably you've been a windows user long enough, or at
               | least exposed to Windows enough times to have figured out
               | you can double click a title bar in _that_ operating
               | system and maximize a window, so it's probably not too
               | far of a stretch to guess you would have figured it out
               | in macOS by simply _trying to do the same thing_
               | 
               | Agreeably macOS is highly opinionated when it comes to
               | "discovering" some of the hidden interaction features,
               | but come on. You really wouldn't have had _any other way_
               | to figure how to embiggen a window without without having
               | to come to HN and read the above comment?
               | 
               | That feels like an extreme example for the sake of being
               | oppositional
        
             | philliphaydon wrote:
             | Sorry. Double clicking doesn't consistently maximise. Half
             | the time it resized vertically only. So it's not a far cry
             | from impossible out of the box.
        
         | Wowfunhappy wrote:
         | I actually think it's bad for an OS to include too many
         | features out of the box. Basically every modern platform has
         | already gone too far in this direction, making computers more
         | difficult for casual users to understand.
         | 
         | Vendors should include only the bare essentials, then let users
         | who want more add their own extras.
         | 
         | Imagine an OS similar to the original Macintosh, or maybe early
         | versions of iOS, but with add-ons that can add features to the
         | global UI. New users have a basic system with easily-understood
         | behaviors, and experienced users can enable the features they
         | need.
         | 
         | In an alternate universe where I believed it was possible to
         | compete with the major vendors, this is the platform I would
         | build...
        
           | ziml77 wrote:
           | I actually find it strange how many people I'm seeing crap on
           | PowerToys because you get the features out-of-the-box on
           | other platforms.
           | 
           | First off, macOS is missing its own features such as three-
           | finger tap to middle click and window snapping, and what you
           | get on Linux is going to vary based on your DE.
           | 
           | Second, building something in adds bloat for people who don't
           | use it and can kill off choices of third-party options that
           | might do the feature (subjectively) better (I still see
           | people mad that Apple killed Sherlock by building their own
           | version of it in)
           | 
           | I like the idea of something pluggable, but also with sane
           | and disableable default features that 98% of users will be
           | totally fine with.
        
           | na85 wrote:
           | Disagree. Fancy features are awesome for "normies".
           | 
           | iPhones have a feature where you can create PDFs page by
           | page, using the camera as a scanner. After you snap the photo
           | it offers you a crop and transform tool, and does a little
           | image recognition to assist you and make the edges of the
           | crop tool snap to the page within the photo.
           | 
           | I've found that feature immensely useful in a professional
           | context and (it was a company device) when I gave the phone
           | back I seriously considered switching away from Android for
           | my personal phone.
           | 
           | Little things like that, baked into the OS, make for a really
           | awesome UX.
        
             | Wowfunhappy wrote:
             | Wouldn't it make more sense for the scanning feature to be
             | its own app, so that users can find it, know what it is,
             | and not activate it accidentally?
        
               | servercobra wrote:
               | I've only used this in the Files app, which makes sense
               | because you're making files. I'm not sure if it exists in
               | the camera app as well.
        
               | Wowfunhappy wrote:
               | This to me is actually a problem with how iOS works
               | versus traditional desktops. Almost everything you create
               | is a file, so you could justify putting almost any
               | feature in the files app.
               | 
               | The files app should be exclusively for
               | listing/moving/copying files. Files themselves should be
               | created by and opened with different apps.
               | 
               | This isn't to say apps shouldn't be able to talk to the
               | files app. On macOS, for example, apps can install
               | QuickLook plugins.
        
               | na85 wrote:
               | > Wouldn't it make more sense for the scanning feature to
               | be its own app, so that users can find it, know what it
               | is, and not activate it accidentally?
               | 
               | It's been a few years since I had that phone so the
               | details are a bit fuzzy but I seem to recall it was very
               | discoverable from the email attachment interface, at the
               | very least.
               | 
               | Problem with a separate app is that it's a separate
               | codebase and thus easier for it to fall to neglect.
        
               | Wowfunhappy wrote:
               | > It's been a few years since I had that phone so the
               | details are a bit fuzzy but I seem to recall it was very
               | discoverable from the email attachment interface, at the
               | very least.
               | 
               | That's great if I'm sending an email, but what if I want
               | to upload the documents to a website, or send them via
               | iMessage, or Airdrop them to another Apple device, or
               | print out the scan to effectively make a second paper
               | copy? Do you add the icon to each of these interfaces,
               | taking up screen real estate and adding mental load? (One
               | new icon is never a problem, but do it 30 times and
               | you'll be in a bad spot.)
               | 
               | IMO, Apple's strategy significantly railroads users,
               | while making interfaces ever-more complicated.
               | 
               | > Problem with a separate app is that it's a separate
               | codebase and thus easier for it to fall to neglect.
               | 
               | Yeah, bundling everything into iTunes worked really well
               | for Apple, didn't it? :D
               | 
               | I really don't think we should be making UI decisions
               | based on this.
        
