[HN Gopher] Which dinosaurs lived in your hometown?
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       Which dinosaurs lived in your hometown?
        
       Author : hwayne
       Score  : 288 points
       Date   : 2022-05-26 16:40 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (dinosaurpictures.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (dinosaurpictures.org)
        
       | moffkalast wrote:
       | Fish, apparently.
        
       | pachico wrote:
       | Could not resolve location for "Barcelona, Catalonia, ES"
       | 
       | :(
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | Really. It found Yeovil (UK) which is smaller than your
         | neighbour - BDN!
        
         | ninth_ant wrote:
         | That's what it says for my hometown unless I switch to a more
         | recent year. The error message is a bit confusing I think, the
         | tip to change the year isn't super obvious.
         | 
         | Interestingly, Barcelona doesn't show up until you hit 0 years
         | ago, so perhaps it's location is extremely recent on the
         | tectonic scale?
        
       | bronikowski wrote:
       | Only 600 millions years ago my Central European city was a beach
       | front to the mega-Ocean. Would be sweet to see it but the lack of
       | infrastructure could get annoying.
       | 
       | Very fun project.
        
         | duxup wrote:
         | The in and out shallow seas in N. America provide a lot of
         | beachfront ... under water ... beach front and on and off again
         | activity.
         | 
         | Amazing how much a few hundred million years will change
         | things.
        
       | srcreigh wrote:
       | See here for the dinosaurs by region [1]
       | 
       | [1]: https://dinosaurpictures.org/
        
         | orthecreedence wrote:
         | These are all renderings. Why no photos?
        
           | the_af wrote:
           | > _These are all renderings. Why no photos?_
           | 
           | Alas! It would seem the Time Travel machine somehow erases
           | the photos during the return trip, so renderings is all they
           | can do.
        
           | fluctor wrote:
           | Photos of fossils?
        
       | jasim wrote:
       | There have never been dinosaurs in my town. We've always
       | maintained a big board in both local and regional languages that
       | said "DINOSAURS KEEP OUT".
        
       | gus_massa wrote:
       | If I change the date in the top right, does it change the list of
       | dinosaurs or just change the map?
       | 
       | It would be nice to show small pictures of the dinosaurs instead
       | of just links to the main page of each dinosaur (that has a few
       | pictures).
        
         | dtagames wrote:
         | It doesn't seem to. It does, however, change the epoch
         | description in the bottom left, which is well-written and
         | informative. The arrow keys are cool for moving through eras.
        
       | kristopolous wrote:
       | It'd be nice if it followed land and not just location.
       | 
       | I'm sure it's more complicated then I think, but this model is
       | kinda silly
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | Bloody plate tectonics! When you watch geo[thingie] at this
         | speed you start to appreciate how there is no such thing as
         | terra firma. Take the UK and Ireland - thanks to sea level
         | changes it expands and contracts pretty madly and that's only
         | change in one dimension. At several points it was part of the
         | European land mass and faster than you can say Brexit the
         | Dogger bank floods over and Neanderthals got wet feet.
         | 
         | If you also tried to follow land, you'd have to account for
         | subduction and whatever the opposite of that is on continental
         | scales and land created by volcanoes and lost by volcanoes
         | exploding etc on a smaller scale.
        
       | elvis70 wrote:
       | If you are using a computersaurus with a 4:3 screen like me, you
       | will have to zoom in to get the list of fossils.
        
       | Simon_O_Rourke wrote:
       | We've still got AT&T and an IBM in my hometown, there's probably
       | even a few PHP web-shops there too!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | at-fates-hands wrote:
         | We still have 3M who up until recently had a business formal
         | dress code for all employees. I know several friends who turned
         | down jobs because they were not cool with having to wear a suit
         | the entire day they were coding.
        
         | vehemenz wrote:
         | PHP is more like birds. Technically, they're dinosaurs, but
         | they've evolved and stayed relevant after Perl, etc. went
         | extinct.
        
           | boringg wrote:
           | I believe you mean they are more like pterosaurs
        
             | sophacles wrote:
             | I bet they mean birds, aka modern dinosaurs. This is a good
             | 'aka' because dinosaur made baby dinosaurs who grew up to
             | make their own baby dinosaurs. Each generation was slightly
             | different than the last and after millions of years, the
             | baby dinosaurs were named birds!
        
