[HN Gopher] Lofi.co - Relax and Focus
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       Lofi.co - Relax and Focus
        
       Author : evo_9
       Score  : 111 points
       Date   : 2022-05-22 17:57 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | midislack wrote:
       | I just get some animation of some dude walking, nothing happens.
        
         | nkozyra wrote:
         | Sounds relaxing
        
           | midislack wrote:
           | I can only focus so long on it though.
        
       | mellowagain wrote:
       | Thank you for additionally giving back 1% of your subscription
       | earnings to mental health organizations!
        
       | comnetxr wrote:
       | looks great. wish I could break it free from the browser though.
       | a browser tab can't really be the backdrop to my work, and
       | clicking into a browser tab just to view the visualization is an
       | extra distraction -- defeating the purpose. Doesn't seem
       | realistic, but I wish I could set this to be my desktop
       | background without loosing the interactivity.
        
         | open1414 wrote:
         | if you use chrome, you can "install" it and it will look like
         | an application then. i do this with spotify
        
         | Nalta wrote:
         | fwiw, I take sites like this and use chrome's option to make
         | them stand-alone apps. (three dots -> more tools -> create
         | shortcut -> open as window)
        
           | comnetxr wrote:
           | does anyone know if you could take a window and make it
           | always be in the background -- the reverse of "always on
           | top", say "always on bottom"? doesn't seem to be an option on
           | Mac or in Gnome that I can tell but maybe there is someway to
           | gain that functionality.
        
         | oan wrote:
         | Hey, thank you for the feedback. I absolutely get what you're
         | saying, a solution can be 'installing' the website as an app
         | (you should get the prompt in the browser to do so). Plan for
         | the future is to have both a desktop and mobile app though,
         | which would definitely be the best solution
        
       | Method-X wrote:
       | https://poolsuite.net is the one I use.
       | 
       | The retro 90s asthetic is awesome.
        
       | TobyTheDog123 wrote:
       | While I think this is a really cool product with incredible art
       | assets, I just can't see myself paying $4 monthly (or $100 once)
       | for a number of looping videos, a spotify playlist, customizable
       | audio effects, and a few productivity tools, most of which could
       | be stored in the user's browser, and most of which have better,
       | free alternatives.
       | 
       | As a user I'd probably feel more comfortable handing over closer
       | to $1/mo, but of course that's very subjective and this may be
       | worth more/less to different people.
       | 
       | The art is really awesome though, but the amount I find myself
       | actually looking away from my task at hand to enjoy it just isn't
       | enough for it to be worth another subscription. I'm not sure what
       | the big costs are for a site like this, but I imagine something
       | like Cloudflare could kill video/asset delivery costs, having
       | users connect their own music accounts (or just use Youtube for
       | curation) could kill any music costs, but that's about it.
        
         | death916 wrote:
         | Ya its a bit pricey but really good execution. If there was an
         | open source version of this where you could use ur own files
         | but this was the player or something would be dope. Cant fault
         | someone for trying to make some money though.
        
         | oan wrote:
         | Hey! This is actually a website of mine, so I appreciate the
         | feedback. About the price, any alternative or similar products'
         | memberships cost around double (if not more) for often less
         | features, so I'd say the pricing is actually quite low. For the
         | costs, I would say S3 for the assets is the biggest one, at
         | least with the current 150-200,000 monthly users. The actual
         | art as well is a cost since it's all original, but that can
         | vary if say we don't add any new set for a month, which has
         | happened only one time. Thanks again for the feedback!
        
       | gabereiser wrote:
       | I tried to use the site but couldn't without registering for
       | premium.
       | 
       | If there any free soundscapes to try this out or is it all behind
       | a paywall?
        
       | cultofmetatron wrote:
       | as someone who is currently subscribed to both endel AND brainfm
       | AND has several lofi playlists on spotify, you need to work on
       | your onboarding process.
       | 
       | first I had to navigate several tutorial screens and then I have
       | to sign in just to hear music? You're going to lose a lot of
       | signups. You need to make the music available asap so that I can
       | see what I'm buying into. even taking the time to fill out
       | another signup form is an investment.
        
         | vmception wrote:
         | I skipped the tutorial and was right into a scene with no
         | signup?
        
           | gabereiser wrote:
           | Really? Because I ended on a scene that was unusable without
           | signing up
        
             | ssnistfajen wrote:
             | There is a (very stylized) cross mark on the top right
             | corner which you can click to get rid of the signup screen
             | and then hit the play button for music to start playing.
             | Clearly the process needs a few more iterations of
             | improvement. I get why prompting signups is important but
             | without making it less intrusive a lot of potential users
             | will simply walk away when they already have an existing
             | solution of productivity tools + Youtube playlists.
        