               | na85 wrote:
               | >Yeah, bundling everything into iTunes worked really well
               | for Apple, didn't it? :D
               | 
               | I'm not really an "Apple Guy" so it's not clear to me
               | what you are referring to.
        
               | Wowfunhappy wrote:
               | Over the course of more than a decade, Apple kept adding
               | features to iTunes until the app become horribly slow,
               | confusing, and buggy. Just about everyone hated it.
               | 
               | When Apple finally killed the Mac version of iTunes on
               | stage at WWDC, they basically admitted that they'd tried
               | to cram in too much functionality, by joking that they
               | were considering a Calendar and Web Browser.
        
           | krono wrote:
           | Windows is so far past that point now, could just as well
           | pile these on too < edit: I'm actually positive about these
           | tools, MS could do with a little less focus on consumer
           | usecases I think.
        
           | JadeNB wrote:
           | > Vendors should include only the bare essentials, then let
           | users who want more add their own extras.
           | 
           | This used to be appealing to me, back when the open-source
           | model seemed to be viable even on macOS and Windows. Now any
           | look at the app store will show you apps performing the most
           | basic, should-be (and often is!) bundled, functionality that
           | cost $5 apiece. No slight against developers, who have a
           | right to make a living, but if I just dropped thousands of
           | dollars on a computer and then had to pay $5 for each small
           | convenience feature I wanted, it would definitely be a
           | significant downgrade in experience. I don't live in the
           | Windows ecosystem any more, but the macOS freeware ecosystem
           | has significantly degraded (and it's not just a matter of "I
           | have to use something old"--due to architecture changes, most
           | of the old stuff doesn't work any more, and, understandably,
           | even if the original maintainer is still keeping it up, they
           | now often charge for the product).
        
             | Wowfunhappy wrote:
             | I absolutely agree about these problems!
             | 
             | But, that's why I think it's great that PowerToys is made
             | by Microsoft. Just because a feature isn't included in the
             | base OS doesn't mean the same company can't create it.
        
       | bubbab wrote:
       | I use PowerToys just for the easy key remapping, which I wish was
       | a built-in feature in more keyboards. Works very nicely as a
       | simple alternative to AutoHotKey. My RSI has gotten a lot better
       | by just remapping Caps Lock to Ctrl.
       | 
       | If any PowerToys feature deserves to be added to Windows, it's
       | gotta be the Keyboard Manager.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | It still doesn't support app-specific key remappings though (as
         | opposed to app-specific keyboard shortcuts). This issue has
         | been open since 2020, I'm not sure what they are waiting for:
         | https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/6756
         | 
         | In the meantime I'll stick with AutoHotkey.
        
         | whywhywhywhy wrote:
         | Key shortcut remapping should absolutely be a base feature of
         | every single OS for accessibility reasons.
         | 
         | Back when I used to use Adobe Fireworks there was a shortcut
         | for flattening the current selection, I believe it was
         | cmd+ctrl+shift+Z and I'm pressing this hundreds of times a week
         | and eventually it gave me RSI.
         | 
         | After this happened I remapped it to cmd+F, luckily the app had
         | the ability to do that but honestly I consider it important
         | enough that the OS should provide it. I know a lot of windows
         | users point to AutoHotKey but it's a horrible janky feeling
         | hack and requires you to write actual scripts.
        
           | samstave wrote:
           | 100%
           | 
           | And it should be a global panel for all installed apps..
           | 
           | With a tab for each app-map, and the ability to export/import
           | a settings file.
        
             | oneplane wrote:
             | It is, minus the built-in import/export (but plists can be
             | copied): https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-
             | help/mchlp2262/12....
        
           | joe_guy wrote:
           | Windows has support to remap keys built in, there's just no
           | UI for it oddly. I think it was added in 2000?
           | 
           | https://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/06/the-ultimate-guide-to-
           | keyb...
        
           | oneplane wrote:
           | In macOS at least you can remap any key as well as keyboard
           | shortcut (both globally and per-app) from the built in OS
           | keyboard preferences. The only thing it requires is that the
           | thing you want to change has a "menu item" (so a named thing
           | in the top menu bar in any of the submenus). Hotkey mapping
           | works by simply mapping to any of the texts in those (sub)
           | menus, however deep you want to go. The great thing about it
           | is the developer of the app doesn't need to do anything to
           | allows that, and it essentially only gets broken if an app
           | goes out of its way to be as non-native as possible (i.e. if
           | it doesn't even use the standard libraries that ship with the
           | OS).
        
         | pletnes wrote:
         | It's a great feature. It doesn't always work 100% stable
         | though. Would love to see it put further into the OS somehow.
         | Macos key / modifier remaps are much more stable than
         | powertoys'.
        
