[HN Gopher] "Computers", BSA Merit Badge Series (1973)
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       "Computers", BSA Merit Badge Series (1973)
        
       Author : dalke
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-05-12 08:20 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | WalterBright wrote:
       | It's in my 1969 BSA merit badge book, too.
       | 
       | I don't know why I never got it, though my first access to a
       | computer was in 1975. At one point I decided to get every merit
       | badge, but lost interest before finishing.
       | 
       | In the early 1970s, the BSA underwent a major dumbing down, which
       | contributed to my losing interest. For example, the WeBeLoS rank
       | in Cub Scouts stood for "Wolf Bear Lion Scout". To a boy, that
       | was pretty cool! But by the time I achieved Bear, they changed it
       | to mean "We Will Be Loyal Scouts". Ugh. That just let all the air
       | out of the balloon. What boy wants that rank?
       | 
       | The uniforms were changed from cotton that worked great outdoors,
       | to cheap, itchy polyester. Perhaps coincidentally, the scouts
       | stopped wearing the uniforms.
       | 
       | They revamped the Boy Scout manual, too, in a miserable way. I
       | kept my old one. I had the 1969 Merit badge book because, you
       | guessed it, they messed up the merit badges, too, to be more like
       | Sesame Street.
       | 
       | It just wasn't for me anymore. Grumble, grumble.
        
         | bg4 wrote:
         | I'm an Eagle Scout who grew up in the 80s. 'We'll be loyal
         | scouts' was my jam baby.
        
           | WalterBright wrote:
           | I'm sure there were still plenty of boys for whom it worked.
           | The BSA that I liked, however, had passed into history, much
           | like how chemistry sets were emasculated at about the same
           | time.
        
             | WalterBright wrote:
             | One think I thank the BSA for is when I moved to Arizona, I
             | thought it was one ugly lifeless brown desert. One of the
             | merit badges required me to identify many types of flora
             | and fauna to a leader while hiking in the desert.
             | 
             | It really opened my eyes to the beauty of the Arizona
             | desert, which I grew to love very much.
             | 
             | The swimming and lifesaving merit badges also made me
             | confident in the water, which I thank the BSA for giving me
             | the impetus to do.
             | 
             | And, of course, the knots have served me well, and I can
             | make fire with one match. I wish the Scouts had taught a
             | lot more woodcraft. They didn't even teach building an
             | emergency shelter.
        
             | bg4 wrote:
             | You're not wrong sadly - I've commented very much the same
             | thing for the experience I had in the 80s compared to
             | today.
        
               | Shared404 wrote:
               | I had a similar experience over the course of the 2000s -
               | 2010s.
               | 
               | Though my issue was as much with the increasing top
               | heaviness of the funding as anything else.
        
       | ben_w wrote:
       | I find it surprising and fascinating that OCR was already a thing
       | by this point.
       | 
       | What is/was easy and what is/was hard isn't at all obvious, not
       | even in retrospect.
        
         | convolvatron wrote:
         | it was pretty marginally useful for the longest time, night and
         | day with todays
        
       | cowmix wrote:
       | I was in a computers themed "Explorer Scout" program in the
       | mid-80s (it had some affiliation to the BSA but I'm not sure how)
       | when I was going to high school. One of the benefits of that
       | program was getting your own account on Honeywell's Multics
       | timeshare system.
        
         | mayoff wrote:
         | I was in an Explorer Post that met at Convex Computer
         | Corporation in Dallas, TX in 1986. It was my first exposure to
         | Unix and C programming. A few of us got dial-up access to a
         | Convex C-1 "minisupercomputer". Then I got in trouble for
         | dialing in just to play Hack. (This was before it became
         | Nethack.)
        
       | version_five wrote:
       | I was in cub scouts (this was in Canada, it's for ages 7-10 or
       | so, I don't know how it maps to BSA scouts, it's part of the same
       | Baden Powell originated organization).
       | 
       | I did a similar badge in this org which I think was a little more
       | basic, in the 80s. I haven't really thought about it since then,
       | but we had to do some definitions, I think write instructions for
       | some task as in this one, and what strikes me most now is we had
       | some (simple) boolean logic exercises, or had to make examples, I
       | think explained as switches, explaining AND, OR (I dont remember
       | if others were there) as series and parallel and determining
       | whether a light was on.
       | 
       | Sounds basic, but having taught intro to programming and intro to
       | circuits many years later, still confusing for many
        
         | Alupis wrote:
         | Cub Scouts is the under-12 youth organization that "feeds" into
         | Boy Scouts.
         | 
         | Many, but not all, Boy Scouts started off as Cub Scouts, rising
         | up through the ranks to earn their Webelos before "graduating"
         | into Boy Scouts around age 12.
         | 
         | Cub Scouts organize into "Packs" (analogous to a Troop in Boy
         | Scouts), and break off into "Dens" (analogous to Patrols in Boy
         | Scouts).
         | 
         | Scouting is an amazing youth experience, both in Cub Scouts and
         | Boy Scouts. Unfortunately not all Packs and Troops are created
         | equal, although some "specialize" in certain activities (such
         | as canoeing/kayaking, backpacking, etc). Finding a good Pack or
         | Troop that fits your interests is key.
        