               | boringg wrote:
               | Well any dinosaur that existed and flew wasn't actually a
               | dinosaur but rather a pterosaur. However I did a quick
               | spot check and realize that modern day birds didn't
               | evolved from pterosaurs but rather from dinosaurs
               | _surprised_. So I stand corrected.
        
               | sophacles wrote:
               | > Well any dinosaur that existed and flew wasn't actually
               | a dinosaur but rather a pterosaur.
               | 
               | I believe you mean: "but rather a pterosaur or bird".
        
           | [deleted]
        
         | tiffanyh wrote:
         | You must not be referring to their HQ.
         | 
         | Because AT&T is in Texas and IBM is in New York.
        
       | m0ngr31 wrote:
       | For living in "Dinosaurland", the list of dinosaurs that lived
       | near me is pretty low
        
         | Ensorceled wrote:
         | Same with anything around the Badlands in Albert ... 2 or 3
         | listed.
        
       | gwbas1c wrote:
       | It it doesn't answer the question, "Which dinosaurs lived in my
       | hometown?"
       | 
       | Seriously, I clicked on the link thinking I'd be able to get a
       | list of the dinosaurs that are believed to have lived in my
       | hometown. As cool as this link is, it doesn't answer "Which
       | dinosaurs lived in my hometown?"
        
         | pbiggar wrote:
         | It shows the dinosaurs in a very light grey over the white
         | background. You can find it just below the city search box.
        
         | OJFord wrote:
         | Others are commenting like it does though, I couldn't get a
         | dinosaur list either fwiw.
        
           | Ensorceled wrote:
           | Depends on the place. Enter a town/city where dinosaurs
           | fossils were found and it will show a couple. But even the
           | few fossil hotbeds I checked will only show 2 or 3.
        
         | manachar wrote:
         | If you enter a place it will provide a list of fossils
         | potentially nearby.
         | 
         | It seems limited and not quite as cool as as say, showing a
         | field guide of dinos in your area during a time period.
        
           | chucksta wrote:
           | Thats what it does, you can adjust the year at the top
        
         | libraryatnight wrote:
         | I was expecting to be able to click the globe where I live and
         | see Dinosaur info.
         | 
         | seems you have to use the search for place.
        
         | cududa wrote:
         | Good to know it wasn't just me who couldn't find an option to
         | answer the actual thing it purports to tell you
        
           | Ensorceled wrote:
           | Apparently 0 dinosaurs roamed the area around Toronto,
           | Ontario. We weren't even underwater at the time.
        
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         | pvg wrote:
         | That's because the poster made up a clickbait title, which they
         | shouldn't have done.
        
           | dcdc123 wrote:
           | No, it does list the dinosaurs, it is just a very limited
           | database. Most cities I tried had none but Dallas, TX for
           | example listed a few.
        
             | pvg wrote:
             | The title of the site is not the submitted title.
        
         | iambateman wrote:
         | This link was extraordinarily fascinating, and I learned a lot
         | but it didn't deliver on that promise for me, either.
        
       | smm11 wrote:
       | There must have been a lot in Los Angeles, given the oil
       | derricks. All that liquid T-Rex goodness. No idea where this hunk
       | of land was 60+ million years ago.
        
         | takinola wrote:
         | You're probably just making a joke but in case others are
         | wondering, your SUV is almost certainly not powered by
         | liquified T-Rexs. Instead, most hydrocarbons we have today come
         | from plants ie plankton-like creatures. Also, the position of
         | hydrocarbons is not dictated by the population at that point in
         | time on the earth's surface. Instead, think of the earth like a
         | giant porous sponge with the occasional impervious rock
         | formation that traps the liquid. The hydrocarbons accumulate in
         | those traps over time and lead to the reservoirs we now tap for
         | oil.
        
       | orthecreedence wrote:
       | I always think the waves on Pangea's coast must have been huge.
       | All that wind blowing and no continents to stop the waves from
       | forming.
        
         | manthedudeguy wrote:
        
       | throwaway290 wrote:
       | I can't help but take depictions of dinosaurs like
       | https://dinosaurpictures.org/Streptospondylus-pictures at face
       | value, until I catch myself and remember they may be quite wrong
       | considering we are limited to fossils:
       | https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/science-m...
       | (tl;dr https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/natashaumer/dinosaur-
       | an...).
        
       | whatever1 wrote:
       | If they were still around we would get to see Buffalo fried
       | Fruitadens wings.
        
       | aksss wrote:
       | Lame, no worky. Maybe cuz I'm browsing on a phone instead of
       | computer? I get no list, the only thing that changes with time
       | period is a general description.
        
         | nawitus wrote:
         | Try another city. The site didn't show anything for my
         | location.
        