       | billybrocas wrote:
        
       | NelsonMinar wrote:
       | PowerToys Run is fantastic as an app launcher. Not quite as good
       | as Alfred on MacOS but then nothing is. There's a bunch of
       | similar apps for Windows (I used to use Hain) but none ever
       | worked quite right for me, PowerToys Run does though.
       | 
       | FancyZones is awfully nice too for just putting a window
       | somewhere at a reasonable size and location.
       | 
       | As other folks have noted SysInternals is another similar rogue
       | Windows product by Microsoft. Process Explorer from there is
       | indispensible, as is Autoruns.
        
         | tbezman wrote:
         | Wishlist feature for PowerToys Run
         | 
         | The ability to search for an application and bring those
         | windows into focus. This is my primary way of switching between
         | applications (except for the terminal which I have bound to
         | Ctrl+Shift+Space). It's much easier for my brain to just type
         | the first two letters of the app I want to focus then to
         | remember the state of the app switch history.
        
           | moogly wrote:
           | This is "built into" PowerToys Run. In fact, at the beginning
           | that was all it could do.
           | 
           | It's now been moved into a bundled plugin named after the
           | original app that was morphed into this: WindowWalker. I
           | don't remember what the special character you have to type to
           | target the plugin is because I made my installation of
           | PowerToys Run use that plugin by default without a prefix and
           | I disabled all the other plugins.
        
             | artimaeis wrote:
             | As of the version I have installed (0.58) WindowWalker is
             | included by default in the results of the PowerToys Run
             | results. To target windows specifically the default
             | character is `<`.
        
           | mariusmg wrote:
           | This works with Wox + Switcheroo plugin. Here is how it looks
           | in action :
           | 
           | https://i.imgur.com/O9ubcEF.png
        
         | afterburner wrote:
         | Finally, a replacement for Launchy, down to the easy calculator
         | feature!
        
         | joaoco wrote:
         | Alfred is one of those tools you only realise how valuable it
         | is when you don't have it. I use it every day and really
         | struggle without it when on Windows
        
         | mariusmg wrote:
         | >but none ever worked quite right for me
         | 
         | Try Wox, it has built-in integration with "Everything".
        
           | sascha_sl wrote:
           | PowerToys Run is Wox.[1]
           | 
           | 1: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-
           | us/windows/powertoys/run#attri...
        
         | V-2 wrote:
         | I quite liked Launchy and I can recommend it. This being said,
         | it's inexplicable to me why this particular feature isn't
         | supported on Windows out of the box. The nearest equivalent
         | (search feature in the Start menu) is pretty bad.
        
         | 1vonzhang wrote:
         | Listary is pretty much the best I've encounter on Windows.
         | Fuzzy search for all applications & files with dynamic ranking
         | of results based on usage habit + possible customization with
         | search engines. When I'm on a laptop of someone else, Listary
         | is the one that I miss so much.
        
         | Geezus-42 wrote:
         | https://keypirinha.com/
        
           | acemarke wrote:
           | I'd used FindAndRunRobot for many years, but recently got a
           | new laptop and was reviewing my usual list of utils and tools
           | during the setup process. Came across Keypirinha, and it's
           | great! I probably didn't take enough advantage of FARR's
           | configurability before, but the same is true for KP atm - I
           | really just use it for launching apps, not searching files or
           | anything else. But, KP is working great for me so far and I'm
           | happy with having switched to it.
        
         | Liquix wrote:
         | GNU/Linux users may be interested in rofi [0] or the more
         | spartan dmenu [1]
         | 
         | [0] https://github.com/davatorium/rofi
         | 
         | [1] https://tools.suckless.org/dmenu/
        
           | skirmish wrote:
           | Wofi [2] is inspired by rofi but is Wayland native. Works
           | very well for me with Sway.
           | 
           | [2] https://hg.sr.ht/~scoopta/wofi
        
         | robertwt7 wrote:
         | What's the difference between alfred and spotlight? I always
         | yse spotlight for launcher and app switching and it's great
        
         | asimpleusecase wrote:
         | Never heard of Alfred before, just looked it up. Will try it
         | out this week.
        
       | hilbert42 wrote:
        
         | randomhedgehog wrote:
         | What browser and version are you using?
        
           | hilbert42 wrote:
           | Lightning 5.1.0 with JS enabled and no other 'nasties' in
           | place (no browser spoofing etc.) on Android 7.
           | 
           | Its fork SmartCookieWeb evokes the same reaction. There are 5
           | different browsers on this phone including two of those
           | suggested, (Firefox and Chrome) but I wouldn't even bother
           | trying them on this site on principle.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | thisismyswamp wrote:
       | I use the window zoning thing all the time to center windows at
       | less than full width on my ultra wide screen.
        
       | Slikey wrote:
       | Isn't it ironic that the operating system called "Windows" offers
       | one of the worst window management user experiences?
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | Deltitt wrote:
         | I would like to have multiple desktops like MacOS but windows
         | has snaps which MacOS doesn't has.
         | 
         | While I like my awesome more on a laptop, every is can be
         | configured one way or the other to feel similar across OSes.
        
           | megaman821 wrote:
           | Windows does have multiple desktops. Win+Tab to add and move
           | between them.
        
