[HN Gopher] WordPress' market share is shrinking
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       WordPress' market share is shrinking
        
       Author : adamcarson
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2022-05-11 21:05 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (joost.blog)
 (TXT) w3m dump (joost.blog)
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | tl;dr: wordpress went from 41.2% to 42.9% in a year - undeniably
       | shrinking
        
       | kappuchino wrote:
       | Do you have the same impression: Each and every plugin/extension
       | has a commercial pro version that keeps on nagging to buy its
       | extended warrenty ... sorry, no, to subscribe to updates for just
       | 29.99 each, right? So 29.99 for instagram connections, 39.99 for
       | backups pro (i'm making names and prices up, but you know the
       | drill.) and for just 20 dollars more a security/virus check for
       | ... what?!?!
       | 
       | are you f**king kidding me? I've started to use pelican. It
       | creates a flat file-based website with all I need. (See:
       | https://blog.getpelican.com/)
        
       | justinator wrote:
       | Chances I will ever use Squarespace or Wix: 0%.
        
         | andybak wrote:
         | Well I guess chances I will ever use Squarespace, Wix or
         | Wordpress: ~0%.
         | 
         | But I'm not sure what that adds to the conversation without
         | some background context on our requirements, use-cases or
         | constraints?
        
         | haswell wrote:
         | The HN community is a bubble. I doubt very many people who
         | participate here would either.
         | 
         | But many creative types I know have used at least one if not
         | both. We are not the intended market.
        
       | siquick wrote:
       | The only people I know who hate Wordpress are the developers who
       | have had the misfortune of having to manage an instance of
       | Wordpress. All the marketing and content people I have worked
       | with love it.
        
       | jokabrink wrote:
       | From the blog post:
       | 
       | > If WordPress is shrinking, something else must be growing, this
       | is, after all, a zero sum game. The very clear winners at the
       | moment are Wix and Squarespace.
       | 
       | I disagree with the authors findings: When taking a look at the
       | quaterly data
       | https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/content_ma...,
       | one can clearly see that WP and Shopify at least plateaued which
       | is alright.
       | 
       | But the authors conclusion, that WP's loss gives points to Wix
       | and SqSpace for me does not hold: The numbers for "None" still
       | decreases and much more strongly than the two mentioned above.
       | 
       | He conveniently forgets the "None" partition, making is entire
       | argument/criticism (for me) somewhat thin. He could in the same
       | way argue, that Wix and Squarespace are more successful in
       | getting non-CMS websites to switch.
        
       | stefanos82 wrote:
       | WordPress will continue losing market share for the simplest
       | reason: people fed up with the coercion of Full-Site Editing
       | (FSE) by Automattic.
       | 
       | Community's reaction via comments' section [1] for Gutenberg
       | plugin was a clear indication that people will eventually go
       | away, had they not revoke their decision.
       | 
       | They haven't which led to the fork [2] of WordPress thus dividing
       | the community, at least for a while.
       | 
       | Had they listened to their community to acquire Elementor and
       | make it part of WP core, things would have been a lot better
       | today than they currently are I'm afraid.
       | 
       | They have wasted countless resources and valuable time that could
       | be poured in improving Elementor and WordPress in general.
       | 
       | I have tried to find tutorials, articles, and books about using
       | FSE and couldn't find anything updated.
       | 
       | It's just sad to be honest with you...                 [1]
       | https://wordpress.org/plugins/gutenberg/       [2]
       | https://www.classicpress.net/
        
         | pupppet wrote:
         | I used to tell people WP is a solid base to build your website
         | if you know what you're doing, but with Gutenberg and not
         | knowing how much longer the Classic Editor plugin will be
         | supported I keep my WP praise to myself.
        
       | partiallypro wrote:
       | Wix and Squarespace are imo infinitely harder to make look
       | good/maintain than Wordpress (at least without Gutenburg). Just
       | some basic tasks are needlessly difficult or impossible. I still
       | think Wordpress is the go-to easy to build/maintain CMS.
       | 
       | IMO, I think Automattic introduced Gutenberg way too soon to Core
       | and introduced it as very half baked. Still to this day it's very
       | half baked to an incredible degree, some pages will just break
       | outright and resort to JSON errors, not to mention the built in
       | blocks are awful and 3rd party blocks often break. That probably
       | turned off a lot of people. It's still easier to just buy a theme
       | that has a built in page builder and you'll get similar
       | Lighthouse scores to Gutenburg.
        
       | dvngnt_ wrote:
       | linktree is a very lightweight alternative that i see a lot of
       | people use
        
         | andybak wrote:
         | https://linktr.ee ?
         | 
         | That seems an entirely different thing, unless there's
         | something I'm missing.
        
       | pluc wrote:
       | Die a hero or live long enough to become a vilain
        
       | dpcan wrote:
       | We can make assumptions all day but for me, the worst thing about
       | WordPress is EASILY Plugin Hell.
       | 
       | I can update all plugins this morning and they all want updates
       | by the end of the day.
       | 
       | And then when they break it's a disaster.
       | 
       | WordPress itself needs to take a chill pill too.
       | 
       | Leave a version out for a year or more, and only small security
       | patches. In the last year, I think we've seen block widgets,
       | JQuery migrate nightmares, that new blocks theme thing, and more.
       | I just want them to back off already.
       | 
       | It's a nightmare keeping hundreds of clients up to date.
        
       | altdataseller wrote:
       | An alternative explanation: people who use Wordpress are those
       | with personal blogs and they are being visited less, thus less
       | present in top Alexa Rank sites.
        
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