[HN Gopher] Wireless Is a Trap
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Wireless Is a Trap
Author : behnamoh
Score : 51 points
Date : 2022-05-12 19:10 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| adamch wrote:
| This is really noticeable with video chat. I never use Bluetooth
| when talking with my family... between the Texas - Australia lag
| and the Bluetooth headphones - Android phone lag, it's enough to
| impair conversation.
|
| Now the problem is just how to manage all the cables that come
| from having a gaming PC and work laptop that use the same
| keyboard and monitor. I have a KVM switch but I can't hide it
| under the desk if I want to press it.
| nerdbaggy wrote:
| AX has BSSID Coloring which really helps improve performance when
| multiple APs are on the same channel. Still have the saturated
| channel limitation but that rarely happens on 5Ghz
|
| https://www.extremenetworks.com/extreme-networks-blog/how-do...
| areoform wrote:
| I bought a Homepod Mini on sale some time ago, and it's one of
| the worst experiences I've ever had. It continuously stutters. It
| stops working. I realize just how magical it is that it works at
| all. But the realization that it needs WiFi to stream music to,
| despite having bluetooth, has been quite depressing. I don't
| think the product will ever work without jitter given the amount
| of overlapping WiFi signals in my area.
|
| It's a bit like the butterfly keyboard of speakers. A wonderful
| idea in theory. But it makes you wonder if anyone at Apple has
| ever tried using it an apartment building, a dusty environment,
| or some place that isn't a pristine lab or upper middle class
| suburbia
| qq66 wrote:
| I wanted wired Ethernet in my office but didn't want to punch
| holes in the wall. Luckily I have an old "central vacuum system"
| that as far as I can tell has never been even powered on, many
| years before I bought the house.
|
| I tied a ping pong ball to a piece of string and used a vacuum
| cleaner to suck it through the pipes, then used the string to
| pull a stronger rope and then the Ethernet cable. So now my
| Ethernet goes from my office to the wireless router via the
| vacuum ducting.
| wpietri wrote:
| Now that's a proper series of tubes.
| robotnikman wrote:
| Other alternatives I've found to work are Ethernet over power
| (varies depending on how well your house is wired though) and
| ethernet over coax using MoCA adapters (if your house was
| previously wired with coax for cable TV these work great)
| bin_bash wrote:
| MoCA adapters are crazy expensive though
| alexvoda wrote:
| It's too late now. We are already entering the age of laptops
| without headphone jacks.
|
| If only people listened earlier.
| amelius wrote:
| Wired would be so much better if it were just a replacement for
| wireless, where you just plug a wire between two points, and they
| start communicating without any configuration necessary if the
| two points already had a wireless communication going.
| falcolas wrote:
| It... usually does? For example, I can plug in an ethernet
| cable to my router and computer, and it works perfectly fine.
| And if I unplug, it's still connected, just by wifi.
| layer8 wrote:
| TIL why Bluetooth is called Bluetooth:
|
| > It was the epithet of King Harald Bluetooth, who united the
| disparate Danish tribes into a single kingdom; Kardach chose the
| name to imply that Bluetooth similarly unites communication
| protocols.
| [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Name_and_logo]
|
| Another thing, not mentioned in the article, is that microwave
| ovens tend to interfere with Bluetooth in my experience.
| kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote:
| Tom Scott had one of his usual informative videos on this
|
| https://youtu.be/VdmQp9M9jUo
| HeyLaughingBoy wrote:
| Not just your experience. I worked for a company that made a
| lot of wireless devices. We had a pretty open-plan office and
| learned not to test anything around lunchtime.
|
| Seriously. There were many times that I was working on
| something that suddenly had a spike in the receive failure rate
| and I'd look at the time and realize that somebody was heating
| up their lunch in the microwave.
| JonathonW wrote:
| And WiFi. And anything else that might happen to operate in the
| 2.4 GHz ISM band (like some cordless phones, back in the day).
| falcolas wrote:
| It absolutely does. Especially if folks are in the habit of
| opening the door before the microwave shuts itself down.
| wwweston wrote:
| This is one reason why I'm still down on Apple's decision to
| remove 1/8" audio jacks from iPhones: they took away a decades
| old "just works" standard that wasn't subject to interference or
| battery or latency issues and replaced it with something that
| fundamentally is. Their efforts at filing down the sharp edges
| here with the airpods (and have done as well as anyone could
| expect) don't change the fundamentals.
|
| "Get a dongle" -- maybe I will when I finally give up my original
| iPhone SE, but I'm not going to be cheerful about paying an extra
| $30 for the privilege along with the overhead of keeping track of
| an additional thing.
| TimTheTinker wrote:
| If I'm not mistaken, removing the 1/8" audio jacks was
| significant in enabling the IP67+ water resistance ratings
| iPhones have these days.
|
| That rating comes in handy for those who have butter fingers
| like me and drop their phones in water once in a while.
| ozfive wrote:
| Couldn't a rubber gasket on the 1/8" jack help with water
| resistance?
| reaperducer wrote:
| _I 'm not going to be cheerful about paying an extra $30_
|
| $9. Not $30. If you're going to grind a three-year-old axe, at
| least get your figures right.
|
| https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...
| samatman wrote:
| I wish I had only bought three of those tiny things...
| finally ended up sugruing one of them to the lav mic.
| doommius wrote:
| Yup. Also just mostly wireless equipment is super low quality.
| It's easy to see this when living downtown in any larger city.
| You'll easily be competing with 100s of other APs for the 2.4 ghz
| wireless band. With tbr 5 and 6 ghz this is getting better but
| there still isn't nearly enough channels.
| nl wrote:
| This "managed cables on my desk" is reason enough to stick with
| wireless.
| modeless wrote:
| USB-C hubs or monitors with power delivery make this really easy
| these days. One cable gets you everything. Power, display(s),
| mouse/keyboard, Ethernet, and any other peripherals you need.
| It's absolutely worth getting a USB Ethernet adapter. They work
| way better than WiFi.
|
| A wireless mouse is still worth it though. Logitech G305 is
| essentially perfect IMO. Extremely reliable, extremely low
| latency, months of battery life, reasonable price.
| kazinator wrote:
| > _Most Bluetooth headsets introduce around 150-300ms of latency
| (the time between my computer receiving the audio from the
| Internet, and the sound coming out of the headphones)_
|
| I must have an incredible $10 BT speaker (used for quiet TV
| listening at night). I don't see any delay versus the regular
| audio (plan old 1/8" audio jack out of Android box, to stereo).
| You would notice 150-300 ms as serious lip synch issue.
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