             | Deltitt wrote:
             | Wow never seen this.
             | 
             | Tx :D
        
           | InvaderFizz wrote:
           | In case you are unaware, there are multiple snapping
           | utilities for macOS.
           | 
           | I use BetterTouchTool, but there are many tools that
           | accomplish the same thing as far as window snapping is
           | concerned.
           | 
           | Here is an article that goes over many options:
           | https://techwiser.com/snap-windows-on-macos
        
           | readams wrote:
           | Windows does have multiple desktops. It was new in win10 I
           | believe.
        
         | adam_arthur wrote:
         | Out of the box windows management for MacOS is much worse than
         | Windows, so not sure I follow? Power Toys does make Windows 10x
         | better though... and they really should make it the default
         | once it's fully stable.
         | 
         | I used to prefer MacOS for development, but Windows has far
         | surpassed it in recent years, between native linux experience
         | in WSL and better QOL tooling via Power Toys. The removal of
         | vertical taskbar has been pretty annoying though... pretty
         | awful on a 49" monitor. All that's left now is to get some 5nm
         | chips in Windows machines
        
           | Zardoz84 wrote:
           | Simply try a native Linux install. You will find far better
           | that "our way or the highway" behavior of Windows and OSX .
        
             | withinboredom wrote:
             | That assumes the kernel supports the hardware. There's
             | nothing more annoying than only having a left speaker work,
             | or WiFi not working, etc
        
             | adam_arthur wrote:
             | You get "native" linux on Windows with WSL. It's a linux
             | container, but with nice integrations out of the box re:
             | networking etc.
             | 
             | I'm not against running linux alone per se, but to me being
             | able to run both Windows (with better app support, polish),
             | and Linux at the same time is kind of the best of both
             | worlds. Windows feels nicer as a daily driver, and can do
             | all dev work directly in a linux environment
        
               | xen2xen1 wrote:
               | Keep thinking I need to use X from a Fedora box to my
               | windows desktop. OK, now to look into that..
        
               | bladegash wrote:
               | I am a big fan of WSL and used it extensively for a while
               | across multiple development environments. Also like using
               | Windows a lot and feel more productive on it than Unix
               | based systems.
               | 
               | However, I started to run into a lot of issues with the
               | file systems being a bit too commingled though,
               | especially when using things like VSCode's WSL
               | integrations where you're regularly reading/writing to
               | the Linux file system from Windows (or vice versa).
               | 
               | I guess I mention this to say that I ended up putting
               | Ubuntu on a Hyper V VM and it was a huge improvement. If
               | you enjoy WSL, but need something a bit less integrated,
               | I highly recommend it. Using VSCode's remote
               | container/host extensions work just as well (if not
               | better for things like Docker).
        
               | adam_arthur wrote:
               | Hmm was this for WSL v1? The previous implementation had
               | pretty bad filesystem performance, but I haven't had any
               | issues with WSL2. I host an app where I write gigs of
               | data to disk every day without any perf issues.
               | 
               | But WSL1 would've been super slow for the same use case
        
         | alar44 wrote:
         | No, but there is probably some law of the universe that states
         | if there is a thread about Windows, a neckbeard must say that
         | some feature of Windows is the worst thing ever.
         | 
         | I've actually never heard anyone mention Windows windows
         | manager because the only people in the world who care don't use
         | Windows.
        
         | dagw wrote:
         | How do you figure? As someone who recently switched to Mac I
         | found that the out of the box windows management on Windows was
         | far superior to MacOS. I needed to install a whole bunch of
         | third part tools to make MacOS usable.
        
           | haswell wrote:
           | I agree that window management is poor in vanilla macOS. But
           | fixing this just involves choosing a single tool, e.g. Moom,
           | Magnet, etc.
           | 
           | Out of curiosity, what other tools do you use?
           | 
           | I do find this a bit annoying, but on the other hand, it
           | gives me some flexibility to choose the style of window
           | management I prefer through choice of utility.
        
             | adam_arthur wrote:
             | The real question is why has Apple not implemented snapping
             | behavior after ~10 years of it being in windows? But yeah,
             | you can achieve something similar with tooling for sure.
        
               | haswell wrote:
               | That's a completely fair question, I'm just curious why
               | the parent comment required a bunch of tools.
        
         | mdavis6890 wrote:
         | I think Windows window management is better than Mac, and I use
         | both (and Linux too) throughout every day.
        
         | pizza wrote:
         | I just want tmux splits at the operating system UI framework
         | level that works across all operating systems without any
         | hassle. Basically i3wm for Linux, Mac, _and_ Windows, with the
         | same keyboard shortcuts.
        
         | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
         | Can you explain your claim?
         | 
         | For me, Windows 11 has one of the best window management
         | experiences out of the box, far ahead of MacOS and in line
         | Linux.
         | 
         | The ease of resizing, snapping and tiling windows out of the
         | box is really well implemented in Windows 11 so I really don't
         | get your claim.
        