           | WalterBright wrote:
           | I joined the Boy Scouts at 10 mainly because the Cub Scouts
           | abandoned Wolf Bear Lion Scout as WeBeLoS.
        
             | Alupis wrote:
             | That's a real shame. In my day, earning your Webelos was
             | quite a life achievement and meant a great deal, for being
             | so young. It was not quite the same magnitude of importance
             | as earning your Eagle, or being inducted into the Order of
             | the Arrow, but it was significant.
        
               | jdeibele wrote:
               | My son is in Scouts. He was a Wolf, then Bear, then
               | Webelos. He achieved the Arrow of Light as a Cub Scout.
               | https://www.boyscouttrail.com/webelos/arrow-of-light.php
               | Is that the same as what the Webelos used to be?
               | 
               | BSA brought back Lions a few years ago for 1st Graders.
               | I'm not sure what the uptake has been.
        
               | WalterBright wrote:
               | The ranks were Wolf, Bear, Lion, then WeBeLos, and then
               | Arrow of Light.
        
       | willswire wrote:
       | As an Eagle Scout, one of the things I'm most grateful for is the
       | merit badge program. You really get a wide exposure to tons of
       | different areas - most of which come with a pamphlet similar to
       | this one.
       | 
       | The real value proposition of the BSA is to better serve your
       | community and those around you by becoming well-rounded, and
       | having contextual experience of teamwork dynamics.
        
       | dalke wrote:
       | Following up on yesterday's "Master's at Arms" badge
       | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31344293 ), I thought
       | people might be interested in what the requirements were for the
       | "Computers" badge for the Boy Scouts of America, nearly 50 years
       | ago.
       | 
       | Here are the requirements, from
       | https://archive.org/details/BoyScoutsComputers/page/n5/mode/... :
       | 
       | 1. Do the following:
       | 
       | a. Give a short history of computers. Describe the major parts of
       | a computer system. Give four different uses of computers.
       | 
       | b. Describe the differences between analog and digital computers.
       | Tell the use of each.
       | 
       | c. Explain some differences between special- and general-purpose
       | machines.
       | 
       | 2. Do the following:
       | 
       | a. Tell what a program is and how it is developed.
       | 
       | b. Explain the difference between an assembler and a compiler.
       | Tell where each might he used. Describe a source and an object
       | program.
       | 
       | c. Use a flowchart diagram to show the steps needed to set up a
       | camp.
       | 
       | 3. Do one of the following:
       | 
       | a. Prepare flowcharts to find out the average attendance and dues
       | paid at the last five troop meetings.
       | 
       | b. Prepare flowcharts to work out a simple arithmetic problem.
       | Explain to your counselor how this program could be stored in a
       | computer. Tell how it could be used again.
       | 
       | 4. Do the following:
       | 
       | a. Name four input/ output devices for computers. Explain the use
       | of two of them in a system.
       | 
       | b. Explain the Hollerith code. Show how your name and address
       | would be punched on a card.
       | 
       | 5. Tell the meaning of six of the following: a. memory b. bits c.
       | on-line d. bytes e. microsecond f. address g. channel h.
       | interrupt i. register j. console k. central processing unit
       | 
       | 6. Tell the meaning and use of 12 of the following: a. business
       | data processing b. information retrieval c. simulation d.
       | scientific processing e. floating point f. truncation g. fixed
       | point h. accuracy i. input j. record k. output l. file m.
       | software n. instruction o. hardware p. indexing q. loop r.
       | subroutine s. real time t. time sharing u. cybernetics
       | 
       | 7. Visit a computer installation. Study how it works.
       | 
       | 8. Do the following:
       | 
       | a. Explain what each of the following does: design engineer,
       | analyst, customer engineer, operator, programmer, salesman
       | 
       | b. Read two pieces of information about computers. Describe what
       | you read.
       | 
       | c. Describe jobs in the computer field.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | I think this would give one a much more rounded knowledge base
         | than your typical coding boot camp graduate receives.
        
           | Shared404 wrote:
           | Old Scouting manuals are a gold mine for basics on a very
           | wide variety of knowledge. Much of it is outdated, but I
           | still quite enjoy reading through a replica copy of the
           | original BSA handbook.
        
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