         | kristiandupont wrote:
         | If you are into binaural beats, you can try listening to this:
         | https://soundcloud.com/kristiandupont/brainwave-for-
         | meditati....
         | 
         | I made it with a piece of software many years ago (seriously!
         | It was a DOS program). It's the sound that most consistently
         | puts me into a trance. I put it on Soundcloud to make sure I
         | wouldn't lose it, because I have no way of recreating it and
         | all the apps and videos I have found don't work nearly as well
         | for me.
        
         | carlgreene wrote:
         | I definitely did not have to sign up to listen to music. Took a
         | few more clicks than I'd like but still was able to hear stuff
         | within 5-10 seconds
        
         | brendoelfrendo wrote:
         | There's an "x" in the top right on the sign-in screen that lets
         | you bypass the sign up process and use the service logged out.
         | I'm with you, though, that I almost closed the tab when
         | prompted to sign in; I don't really see the need to make an
         | account until and unless I want to be a premium user.
        
         | niemenmaa wrote:
         | Some music starting to play in background would definitely be
         | great. Btw, I just tried both endel and brainfm and both
         | required me to sign up before i could listen to any music.
        
           | cultofmetatron wrote:
           | maybe something changed but back when I signed up for them
           | both, I'd listen to the free tracks without signing up. they
           | proved their value and I ended up signing up so I could get
           | the whole catalog.
        
           | selykg wrote:
           | Don't do that, I could see that being bad too. Unable to stop
           | or pause is another problem. The various screens to get
           | started just need to go away.
        
             | oan wrote:
             | Hey there, I appreciate the feedback and the tutorial
             | screens will definitely go away as soon as the landing page
             | will be live later next month. Can I ask what you mean by
             | unable to stop or pause?
        
               | selykg wrote:
               | It was a direct response to auto-playing when loading the
               | page. I think if you did that but popped the screens you
               | do now you pose a problem of people that load the page
               | but don't have the ability to pause. Imagine a work
               | environment as an example of that.
        
               | butterlesstoast wrote:
               | I presume they might mean ability to play and pause with
               | either integrated phone controls or keyboard play pause.
               | In other words, it should be simple to pause the
               | background music if needed. Lovely application! I'll use
               | it at work tomorrow.
        
         | oan wrote:
         | Hey there, answering as this is an app of mine and I like to
         | hear people's feedback. You don't actually need to do any sign-
         | up or navigate the tutorials to use the website, there are both
         | an X on the top right and a 'leave tutorial' button to go
         | directly to the play button/mixer
        
         | orphea wrote:
         | Also it suggests to check out two Premium backgrounds that are
         | free until... three days ago. Quite a tempting offer.
        
       | xwowsersx wrote:
       | Everything I click on results in a pop-up directing me to go
       | premium, including links that don't have that little icon
       | indicating it's only available for premium subscribers.
        
       | rayrag wrote:
       | I've downloaded few mixes with relaxing music from YT and created
       | a playlist in my foobar, it's simple and it doesn't require
       | browser. I also recommend some radio streams:
       | 
       | https://somafm.com
       | 
       | http://echoesofbluemars.org/
       | 
       | https://plaza.one/
        
         | no-dr-onboard wrote:
         | Somafm's DEF CON channel is factually the best working music.
        
         | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
         | Somafm digitalis has been my beat since 2008ish
        
       | applecrazy wrote:
       | Reminds me a lot of https://lifeat.io/. No affiliation.
        
         | Hbruz0 wrote:
         | That's amazing, are the videos live ?
        
           | LegitShady wrote:
           | they are not. you can load and reload them to see their
           | starting point.
        
       | blueflow wrote:
       | This is basically lofi-girl as a service.
        
       | kblev wrote:
       | Anyone knows a good radio for dub techno? Something like CMYK's
       | uploads on YouTube.
        