           | sascha_sl wrote:
           | Features that take advantage of multiple desktops are
           | nonexistent. I don't think a tool to assign applications to
           | specific desktops exists even outside the built-in stuff. And
           | setting 1-2 apps as full-screen desktop is something I really
           | liked about macOS that's not available. Before Windows 11,
           | desktops didn't even have unique wallpapers.
        
             | adam_arthur wrote:
             | You can assign apps to specific desktops, and you can
             | maximize a window if you want full screen. How else do you
             | expect it to work?
        
               | sascha_sl wrote:
               | "Assign" as in open an application on a specific desktop.
               | Windows 11 kind of got that (automatically, unfortunately
               | no manual control) for multiple monitors, but macOS has
               | it for virtual desktops too. It'd be even better if it
               | supported something more explicit like i3 layout loading,
               | but it can probably be combined with fancyzones at that
               | point to get that working reasonably well.
               | 
               | macOS also has a way to treat an application (or two,
               | with a split view) as a virtual desktop, where the shell
               | disappears and wouldn't allow you to open additional
               | windows on that desktop. I particularly want this
               | seperation because I put VMs on different desktops, but
               | because the shell is there I inevitably have to drag over
               | some windows that opened on that desktop over after a few
               | hours of mindless use.
        
       | coderintherye wrote:
       | Since I so rarely see a Windows thread, perhaps folks wont mind
       | me asking: What utilities or code would you leverage if you had a
       | use case to run a program on a Windows machine once a day and
       | look for any CSV/XLS/XLSX files and then copy those to another
       | server? (With full knowledge of the owner of said computer, they
       | are just lacking in proficiency to do anything even as simple as
       | connect Box Sync)
        
         | 616c wrote:
         | To piggyback on the Powershell and scheduled tasks cement:
         | robocopy and scheduled tasks so how I did this years ago for
         | years.
         | 
         | Built into windows since Windows 7 iirc.
        
           | coderintherye wrote:
           | I've used robocopy + task scheduler before actually for this
           | use case but as far as I could tell robocopy doesn't have a
           | way to search across directories to find files but rather
           | just gets set up on a particular directory.
           | 
           | Maybe something in Powershell to find the files and then copy
           | them into a folder which is then set up with Robocopy?
           | 
           | Note, I have no access to the computer itself and the users
           | are incapable of doing much beyond downloading a .exe file
           | and installing a program, so whatever is done has to be as
           | close to simple as that for them.
        
         | majkinetor wrote:
         | There are number of alternatives.
         | 
         | 1. Just powershell in a loop working as a service 2. Task
         | Scheduler 3. Rundeck 4. Pode
         | 
         | WinScp is awesome for linux, and you can use simple PowerShell
         | remoting for windows.
        
         | greatpnwfood1 wrote:
         | classic batchfiles scheduled via Windows Task Scheduler, use
         | WinSCP (free)
        
         | cshokie wrote:
         | The Windows Task Scheduler is probably the way to go. You can
         | create tasks that run on a variety of schedules or events. They
         | can run a script that does what you need.
         | 
         | There is a PowerShell module for managing scheduled tasks. It
         | should be possible to write a script that will create the
         | appropriate scheduled tasks on behalf of the non-proficient
         | user. They just need to run the PowerShell script once to get
         | things going.
        
           | coderintherye wrote:
           | Thanks, but is there a way to do that without having access
           | to the computer or having to try to walk the user through
           | setting up a task in task scheduler? The users in this use
           | case can do something as simple as download and install a
           | .exe program, but there is no way they would manage setting
           | something up in Task Scheduler.
           | 
           | I've used Task Scheduler via remote desktop (which itself was
           | a pain to get them able to set up) to set things up for them
           | before but that is not scalable.
        
             | cshokie wrote:
             | Yes that is what the PowerShell module is for. You can
             | script things like 'New-ScheduledTask' and give it the
             | appropriate parameters. The only thing the user would need
             | to do is run the script. That could create the scheduled
             | tasks and drop the "real" scripts where the scheduled tasks
             | can find them.
             | 
             | It can be helpful to send along a tuple of {PowerShell,
             | cmd} where cmd just forwards arguments to PowerShell. That
             | way you can run "PowerShell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass
             | myscript.ps1 %*" and avoid the pain of changing the system-
             | wide security policy for PowerShell scripts. (Unsigned
             | PowerShell scripts are blocked by default).
        
         | eightysixfour wrote:
         | Powershell and Task Scheduler. Are you looking in particular
         | directories or across the whole system?
        
           | coderintherye wrote:
           | Anything in C:/ essentially, because there is no standard
           | place to where different users keep their associated files.
        
         | mandeepj wrote:
         | SyncToy - https://filehippo.com/download_synctoy_64/
         | 
         | It's not actively maintained though
        
           | coderintherye wrote:
           | Thanks! Any idea if it can be customized ahead of install?
           | Trying to walk these users through setting it up themselves
           | would be unlikely to succeed. They can install a program, but
           | likely not succeed in customizing what the program does.
        
