[HN Gopher] Eurovision Song Contest Bingo
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       Eurovision Song Contest Bingo
        
       Author : ValentineC
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2022-05-14 19:12 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | mikaeluman wrote:
       | Always take away at least 3-4 songs to add to my Playlist.
       | 
       | It's not too bad. Loved the aesthetics of Spain this year too
        
         | ajsnigrutin wrote:
         | > It's not too bad. Loved the assthetics of Spain this year too
         | 
         | fixed that for you ;)
        
       | mrtksn wrote:
       | The contest is happening ATM.
       | 
       | If you haven't watched it already, I suggest you to go watch
       | Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga[0] , a brilliant
       | comedy movie that captures the Eurovision's spirit very well.
       | They also speak the truth about the voting: Nobody likes UK, so
       | zero points :)
       | 
       | Jokes aside, Eurovision is a cringy but at the same time
       | euphorically positive event, fetching 200M viewers worldwide
       | every year.
       | 
       | Even Australia is now in the contest(didn't make it to the finals
       | but I think they should have made it, there are worse songs that
       | did).
       | 
       | correction: Apparently Australia is in the finals! As they
       | deserve.
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest:_The_S...
        
         | laerus wrote:
         | UK is actually gonna win though?
        
           | mrtksn wrote:
           | I know, right? I can't recognise the world we live anymore!
        
         | brabel wrote:
         | > Even Australia is now in the contest(didn't make it to the
         | finals but I think they should have made it, there are worse
         | songs that did).
         | 
         | Hey, Australia is definitely in the finals...
         | 
         | See https://eurovision.tv/
        
           | the_gipsy wrote:
           | No kangaroo references? Boo!
        
           | sgt wrote:
           | I just watched the Australian performance. My first thought
           | that was that they sent him to Europe to get rid of him.
        
           | T-zex wrote:
           | Getting many things wrong by the Eurovision observers is part
           | of Eurovision. BBC is the worst (or should I say best) in
           | this regard.
        
         | hermitcrab wrote:
         | PLAY YA YA DING DONG!
        
       | unpopularopp wrote:
       | The main problem with this year's broadcast imo that the hosts
       | are not speaking _that_ good english. The whole thing just
       | doesn't feel natural, it really comes across they speak a foreign
       | language.
        
         | tobr wrote:
         | Mika isn't exactly speaking a foreign language, though.
        
         | T-zex wrote:
         | Could it be because of the fact they are Italians? Or are you
         | assuming the whole world must speak the perfect English?
        
           | unpopularopp wrote:
           | 1. It's up to the host country choose the hosts
           | 
           | 2. Watch previous years, this year is definitely lower
           | quality
           | 
           | 3. I don't assume that, but I expect that considering an
           | international broadcast (I'm from the EU, english is not my
           | native language)
        
         | sgt wrote:
         | The Italian hostess can sing better than any of the
         | performances tonight. Look her up.
        
         | jtvjan wrote:
         | Is that really a problem? Oddly pronounced English is the
         | official language of the EU :-)
        
           | palcu wrote:
           | For the nerds, there you can read about Euro English on
           | Wikipedia.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_English
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | One of the hosts is actually English - the bloke in rather
         | vivid pink. His Italian is deemed fluent but no one has
         | criticised his accent (which is probably odd).
         | 
         | I think that all of them manage a pretty decent English,
         | especially the English bloke.
        
       | seo-speedwagon wrote:
       | I'm still salty that Germany didn't send Electric Callboy
        
         | leipert wrote:
         | Agreed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzkhQsmSag
         | 
         | Edit: Seems like the juries are as well. 0 points after half
         | the votes.
        
       | gerdesj wrote:
       | The music is getting better, these last few years. There seems to
       | be less of a stigma associated with doing Eurovision. You still
       | have plenty of the downright odd stuff though.
       | 
       | This year Ukraine should win and it helps that their entry is
       | genuinely pretty good. Norway have fielded a song about feeding
       | bananas to a wolf, riffing on Little Red Riding Hood, in errm
       | yellow. Spain's entry sported a pretty close shave and manages to
       | lose even more clothing - quite a decent song too.
       | 
       | UK (my homeland) are hoping for a decent result after taking
       | quite a few beatings over the years - "null points". Our boy has
       | absolutely smashed it on the socials so should be OK. [Greece
       | have just ticked under 18]
       | 
       | Whatever happens, we have our Irish compere to get us through the
       | night. Graham Norton and before him Sir Terry Wogan, have been
       | the voice of the Eurovision SC in the UK for absolutely yonks.
        