       | r3trohack3r wrote:
       | I've been compiling a list of focus inducing songs on Deezer.
       | 
       | My method is to vet a random playlist by listening to it during
       | an intense coding session. If I can make it through without
       | getting distracted I add it to my focus playlist.
       | 
       | I have a subsequent vetting process where - if at any point when
       | listening to a song on my focus playlist - a song grabs my
       | attention I'll remove it.
       | 
       | It's grown to over 75 hours of music at this point. I can listen
       | to it for days on shuffle without hearing anything familiar which
       | helps keep it in the background.
       | 
       | https://deezer.page.link/JChycwJz7ArqGDtRA
        
         | aunetx wrote:
         | That's great, thanks for sharing! However you will soon hit the
         | 2000 songs limit on the playlist, if Deezer did not remove it
         | already.
        
           | r3trohack3r wrote:
           | Ha! I already hit it. That's why the playlist isn't any
           | longer.
           | 
           | You're the first person I've met who knows this limit. Every
           | time I complain about the 2k limit in my social circles, I
           | get these weird looks like they're saying "who'd ever need
           | more than 2k songs?"
        
         | tra3 wrote:
         | Is it possible to convert this to Spotify or YouTube music?
        
           | r3trohack3r wrote:
           | No idea. Deezer is DRM free, has a deep catalogue, has a
           | solid API, and provides high fidelity files. I have no use
           | for other services. Personally I'd recommend them. As an
           | example of a personal project I've built on their API:
           | https://audile.app (a random album on every page load)
           | 
           | Unless you have an online service you won't be able to keep
           | this playlist in sync on another platform as I continue
           | cultivating it. I do keep a backup of the playlist in the
           | event Deezer disappears.
        
             | tra3 wrote:
             | Fair enough. I'm pretty coupled to Spotify's ecosystem so
             | for anyone on Spotify here's the first 200 songs:
             | https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0IcZx8V66DzI2apfnutcvq
             | 
             | I used a service (soundiiz) that only allows 200 songs to
             | be converted for free.
        
       | subzero06 wrote:
       | This is great
        
       | death916 wrote:
       | nice vibes. Monetization kinda in your face, but I dig the site.
        
       | chrisweekly wrote:
       | I'm happy with my personally curated "Flowstate" Spotify
       | playlist, comprised of tracks I can put on repeat for deep work
       | sessions:
       | https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6UScdOAlqXqWTOmXFgQhFA?si=...
        
       | sha256sum wrote:
       | Reminds me of lofi.cafe, same concept but without creepy login
       | screens and "onboarding processes".
        
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         | junon wrote:
         | Yep. Three taps in and I'm already hitting "premium" screens.
         | No thanks.
        
         | katcher wrote:
         | The best onboarding is to let your users use the product
         | without all the pop ups, Next buttons and registrations for
         | spam.
        
         | oan wrote:
         | Very sorry if the login screen looks creepy ahah, definitely
         | got to improve that side. The tutorial will go away as soon as
         | the landing page is live later next month. I do know lofi.cafe
         | as it's from a fellow italian developer, but I think the
         | concept is quite different. Thanks for the feedback!
        
       | holoduke wrote:
       | Just type in something you feel in YouTube and you get that kind
       | of music. Relaxed coding music, tavern programming music, melodic
       | slow dungeon music, dark church chill music. Celtic modern
       | electronic lounge music, wizard fantasy medevil dubstep relaxed
       | music, sad jungle music, back to 90s synthwave modern music,
       | truckers traffic jam music. You name it. I am amazed how many
       | genres there are out there. I listen it all the time.
        
       | sinamim wrote:
       | free alternative: https://www.lofi.cafe/
        
         | a_bored_husky wrote:
         | another free alternative: https://lofi.limo/
        
       | pbronez wrote:
       | I've settled on https://www.brain.fm/ for this. I really like how
       | I can dial the music in for the desired effect. For me, it's more
       | convenient and effective than searching playlists.
        
         | tra3 wrote:
         | Brain.fm was a good deal when lifetime memebrships were
         | available. It's not worth the current monthly fee.
        
           | r2_pilot wrote:
           | I lucked out and did the lifetime membership. It mostly stays
           | unused but it's fun to have sometimes.
        
             | tra3 wrote:
             | Yeah, I wish I got it too. I was pretty great to drown out
             | distractions without being distracting itself. I hesitate
             | to confirm or deny whether it actually made me more focused
             | or relaxed.
        
       | prakhar897 wrote:
       | Yours is great but I love this one :)
       | 
       | https://driveandlisten.herokuapp.com/
        
       | fcurzel wrote:
       | Been using for the last few hours, pretty good!
        
       | throwaway6734 wrote:
       | https://musicforprogramming.net/latest/
       | 
       | Is my go to. The web design is slick, all tracks are downloadable
       | mp3s, and the tracks are great background noise
        
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