       | fleaaa wrote:
       | I've been waiting for the feature that I could move focus between
       | window with keyboard in fancyzone. It would be the last stroke
       | for a beautiful product.
        
       | octagons wrote:
       | Fancy Zones makes my day-to-day so much more convenient. I wish
       | there was an equivalent in Linux that worked as well - I've tried
       | a few gnome plugins but always been disappointed.
        
         | samstave wrote:
         | Winery+arrows change the location/min-max of a window.
         | 
         | Win+shift plus arrow moves window to each monitor
         | 
         | Three finger swipe on track pad give you open windows as
         | displayed on each desktop, with ability to drag window to
         | whatever desktop.
         | 
         | I keep three desktops, all with a different wallpaper so I know
         | which desktop for what.
         | 
         | All work windows on D1 - research - d2 - and primary app I'm
         | using if needs full screen on d3.
         | 
         | The only problem is forgetting to switch desktop when you
         | switch mental modes.... Like opening a bunch of HN links in
         | your app desktop...
         | 
         | So just redraft them from whatever to wherever.
         | 
         | I'll check out fancy...
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | What I also like, is I have two external USB monitors for my
         | laptop..
         | 
         | And I have a diff display layout depending on which of the
         | additional screens I have plugged in. It remembers the location
         | of each.
         | 
         | So when I have just one screen plugged in, the second is to the
         | right.
         | 
         | When both are connnected: it knows that one is right and one is
         | up above.
        
         | Jenk wrote:
         | i3/bspwm/dwm (x11) or sway (wayland). FancyZones is a poor
         | imitation (but still worth using compared to not) of those
         | window managers.
        
         | loeg wrote:
         | KDE has Windows-style snap-to-halves or quarters by default. If
         | you're happy with those basic zones, it definitely works well.
         | I don't know if there's a way to configure more complex zones.
        
           | Zardoz84 wrote:
           | KDE had it BEFORE Windows 8.1/10 copy it.
        
           | arendtio wrote:
           | A few months ago I tried a few KDE kwin scripts.
           | 
           | Ultimately I went with 'Ultrawide Windows' [1], mostly
           | because I like it better than the defaults and at the same
           | time it is still simple to use. The Github page gives an
           | impression of its capabilities and lists the hotkeys, but it
           | is also available via the KDE integrated tools [2]. What I am
           | still missing is a tool to simply define and use custom
           | layouts.
           | 
           | [1] https://github.com/lucmos/UltrawideWindows/
           | 
           | [2] https://store.kde.org/p/1276605/
        
           | Symbiote wrote:
           | I'm not aware of a more advanced built-in mode than the 8
           | zones (corners + sides). It's in Settings - Workspace
           | Behaviour - Screen Edges.
           | 
           | There are plugins (Window Management - KWin Scripts) that add
           | options, I see Tiling, FlexGrid, KWin QuickTile, and several
           | more.
        
           | indymike wrote:
           | KWin Scripts is where all the magic snapping is hiding in
           | KDE.
        
         | t0astbread wrote:
         | Probably not exactly what you're looking for but i3 could be
         | worth checking out. It's a tiling window manager with a
         | powerful customization/scripting interface and it has a feature
         | to save and restore window layouts. There's also Sway which is
         | similar but based on Wayland though it does not have the
         | save/restore feature.
         | 
         | Granted they might not be as easy to set up as installing
         | PowerToys on Windows if you have specific expectations. (But
         | it's not rocket science either.)
        
           | xen2xen1 wrote:
           | Isn't I3 terminals only? Am I just missing something?
        
             | t0astbread wrote:
             | Maybe you're thinking of tmux which splits your terminal
             | into multiple panes and can look similar.
        
             | vladvasiliu wrote:
             | No, i3 is a full, graphical, window manager, for graphical
             | applications.
             | 
             | https://i3wm.org/
             | 
             | As GP said, by default, it's _automatic_ , so there are no
             | pre-defined "zones". But it can be scripted to do quite a
             | lot of things.
        
         | desi_ninja wrote:
         | Windows 11 has snap layout feature which is very similar to
         | fancy zones
        
         | di4na wrote:
         | Imho the best approximation for gnome is pop_os Windows manager
        
       | tough wrote:
       | The new best launcher app for mac is raycast.app by miles though.
       | 
       | Alfred was king but no more
        
       | claimred wrote:
       | Speaking of cool Windows utilities for SysInternals Suite is an
       | absolute winner. ZoomIt in particular is fun to use during demos
       | 
       | https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/sysinternals-suite/9...
        
       | bschne wrote:
       | These are great, but with some of them I cannot help but wonder
       | why MSFT would choose not to include them in the OS by default.
       | They seem fairly unobtrusive and like they wouldn't add too much
       | complexity to the product in return for what you get in terms of
       | better usability and/or additional functionality.
       | 
       | Of course you could argue that you _always_ have to be very
       | careful not to overload and bloat your software product,
       | especially if it 's an OS -- but windows contains two different
       | consoles, about three versions of the system preferences
       | management, ..., it just doesn't seem like MSFT to be that picky
       | about what they'll put into their product.
        
