[HN Gopher] HP Dev One Laptop with Pop _OS
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HP Dev One Laptop with Pop _OS
Author : pbui
Score : 36 points
Date : 2022-05-20 22:09 UTC (51 minutes ago)
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| tristor wrote:
| I want to like this, but I feel like 32GB of RAM is minimum if I
| were buying a new laptop. I've been heavily eyeing the Framework
| but I'd prefer AMD. This had AMD but is limited to 16GB of RAM...
| lots of unnecessary tradeoffs being made here.
| easton wrote:
| Is this a custom laptop or a different SKU of an existing one? I
| haven't seen a recent EliteBook so I can't identify it on sight
| anymore, unfortunately.
| pram wrote:
| It's a Pavilion afaict.
| aarongray wrote:
| It has a trackpoint mouse like the Thinkpads <3
| jeffbee wrote:
| All HP EliteBooks have one, right?
| fortysixdegrees wrote:
| Cursor arrow key layout fail.
|
| Devs use cursor keys more than anyone and they didn't prioritise
| a layout you can easily hit with muscle memory. I know because my
| current laptop has a layout like this machine and it sucks
| smoldesu wrote:
| Inverted-T is a good layout for the most part, but I think
| IBM/Lenovo have suckered me into their 3x2 arrow cluster.
| Having pgup and pgdown so close to a single hand really helps
| me fly through docs and PDFs.
| messe wrote:
| 16GB RAM? Is it upgradable or can it be configured higher? If
| not, why in god's name would you have 16GB RAM as a selling
| point?
|
| FHD at 14"? That's more than usable sure, but I'd prefer at least
| 2560x1440, preferably 2560x1600; A 16:9 aspect ratio is a pain in
| the ass.
|
| 4 years ago, these specs (if you can even call it that, we've
| been given almost no information) would have been decent. Now?
| This just seems desperate.
|
| EDIT: I know this is quite critical. I like that there is a
| laptop out there from a traditional OEM, that is being supplied
| with Pop! OS. I just wish it was a better laptop, because the
| person looking for a laptop with Pop! OS is more than likely
| going to be looking for one with decent specs and may have enough
| additional income to spend on those specs. Other than the 1TB
| drive (I'm happy with 256GB in a lot of cases thanks to my NAS
| and streaming), this feels like the bare minimum specs for a
| laptop in 2022.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| Radeon graphics and 16GB memory for $1,100 sounds like a good
| deal imo.
| metadat wrote:
| Dear sir, madame, or they:
|
| This post serves as proof that it'll never be enough for some
| people unless you sell it for $1 and it checks every single one
| of their "Homer Car" boxes.
|
| https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/4/4c/The_Homer.png
|
| And even then.. I'm skeptical the crabbers would be satisfied.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| I haven't used Pop!_OS so maybe this isn't a valid concern, but
| some Linux distros have a hard time with DPI scaling,
| especially by non-integer amounts... So you could end up with
| an unfortunate situation where a 1440p screen is too small to
| read at 1x scaling but too clunky to use at 2x
| messe wrote:
| I believe Pop!_OS is based on GNOME, which handles fractional
| scaling in the same way as macOS, by rendering the UI at 2x
| and then scaling down. In my experience with macOS, this is
| good enough for ~95% of cases (I've run into issues with
| image editing and pixel art).
|
| It hurts battery life, but... this is a developer laptop:
| make it a bit thicker, and give it as much battery as you
| legally can.
| na85 wrote:
| >If not, why in god's name would you have 16GB RAM as a selling
| point?
|
| With 16 GB you can run two whole Electron apps!
| messe wrote:
| Slack and VSCode. What else does a developer laptop need?
| er4hn wrote:
| Spotify for my flow state picks. How can I get in the zone
| without soothing music and ideally some noise cancelling
| Bluetooth headphones?
|
| Of course, to really work without distractions I'll close
| Slack.
| [deleted]
| yakkityyak wrote:
| To be brutally honest, this looks like a very lame laptop.
| rychco wrote:
| I'm a big fan of pop_os & have been using it for years, but being
| limited to 16gb of memory is probably a dealbreaker
| tedunangst wrote:
| What is with those arrow keys? Who wants double wide half height
| up and down keys? 2 x 0.5 does not equal one full sized key.
| newaccount2021 wrote:
| itomato wrote:
| Offset trackpad is a 100% deal breaker for me, sorry. It could
| support 64GB and Libreboot and I would pass.
| wolverine876 wrote:
| It's centered under the spacebar in the image I see (which is
| elsewhere).
| prescriptivist wrote:
| Looking at the keyboard layout makes me wonder. How many devs
| here actually use the right shift key and/or the right modifier
| keys? I've been programming for 20 years (15 or so using emacs)
| and I exclusively use the left shift and left modifiers. I
| probably have never used the (physically) right shift/modifier
| keys on the keyboard I'm currently typing on that I've had for 2
| years.
|
| I loathe the four left modifier key layout on keyboards which is
| probably why I hate typing on my Macbook. It would be nice if I
| could have a fat left control key with the fn key on the right
| somewhere.
| wolverine876 wrote:
| > How many devs here actually use the right shift key and/or
| the right modifier keys? I've been programming for 20 years (15
| or so using emacs) and I exclusively use the left shift and
| left modifiers. I probably have never used the (physically)
| right shift/modifier keys on the keyboard I'm currently typing
| on that I've had for 2 years.
|
| Why would that be common? I ask because I also don't use the
| right modifier keys, but that's because I got in the habit
| years ago on a keyboard which forced me to do it that way.
| [deleted]
| prescriptivist wrote:
| I guess I assume that left key dominance is more common
| because that's where some modern laptop keyboards elect to
| retain the control key and add the fn key.
| messe wrote:
| I use right shift all the time? Probably 50:50 between the two
| for me.
| difosfor wrote:
| I use the right shift key to type capital letters on the left
| side of the keyboard since I type with ten fingers. I suspect
| most people do that?
| wolverine876 wrote:
| I often type them on the left side with one hand holding the
| shift and typing. It's not as hard as it sounds.
| rychco wrote:
| I regularly swap between left and right shift depending on
| which opposite side of the keyboard the key I need to modify is
| (does that make sense?). However, I strictly use left ctrl
| (replacing left caps-lock) and left alt.
| prescriptivist wrote:
| Yep that makes sense. I could be an outlier on exclusive left
| shift key usage.
| stakkur wrote:
| This seems...underwhelming. In most features, especially the
| screen. Also: I've used multiple high-end HP laptops at work (a
| requirement), and they are _awful_.
| jchw wrote:
| The pointer stick is a really great thing to have assuming it
| works well. That said, my muscle memory would be decimated by the
| lack of a middle button. On Thinkpads, holding this makes the
| pointer stick scroll, making it a lot more useful than if it
| _only_ middle clicked.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Parts of this look neat... why do they refer to the memory as a
| fixed factor, though? Is this really a single-SKU product without
| configuration options?
| truffdog wrote:
| Small market :/
| dflock wrote:
| Also, 16GB is not a lot of headroom for VM's etc... on a dev
| laptop.
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