         | brabel wrote:
         | > Spain's entry sported a pretty close shave and manages to
         | lose even more clothing
         | 
         | My gosh what a hot performance... Romania was also spicy.
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | "When in Rome"!
           | 
           | There is quite literally nothing else like the ESC.
        
             | midasuni wrote:
             | They're in Turin...
        
               | gerdesj wrote:
               | Quite, but there is an old saw hereabouts: "When in Rome,
               | do as the Romans".
        
         | dijit wrote:
         | I just made the same comment about Ukraine winning.
         | 
         | But then they would be responsible for hosting the next games,
         | which I think is a little bit too much to put that
         | responsibility on them now.
         | 
         | ------
         | 
         | Also; I'm not a fan of the fact that the Eurovision Song
         | contest is basically a popularity contest between countries.
         | 
         | (EDIT: Apparently this is controversial (-2 karma), tell me
         | why! Cowards!)
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | If it could be hosted in a UKR city - that would be something
           | but I'm sure the rules can be changed and another country
           | could host it provided there was a lot of gold and blue.
           | 
           | The UVSC is what it is and it beautifully reflects the state
           | of the rather nebulous concept - "Europe".
        
             | dijit wrote:
             | I couldn't find what you're referring to.
             | 
             | This is what I found:
             | 
             | * Utah Valley State College (Orem, UT)
             | 
             | * Universal Visa Services Center (Dhaka, Bangladesh)
             | 
             | * Unadilla Valley Sports Center (Edmeston, NY)
             | 
             | * Used-Vehicle Sales and Certification Study (J.D. Power
             | and Associates)
             | 
             | * Uranium Ventilation Scrubber Cell
             | 
             | And a cancer survivor charity.
        
               | gerdesj wrote:
               | Typo: U -> E
               | 
               | Eurovision Song Contest.
        
           | kylegordon wrote:
           | Exceptions can and have been made, and the responsibility of
           | hosting it then moves to the EBU to select a location
        
         | anonymousDan wrote:
         | Mandatory to watch Father Ted:
         | https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3omj87
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | Father Ted was commissioned in the UK after being turned down
           | by an Irish broadcaster (I think the state one - can't
           | recall). It was deemed too Irish, which was probably fair
           | enough at the time.
           | 
           | Thankfully it was broadcast because it is a classic in my
           | opinion. Mrs Doyle's ("Won't you have a cup of tea") mud and
           | cocaine cake is up there in the comedy pantheon, along with
           | elderly priest football and the milkfloat parody of "Speed".
           | 
           | Beautifully insightful parody without ever being cruel.
        
             | hermitcrab wrote:
             | I don't think the Irish Catholic church were big fans.
        
               | gerdesj wrote:
               | That was then. I personally know one or two Irish
               | Catholic priests and they are not offended by Father Ted
               | and at least one is a massive fan.
               | 
               | I went to a pretty posh school in Oxfordshire back in the
               | day. The school priest (Church of England) made us watch
               | "Life of Brian" by Monty Python's Flying Circus and
               | discuss it in our "Divinity" studies - an O Level
               | (nowadays GCSE - 13-16 year old).
               | 
               | One of the other Masters (teacher) intended and was going
               | through the process to become a CofE priest and was
               | massively offended by Life of Brian. Perhaps he felt he
               | had to be holier than thou or whatever. He was my rugby
               | coach and was once a player for the Harlequins a long,
               | long time ago so a good egg in my eyes but a bit whizzed
               | up over a comedy film. I will grant him that LoB is a
               | pretty robust parody/critique of Christianity (and
               | English/Britishness and more besides).
               | 
               | Oh and there was a band at my school called On a Friday -
               | they played by the Cricket Pav at the end of summer term
               | 1989 to a load of kiddies enjoying end of term relief and
               | glorious weather. You'll know them as Radiohead. Funny
               | old world.
        
       | teddyh wrote:
       | * "Pornstache"?
       | 
       | * "Implied homosexuality"?
       | 
       | Are these supposed to be... noteworthy occurences?
        
       | gerdesj wrote:
       | Blimey, UKR just gave the UK 12 points. ... so have Azerbaijan.
       | 
       | We seem to have lost the pariah of the world title. [Belgium -
       | RLY?]
       | 
       | OK, this is weird.
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | Georgia has the same patron saint as England so clearly that's
         | why they gave 12 pts to the UK (no it isn't)
         | 
         | Yes, the English (part of the UK) and Georgian flags are very
         | similar too.
         | 
         | I have no idea what is happening here.
        
