[HN Gopher] Linode Managed Databases ___________________________________________________________________ Linode Managed Databases Author : vincent_s Score : 57 points Date : 2022-05-24 19:00 UTC (4 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.linode.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.linode.com) | ivyirwin wrote: | Excited to check this out. I'm a long time Linode user and | recently came across some projects that could leverage a managed | DB. As always, I find the prices competitive - especially | compared to AWS which I was starting to look at again for this | component, but now I can try it out here instead. | WalterGR wrote: | Linode doesn't seem to come up much. The only submission in the | past year that's gotten more than a couple comments is: | | Akamai to Acquire Linode (https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press- | release/akamai-to-acqu...) | | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772 | | 986 points | nycdatasci | 3 months ago | 326 comments | mattbillenstein wrote: | I like them, they're my solidly "other cloud" option - running | my personal VPS's, dev workloads at some companies, prod at | others, etc. | apocalyptic0n3 wrote: | Their support has always been best in class. Extremely | responsive and always helpful. It's one of the reasons we | decided to stick with them after the security incidents. The | support was good enough to outweigh those concerns. | tiffanyh wrote: | Has anyone tried Linode Bare Metal? | | It's been in Beta for literally years now. | | https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/ | bryans wrote: | > It's been in Beta for literally years now. | | "Years" is quite a stretch. On December 30, 2019, they | announced[1] bare metal servers as being part of their roadmap | for 2020, and then announced the beta on June 16, 2021. Given | the necessity of on-site labor to launch a bare metal service, | I think it's perfectly reasonable for it take more than a year | in the midst of a pandemic. | | [1] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/ | | [2] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/ | l5870uoo9y wrote: | Been wondering how much uptime you get with "these" managed | databases? Currently running similar service on Digital Ocean and | unsure if extra database nodes are necessary (2 failover nodes | increases cost significantly). | chasd00 wrote: | i've used linode on various projects for a while (my first | invoice was in 2013). no complaints. | my69thaccount wrote: | Not even about the numerous security incidents? | chasd00 wrote: | well i went back and skimmed their incidents. I mean, yeah | those incidents suck, there's really no way around it. | | My day job has changed a lot since 2013. Could I, in clear | conscious, recommend Linode to a client today? I would need | to know each incident in detail and how they've changed and | be convinced the past is staying in the past. My setup has | always been there when i needed it and support has always | been responsive and that goes a long ways. However, we all | know a secure environment is at the top of the list. | groggo wrote: | I'd really like access to a tiny, almost free, sql database for | personal projects. | | The cheapest option here is $15 a month, and similar prices for | other cloud managed dbs. | | Heroku was nice and I guess is still a good option, but hard to | make a usable site on their free tier because of start up time. | | Then there's the interesting new option from Cloudflare, D1. | | Currently I just run my personal project on AWS lambda + | dynamodb. It's free, but using dynamodb for relational data is a | little awkward. | ajbourg wrote: | I have a similar desire, I'm considering trying out AWS' RDS | Aurora Serverless v2. (ugh, that's a mouthful) Full | Postgres/MySQL but extremely quick scale up and down so as long | as you have small use, it shouldn't cost a ton. | | I'm also super interested in Cloudflare D1, looking to get my | hands on it and try it out. | kam wrote: | Aurora Serverless v2 doesn't scale to zero, though. Minimum | capacity costs $43/month. | dinvlad wrote: | Same here - and particularly one that could serve multiple | hobby projects, while using both dev and prod envs (so minimal | cost could already be 2-3x). | gen220 wrote: | Have you looked into fly.io? They have a very generous free | tier for hobby level projects. | | https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ | password4321 wrote: | https://supabase.com/pricing | | 2 free 500MB PostgreSQL db's, paused after a week of inactivity | burggraf wrote: | Supabase developer here. Just to clarify, inactivity means | "no api calls, no dashboard usage", so your project only gets | paused if it's truly inactive for a full week. If you have an | application with any sort of usage at all you should not