         | a-dub wrote:
         | bigger question in my mind: how did they come to be?
         | 
         | are they features that were planned but then abandoned?
         | 
         | do developers at microsoft have the autonomy to build features
         | they personally find interesting while on the clock?
         | 
         | do they come from hackathon like events?
         | 
         | do they now all come through a dedicated team?
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | NoahKAndrews wrote:
         | In a small amount of fairness, Windows only comes with one
         | console. On Windows 10, you have to install Windows Terminal
         | separately, and on Windows 11, Windows Terminal is the only
         | one.
        
           | nrabulinski wrote:
           | Windows 10 comes with cmd.exe and power shell, both include
           | their own terminal emulators. Windows 11 comes with both and
           | with windows terminal on top of it.
        
             | legalcorrection wrote:
             | No, that's not right. conhost.exe is the old terminal
             | emulator and Windows Terminal is the new one. cmd.exe and
             | powershell are analogous to bash/zsh/etc. and can run
             | inside either conhost.exe or Windows Terminal.
        
               | mixmastamyk wrote:
               | Conhost is not really a terminal emulator, except in the
               | sense that it's a square box to type into. It is not an
               | emulator. Design, Architecture, implementation all
               | completely different and gimped.
        
               | legalcorrection wrote:
               | Yes good point. One of the things that annoys me most
               | about HNers is that they think Unix is the one true OS
               | paradigm and measure all other designs by how similar
               | they are. And here I am doing it myself.
        
             | vetinari wrote:
             | cmd.exe and powershell do not include "terminal emulators".
             | Pre-Windows Terminal, they (and every other console app)
             | use conhost.exe, that comes with the system. Windows
             | Terminal comes with openconsole.exe, that any app can use
             | instead. In Windows 11, it can be set up as the default
             | one.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | fassssst wrote:
         | Fancy Zones was an inspiration for Windows 11's Snap Layout
         | feature, which is a bit simplified but provides many of the
         | same benefits.
        
           | V-2 wrote:
           | It is essentially the same thing, with FancyZones only adding
           | the ability to enhance default presets with custom layouts -
           | am I wrong?
        
             | judge2020 wrote:
             | FancyZones are quite more powerful, eg. you can hold shift
             | while dragging a window to show your layound and snap that
             | window to the layout. With 11 it's pretty much exclusively
             | limited to "either drag a window against the side of the
             | screen for zone hints, or hover the maximize button".
        
         | xen2xen1 wrote:
         | Support costs. They don't help enough people to justify the
         | problems that would pop up. The people who download Power Toys
         | can probably take care of themselves.
        
           | Shadonototra wrote:
           | support costs for a trillion dollar company, sure
           | 
           | if they can't do it, i know lot of people who would do it for
           | the same salary they are getting over there at MSFT
           | 
           | lazy culture, how long it took them to add tabs to explorer?
           | hmm
        
             | baq wrote:
             | given the approx. millions of configurations they already
             | support, adding more is always a cost-benefit analysis.
             | 
             | personally if I was a developer of this I wouldn't want it
             | anywhere near the gold release... it'd take all the fun
             | away and you'd have to give up development to some team you
             | haven't heard about in the next cost optimization cycle
             | (Real Soon Now(TM))
        
               | xen2xen1 wrote:
               | Yup, everything you add is something that people will
               | call about, guaranteed. And these are more complex than
               | most things. You imagine if everyone could remap their
               | keys? You make it free and easy to download and do Github
               | "support".
        
             | RajT88 wrote:
             | Trillion dollar companies don't like funding their support
             | departments any more than < million dollar companies do.
        
       | status200 wrote:
       | "How to make your Windows more like MacOS"
       | 
       | Hopefully Microsoft sees the writing on the wall and includes
       | these in an update, instead of being stubborn and pretending that
       | they have had a reason to exclude them all this time.
        
         | alar44 wrote:
         | Do you really think that enterprise and large business (the
         | meat and potatoes of MS money) is going to switch to Mac
         | because it's missing some utility that 99% of users don't need?
         | 
         | I don't know what fuckin planet you people live on. Microsoft
         | is a business oriented ecosystem. The fact that you can play
         | call of duty on it is a bonus.
        
           | status200 wrote:
           | Thank you for being so hostile. Amazing how triggered people
           | get when you mention MacOS. I was referencing consumer
           | usability, not enterprise utility.
           | 
           | Do they have to pay attention to it? No. Will it help improve
           | their OS as a daily driver for non enterprise users? Sure.
        
       | tester756 wrote:
       | Also no built in screen recording software, wtf? 2022
       | 
       | at least gifs pls
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | Windows has screen recording, but weirdly enough only under
         | gaming "branding". Win + G in an app for the Game bar, record
         | from there.
        
         | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
         | Have you tried looking it up? There literally is a built-in
         | screen record functionality.[1]
         | 
         | I swear, half of negative comments here about Windows are FUD
         | from users who either never used it longer than 5 minutes and
         | don't bother looking stuff up.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-video-screen-
         | captu...
        
