[HN Gopher] The End of Big Data
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       The End of Big Data
        
       Author : swyx
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2022-05-26 08:13 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | bigcat12345678 wrote:
       | Can someone summarize what the article want to say?
       | 
       | I am not happy about spending 10 minutes on it but realized I
       | need another 10 minutes, and in the end would still be confused,
       | and would need post this comment anyway.
       | 
       | So I just stopped there and wrote this comment.
       | 
       | Rip writing clarity, and the effective communication...
        
       | PLenz wrote:
       | Big data didn't lose. It became so common that now what was once
       | big data is just data.
        
       | mr_toad wrote:
       | > But we never connected these dots during our evaluation because
       | the story Databricks told was buzzwords. Snowflake's was boring,
       | and all we wanted--at least at first--was boring.
       | 
       | How do you describe a chocolate gateau to someone who has only
       | ever eaten rice?
       | 
       | If you've never worked with tools like Pandas, or R, or SAS,
       | you're just not going to understand Spark and Databricks.
        
       | nonrandomstring wrote:
       | > the end of an over-hyped era
       | 
       | Hype is part of what drives technology and I don't see it going
       | away any time soon - because a lot of people make a buck purely
       | by milking hype cycles.
       | 
       | I've come to see there are two modes of intelligence. The ability
       | to understand something and say 'yes' to it is complemented by
       | bullshit detectors, a more mature ability to see through other
       | people muddying the waters trying to look smart, and reject their
       | nonsense.
       | 
       | Every cycle has its real innovators and hype-pedlars. At the
       | height of blockhain madness a decade ago they had worked
       | themselves into a frenzied fetish of near-supernatural woowooism.
       | Once all the smoke and hullabaloo has cleared, and all the
       | grandiose promises have fallen to the wayside, what remains is a
       | core of genuinely useful and relatively simple core concepts that
       | enter the canon, along with standards and protocols.
       | 
       | This line in TFA sums it up:
       | 
       | > I needed a database.
       | 
       | The same happened with "data". The hype problem there has always
       | been a lack of telos reminiscent of the underpants gnome's flawed
       | "profit?" scheme. Somewhere is a crucial missing step, where we
       | ask "Why?". And the answer is "don't worry, the data plus magical
       | "AI" fairy dust will reveal why". There is a quite religious
       | (faith-like) flavour to this.
       | 
       | I blame the NSA. The idea that "collect it all" is anything but a
       | thugish brute force excuse to waste of billions dollars building
       | data-centres, has led to commercial obsession with "data" as a
       | panacea.
       | 
       | It isn't "big data" _per se_ that 's a problem. Some
       | applications, like in medicine or environmental science,
       | absolutely thrive on large sets and sophisticated analytics. But
       | the fact is that in most applications it's mostly useless,
       | burdensome, energy-consuming, and space-wasting. But "data-
       | hoarding" and over-analysis is pushed by those with sledgehammers
       | to sell for cracking nuts.
        
         | Swizec wrote:
         | > Once all the smoke and hullabaloo has cleared, and all the
         | grandiose promises have fallen to the wayside, what remains is
         | a core of genuinely useful and relatively simple core concepts
         | that enter the canon, along with standards and protocols
         | 
         |  _has_ this happened with blockchain yet? I 'm not seeing it.
         | 
         | Maybe I haven't been around the block enough because blockchain
         | is the first hype tech I've seen that keeps not doing anything
         | that existing tech can't do better. And yes I've looked, a lot.
         | 
         | The underlying tech sounds super promising and I hope someone
         | figures _something_ out. Not much luck so far.
        
           | phil21 wrote:
           | > has this happened with blockchain yet? I'm not seeing it.
           | 
           | No one wants to admit it for some reason, but Bitcoin is the
           | killer app for Blockchain.
           | 
           | > The underlying tech sounds super promising and I hope
           | someone figures something out. Not much luck so far.
           | 
           | Plenty of luck for me at least. Bitcoin solved exactly the
           | problem it told me it would when it was created -
           | permissionless digital "cash" transactions that cannot be
           | reversed. It's a very specific use case, but one I am quite
           | happy exists when I need it.
           | 
           | Those who have never had their money stolen by the banking
           | system or denied the ability to use their money as they see
           | fit likely won't understand my take. Those that do, are using
           | the currency today.
        
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