get | paused. | testmasterflex wrote: | https://server.pro smallest VPS plan costs $5 and has one click | installer for MySQL. | mikece wrote: | Seems that Digital Ocean comes up quite a bit on HN; Linode does | from time to time... who else is in this market segment? | pbowyer wrote: | UpCloud (more expensive, were v fast IO when I started using | them, not benchmarked for a couple of years) | | Vultr (have had reliability issues; again no recent data) | bryans wrote: | I wanted to like Vultr, but had reliability issues from day | one, even while running nothing but a basic Nginx instance. | And instead of the support staff acknowledging the issues or | offering any solutions (or even reading my emails, frankly), | they rather aggressively told me they don't see an issue, and | even if there _is_ an issue that I would need to fix it | myself -- completely disregarding the visible evidence that | it was at the networking layer. | | It was one of the most infuriating exchanges I've had with | support staff from any company. If there was any redeeming | factor, it's that the COO sent a long email apologizing for | the CSR's behavior. But when all was said and done, the VPS | was still inaccessible a dozen or more times per day, and an | apology from an executive doesn't change that. | menacingly wrote: | anecdotally of course, I've really enjoyed working with vultr | the last few years. Great performance, and their services are | simple and well thought through. | | It's perhaps a little too easy to bump into their initial | account spending limits, but that's about the only nit I can | pick. It's probably pretty tiresome fighting fraud on a VPS | platform. | dgb23 wrote: | Exoscale (CH). | config_yml wrote: | I wish they had some kind of block storage support. | Sebb767 wrote: | Hetzner is pretty similar in its cloud offerings, but it's also | not uncommon on HN. | emptysongglass wrote: | The Finnish company Aiven.io is doing really cool stuff with | managed services for most things you'd want as a startup to | mid-size business. | GauntletWizard wrote: | Everytime I see it posted, I am linked to vultr[1] and | Upcloud[2]. Hetzner[3] and OVHCloud[4] are slightly different | market segments, but comparable. Worth noting is Amazon | Lightsail[5], which is ec2-but-different. | | [1] https://www.vultr.com/ [2] https://upcloud.com/ [3] | https://www.hetzner.com/cloud [4] https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/ | [5] https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/ | TedDoesntTalk wrote: | I've had years of experience with OVH. I would never choose | them for a new project. Their product is acceptable , but the | customer support people are jerks. Consistently, for years. I | can provide very specific examples if you want. | | EDIT: also have years of experience with Linode, Vultr, | DigitalOcean, and even Upcloud (Spanish company as I recall). | vincent_s wrote: | Pricing: https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases | metadat wrote: | Seems a little pricey.. are they competing with AWS Managed | Postgres? | freedomben wrote: | Were you looking at dedicated CPU or shared CPU? I made that | mistake when i first looked and was shocked at how much more | it was than DO, but after noticing that it seems like the | same price. | showerst wrote: | Yeah, it seems weird that they're a lot more than | digitalocean. | api wrote: | Everybody charges a log for managed DB. The arcane nature of | Postgres is a great cash bonanza for cloud providers. | latchkey wrote: | Weird how this is your impression. Maybe people tend to | over allocate their instances? I've been super careful to | choose exactly what I need for my application. My GCP Cloud | Postgres instance is the second smallest (1 vcpu, 1.7gb, | 15gb). | | I'm 24/7 doing 300 tran/s with ~20% cpu utilization and it | only costs $27.34 a month. I just upgraded to Postgres 14 | (from 13) with a click of a button and a few seconds of | switchover downtime. Seems more than worth the price. | akrymski wrote: | Paying $300 per year for something that a raspberry pi + | sqlite could handle is still very expensive imo. | latchkey wrote: | Not sure if that is a troll response, but that is very | much of an apple/orange comparison. | | 1. My application needs postgres as it uses a few | specific queries that sqlite does not support the same | way. Hello `interval`. | | 2. Backups are automatic and transparent. | | 3. Upgrades, instance sizing and disk expansion are just | a few clicks away. | | 4. I don't have to deal with hosting, power, internet, | security. | | 5. Charts, logs, metrics all built in. | | 6. On the same network as the rest of the frontend... gcp | functions. | | Just one of those alone is worth the $300/yr imho. | jf93ap29sh wrote: ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-05-24 23:00 UTC)