           | tester756 wrote:
           | IIRC I don't have any "Xbox" or gaming related stuff on my
           | work RDP or server.
           | 
           | Video recording isn't gaming feature, it's the same kind of
           | app as paint, notepad or calculator are.
        
       | drakenot wrote:
       | Anyone have a good "Push to Talk" utility for windows?
       | 
       | This PowerTools has something close but not exactly what I'm
       | looking for.
       | 
       | I've gotten used to PTT in apps like Ventrilo / Discord and hate
       | having to constantly unmute / remute in Teams.
        
         | 369548684892826 wrote:
         | Teams added something like this recently, hold down ctrl+space
         | to temporarily unmute
         | 
         | https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/office/muting-and-unmuti...
        
         | dalex00 wrote:
         | Also would enjoy such feature for bugger meetings as hangout
         | setting
        
         | drittich wrote:
         | I went the other way and wrote a utility that mutes my mic when
         | I type.
        
       | jcrben wrote:
       | I found that IT at work wouldn't let me install powertoys because
       | they didn't like the Awake feature. Please bundle these in of
       | allow us to install them one by one.
        
         | GekkePrutser wrote:
         | That's stupid, there's no way to avoid that. If you can't do it
         | in software you can do it in hardware.
         | 
         | I do it when working at home with a digispark that simulates a
         | mouse that moves a tiny bit once in a while.
         | 
         | You could even place the mouse on a moving surface or
         | something.
         | 
         | I think in the office locking a PC is very important but in a
         | WFH situation much less so. Especially in my case where I live
         | alone.
        
           | lifthrasiir wrote:
           | Agreed it's stupid, but it still remains a good idea to have
           | a separate distribution without Awake.
        
           | R0b0t1 wrote:
           | There's environments where you get in trouble for
           | unauthorized USB devices. Of course, you can just have them
           | emulate an allowed VID/PID pair and get away with it, but it
           | will lead to a rules clarification.
        
             | cercatrova wrote:
             | You don't have to plug in the mouse jiggler, it can be a
             | separate device that hooks onto the mouse itself. The OS on
             | the computer would never know about it since it's separate
             | from the computer.
        
             | slantyyz wrote:
             | For those situations, there are wobbling mouse platforms
             | that effectively do the same thing as a plug-in USB mouse
             | jiggler.
        
           | __s wrote:
           | I have a paper weight I lay on a rock to keep Ctrl pressed.
           | Useful when running long running scripts in background while
           | I'm working on another laptop
           | 
           | I've had environments where the system was pretty locked
           | down, but had access to VBScript:
           | https://gist.github.com/valdergallo/0e05d9e0c90b7be77458
        
         | 5d8767c68926 wrote:
        
         | filmgirlcw wrote:
         | That's good feedback. If you file that as an issue on GitHub,
         | that might get more traction. I'm sure you're not the only
         | person in this situation.
         | 
         | (disclosure: former Microsoft employee (now at GitHub) who
         | knows the PowerToys team)
        
           | jcrben wrote:
           | It's sort of filed already, you can see
           | https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/issues/3170 and the
           | linked issues
        
       | StarlaAtNight wrote:
       | My favorite tool in this is PowerRename
        
       | nayuki wrote:
       | The Windows PowerToys brand name has been around for a long time!
       | I still remember downloading them from the Microsoft website for
       | Windows XP to add features to Windows and customize Explorer's
       | behavior.
        
       | lloydatkinson wrote:
       | It's written in .NET but historically HN isn't keen on that kind
       | of thing
        
       | GrantsUsername wrote:
       | I run it all the time on Windows 11. FancyZones are great for
       | ultrawide monitor use. Would definitely recommend it.
        
       | iconhacker wrote:
       | https://fluentsearch.net/ fluentsearch is way more powerful than
       | powertoy run. It replaced my need for Listary as well. The author
       | is an Microsoft engineer and have frequently updated the app
       | based on the community feedback. If fluent search replaced
       | powertoy run and be part of the powertoy, it will be perfect.
        
       | dorfsmay wrote:
       | I remember when PowerToy was the only to get focus-follow-mouse,
       | before you could do that in the registry. This was magic! It made
       | Windows half usable.
       | 
       | These days, when IT spends so much effort to make working
       | difficult, and castrate Windows to the the point it is unusable,
       | I work on Mac if my customer won't allow Linux, and that has to
       | be one of the most frustrating thing on macOS, you have to click
       | to bring anything in focus. I swear I spend 30% of my time
       | clicking on things just so I can type in them!
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | It looks like your text-to-speech doesn't work very well either
        
           | westcort wrote:
           | Here is a good TTS implemented in a few lines of HTML and
           | JavaScript: https://www.locserendipity.com/TTS.html
        
           | dorfsmay wrote:
           | It wasn't text-to-speech, but me typing too fast helped by
           | Android auto-incorrect.
        
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