         | ValentineC wrote:
         | I just came in to comment the same.
         | 
         | (For those not in the know, the UK tends to finish near the
         | bottom of the leaderboard every year.)
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | We are currently out on top at the moment which is proper
           | weird.
        
       | natly wrote:
       | "Overwhelming cringe" bingo square in the printed edition ends up
       | cut out due to the number of Xs penciled on top of it
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | sgt wrote:
       | Sweden's performance...they have to win!
        
         | tpmx wrote:
         | We really should have sent this entry instead:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EsxUJfcsWM :)
        
       | hermitcrab wrote:
       | The true stars of Eurovision are the audio visual techs.
        
         | sandermvanvliet wrote:
         | Truth. Check out this camera shot from a few years back:
         | https://youtu.be/C3TBvJUtuHs
        
           | mrcus wrote:
           | That's from the Norwegian finals! The Norwegian Broadcasting
           | Corporation has such an impressive and passionate technical
           | crew, it is really fascinating how they manage to make truly
           | world-class productions with a comparatively limited set of
           | resources, both in terms of manpower and money.
        
             | tpmx wrote:
             | That was actually from the ESC final in Moscow (sigh) 2009.
             | 
             | https://eurovision.tv/story/eurovision-2009-received-
             | prestig...
             | 
             | They had a large Scandinavian crew for the broadcast
             | production though: https://m-m-pr.com/eurovision-
             | diary-2009/ ... different times.
        
         | Matthias247 wrote:
         | they certainly did a great job! Things like the rain overlays
         | for the polish performance were pretty stunning, and it made me
         | wonder how stuff like this is done.
        
       | hermitcrab wrote:
       | In case anyone is wondering that the voting looks a bit suspect:
       | https://successfulsoftware.net/2008/05/26/is-the-eurovision-...
       | (from 2008, but still relevant)
        
         | ValentineC wrote:
         | ... I can't believe the UK is in the lead.
        
           | hermitcrab wrote:
           | It is a shock. It was quite funny when the UK got nil point
           | last year. I feel a bit sorry for the performer, but (and I
           | say this as a UK national) the UK has been acting like a
           | massive jerk towards their neighbours and allies (as well as
           | it's own people) for the last few years.
        
           | nikanj wrote:
           | The jury votes are always a laugh. Essentially the more jury
           | votes you get, the less the public likes you
        
         | haunter wrote:
         | They changed the voting system since 2008 several times
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_at_the_Eurovision_Song_...
         | 
         | Also... you can already see Ukraine will get a lot of votes
         | just because of the war not because the actual song. But it
         | always have been like this
        
           | ajsnigrutin wrote:
           | Yep, A LOT of politics in eurosong.... some come from
           | neighboring countries giving votes to eachother, some due to
           | "politics", some due to people living across the border, and
           | a lot due to similar cultures, especially with etno-sounding
           | songs. Add then all the expats (eg. turks in germany), and
           | you get those votes too.
           | 
           | This year, ukraine will probably get a lot of pity votes due
           | to the war, maybe even enough to win.
        
       | dspillett wrote:
       | Sadly, gone are the days of being able to play "guess the nation
       | Terry Wogan will offend this year" with the UK broadcast.
        
       | ilikeitdark wrote:
       | Cheesy and awful but fun. I'd be down with Portugal or Ukraine
       | winning. Although also liked Iceland.
        
         | hermitcrab wrote:
         | So bad, it's good.
        
           | mrtksn wrote:
           | IMHO the audiovisual shows were always good and the last few
           | years there are actually good songs(even UK sent a decent
           | entry). Also, in an increasingly hostile world I feel like
           | the cringe of the multiculturality and neighbour love is not
           | as strong, it's actually a fresh breeze of positivity.
        
       | jdalsgaard wrote:
       | In desperate need of more upvotes..
        
       | someweirdperson wrote:
       | "Boob shock"? What's the "shock" part needed to tick that box? It
       | is EUROvision, there could be boobs in every performance, and
       | still no-one would be shocked.
        
         | ajsnigrutin wrote:
         | No boobs sadly, a few asses in thong though, but nothing
         | shocking.
         | 
         | Maybe someone from the audience will jump on the stage again,
         | that could "shock" someone.
        