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       | termios wrote:
       | nothing is showing up for me. luckily i already know the answer:
       | bryozoans, bryozoans, and more bryozoans
        
         | thamer wrote:
         | I also wasn't seeing anything, until I used "[?] A" to select
         | all text, and noticed that the list of animals or plants for
         | the city I selected was displayed at the top left, in white
         | text over a white background. Selecting all made it slightly
         | more visible, enough for me to read the text.
         | 
         | Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/VQjfvQZ.png
        
       | shagie wrote:
       | One of the neat bits from this is going to 340 Mya and look at
       | where the Appalachian mountain range runs.
       | 
       | You can hike part of the Appalachian trail in Spain
       | https://www.geologiadesegovia.info/the-international-appalac...
       | and Ireland https://iatulsterireland.com
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trai...
        
         | 3A2D50 wrote:
         | I have relatives with property along a river in Bath county
         | Virginia. Across the river stands a ~200ft high cliff with
         | caves that go for miles. I was told that they were formed by
         | the ocean. That explanation bothered me because the caves face
         | west. Now it makes sense! They have also discovered seashell
         | fossils by the river!
        
         | divbzero wrote:
         | Earth's land and water hemispheres [1] were particularly stark
         | in contrast back in the time of the dinosaurs. Are there
         | geological theories as to how the asymmetry formed? Could major
         | impact events from astronomical objects have played a role?
         | 
         | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_and_water_hemispheres
        
           | shagie wrote:
           | In digging on it, Ancient Supercontinents and the
           | Paleogeography of Earth looks to be an interesting book
           | https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780128185339/ancient-
           | sup...
           | 
           | This appears to be part of a geologic scale cycle -
           | https://www.livescience.com/38218-facts-about-pangaea.html
           | 
           | > The current configuration of continents is unlikely to be
           | the last. Supercontinents have formed several times in
           | Earth's history, only to be split off into new continents.
           | Right now for instance, Australia is inching toward Asia, and
           | the eastern portion of Africa is slowly peeling off from the
           | rest of the continent.
           | 
           | > Based on the emergence of other supercontinents in the
           | Precambrian supereon (4.5 billion to 541 million years ago),
           | it appears that supercontinents occur periodically every 750
           | million years, according to a 2012 study in the journal
           | Gondwana Research (opens in new tab).
           | 
           | > Most scientists believe that the supercontinent cycle is
           | largely driven by circulation dynamics in the mantle,
           | according to a 2010 article in the Journal of Geodynamics
           | (opens in new tab).
           | 
           | Water/land hemispheres would then be an artifact of that
           | cycle. Given that cycle, it will happen again -
           | https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-think-earth-s-
           | next-s...
        
       | 99_00 wrote:
       | Anyone else love Dino Dana?
        
       | asveikau wrote:
       | I think it's interesting that at 260 million years ago, Europe
       | and the eastern US seem to be at relatively the same distance as
       | today (maybe a little closer), but you have most of Africa wedged
       | in the middle of them.
        
       | tiffanyh wrote:
       | I never realized until seeing this 3D globe that literally an
       | entire side of the earth only had water.
       | 
       | I've seen drawings of Pangaea before but never in a 3-dimensional
       | sphere.
       | 
       | Just interesting to see and entire 1/2 of the earth with nothing
       | but ocean.
       | 
       | I wonder how common this is on other planets.
        
         | 323 wrote:
         | I remember reading about how it's periodic, continents split
         | apart then come together again in a cycle. Not in the same
         | configuration obviously.
        