           | someweirdperson wrote:
           | Probably there's rules of fairness, for those who don't want
           | to show. Otherwise, to have a fair chance of winning,
           | everyone would be required to perform naked.
        
         | aldeluis wrote:
         | The bingo seems written from the North american cultural and
         | religious bias. One of the unselected song for the Spain
         | delegation was about that... with special appearance of
         | Zuckerberg imperial boob (censor)ship.
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/-z9qeALR7j0
        
       | geekuillaume wrote:
       | Currently live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhyLh5sGRRI
        
         | hedora wrote:
         | Why, oh why does Eurovision prevent itself from being viewed in
         | the US?
         | 
         | You could argue "licensing", but I'm guessing you're going to
         | be hard pressed to find a contestant band / manager that says
         | "we're trying to keep this low-key/limit publicity for now".
        
           | United857 wrote:
           | https://www.svtplay.se/eurovision-song-contest-2022
           | 
           | Swedish but seems to work in the US if you don't mind Swedish
           | commentary
        
           | haunter wrote:
           | Blame NBC, the local broadcasters decide if they want to
           | block it or not
           | 
           | https://polsy.org.uk/stuff/ytrestrict.cgi?ytid=https%3A%2F%2.
           | ..
        
             | reaperducer wrote:
             | _Blame NBC, the local broadcasters decide if they want to
             | block it or not_
             | 
             | NBC is not the "local broadcaster" in the sense that the
             | BBC is the local broadcaster for the United Kingdom, or ABC
             | is the local broadcaster for Australia. Broadcasting in the
             | U.S. doesn't work that way.
             | 
             | That said, NBC does air American Song Contest, which is
             | Eurovision production, and receives very poor ratings.
             | Because of this, I surmise that Eurovision doesn't air in
             | the United States because none of the broadcasters will pay
             | for the rights if it's not going to bring in enough viewers
             | to make up for the fee.
             | 
             | If Eurovision really wanted its program to be seen in the
             | U.S., there is no shortage of small networks,
             | cable/satellite networks, LPTV networks, or OTT providers
             | for getting its program seen. It just has to offer the show
             | at a reasonable rate.
             | 
             | I don't think this is a case of the usual HN cliche of
             | "Evil company blocks me from seeing something for no other
             | reason than to be evil."
        
               | jorams wrote:
               | > ...or ABC is the local broadcaster for Australia.
               | 
               | Just a note here: The Eurovision local broadcaster for
               | Australia is SBS[1]. SBS is also mostly publicly funded.
               | 
               | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Broadcasting_S
               | ervice
        
               | haunter wrote:
               | >Eurovision doesn't air in the United States because none
               | of the broadcasters will pay for the rights if it's not
               | going to bring in enough viewers to make up for the fee
               | 
               | NBC bought the rights
               | https://eurovision.tv/story/peacock-eurovision
               | 
               | After that it's up to them blocking the Youtube stream or
               | not and they did block it
               | 
               | >I don't think this is a case of the usual HN cliche of
               | "Evil company blocks me from seeing something for no
               | other reason than to be evil."
               | 
               | No it's the case "we bought the licence and we stream it
               | on our streaming platform and you have to watch it here"
        
               | reaperducer wrote:
               | Thanks for the clarification. That didn't come up when I
               | did my search. I guess that's what I get for using
               | Google!
               | 
               | So, it's not "blocked" as in not ever going to be
               | available. It's just going to be on Peacock next Sunday.
               | 
               |  _No it 's the case "we bought the licence and we stream
               | it on our streaming platform and you have to watch it
               | here"_
               | 
               | No different than in the UK where you have to pay a fee
               | to watch it on BBC.
        
               | midasuni wrote:
               | It's broadcasting on bbc one at the moment. Graham is
               | telling us we can vote for Poland.
               | 
               | Is it broadcasting in NBC?
        
               | detaro wrote:
               | NBC is the local broadcaster for Eurovision, given that
               | they licensed it.
        
             | [deleted]
        
         | squeral wrote:
         | Also not available in the UK for some reason.
        
           | hermitcrab wrote:
           | But available on live TV in the UK (BBC1).
        
             | sgt wrote:
             | HN crowd doesn't know what linear TV is any more.
        
               | midasuni wrote:
               | Live on iPlayer too (as live as iPlayer gets - 30 seconds
               | or so behind DTT)
        
           | haunter wrote:
           | BBC gotta get that TV licence fee!
        
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