         | padobson wrote:
         | We're not too far off right now:
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_and_water_hemispheres
        
       | divbzero wrote:
       | Are there sci-fi stories with the premise that a character wakes
       | up transported to a different planet except it's later revealed
       | that it's actually Earth in a distant time?
        
         | datavirtue wrote:
         | Land of the Lost. I suggest the Wil Farrell movie version.
        
         | govg wrote:
         | You might want to check out the Time Odyssey series. It was
         | written by Arthur C Clarke (along with Stephen Baxter) and
         | deals with similar themes.
        
         | dilippkumar wrote:
         | Not quite what you are looking for, but the Malazan series has
         | some stories spanning extremely large time scales through which
         | multiple intelligent species evolve into existence and fade
         | away.
         | 
         | It is by far, the best series I've read. Book 1 is hard to get
         | into, and doesn't reward the reader as much, but stick with the
         | series. It's worth it.
        
         | bolasanibk wrote:
         | [TVTrope Warning]
         | https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarthAllAlong
        
         | slobiwan wrote:
         | You mean besides Planet of the Apes?
        
         | drfuchs wrote:
         | [Spoiler Alert:] Original 1968 "Planet of the Apes"? It's a
         | great visual reveal in the last moments of the film; no dialog
         | needed.
        
           | rspeele wrote:
           | The whole series of movies (well, the pre-2000 iterations)
           | was recently free to watch on YouTube. They're all cheesy but
           | the original one holds up reasonably well.
           | 
           | Feels like a movie-length version of a classic Twilight Zone
           | episode, which makes sense, considering Rod Serling wrote the
           | first draft of the film's script.
        
           | thaumasiotes wrote:
           | > It's a great visual reveal in the last moments of the film;
           | no dialog needed.
           | 
           | Dialog is present and very famous, though. ("You maniacs! You
           | blew it up!")
        
         | anonymfus wrote:
         | In Doctor Who, one of the Series 12 (2020) stories had that
         | twist, and what stands this story apart from almost all other
         | uses of this trope is that the twist was not an ending, and we
         | see how characters process that reveal.
         | 
         | Please be careful if you gonna read TV tropes page linked in a
         | sibling comment, as the title of that episode is in the list of
         | examples on that page in Live-Action TV section, so you can
         | accidentally spoil yourself all the fun.
        
       | causality0 wrote:
       | This is great in theory but in practice we just don't have enough
       | fossils for it to be truly interesting. It's more like "Which
       | dinosaurs lived seven hundred miles away from your hometown?"
        
       | typpo wrote:
       | Hi HN, I built this. It's been posted several times before, so I
       | can answer some common questions:
       | 
       | How does this work? I adapted GPlates [1], an academic project
       | that creates desktop software for geologists to investigate plate
       | tectonic data.
       | 
       | Is the geocoding accurate? Even though plate tectonic models
       | return precise results, you should consider the plots approximate
       | within ~100km. In my tests I found that model results can vary
       | significantly. I chose this model because it is widely cited and
       | covers the greatest length of time.
       | 
       | How should I interpret the maps/colors? The graphics that wrap
       | the globe are provided by Dr. Christopher Scotese, a geologist
       | who runs the PALEOMAP project. You can learn more about the
       | project and the creation of the rasters here [2]. You might also
       | notice some old national borders. I just work with what I can
       | get!
       | 
       | Why can't it look up my location? Your location probably didn't
       | exist at the time, geologically speaking. Try switching to closer
       | to present day (e.g. 66 Mya)
       | 
       | Where are all the dinosaurs? Despite the title of this post, the
       | visualization isn't really meant to show an exhaustive list of
       | dinosaurs or fossils (the list doesn't even show on mobile). If
       | you want to dig into data on fossils near you, check out the
       | Paleobiology Database Navigator [3].
       | 
       | [1] https://www.gplates.org
       | 
       | [2]
       | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-q0WIa7ofISFHyBe4UxvN8DIPs8...
       | 
       | [3] https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/
        
         | davelacy wrote:
         | This is one of the coolest web apps I've seen... awesome work!
        
         | nsrose7224 wrote:
         | This is really cool, where is SnowBall earth at ~700M years ago
         | though? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
        
         | tills13 wrote:
         | one suggestion is that rotation should be disabled by default,
         | disable itself when you manually move the globe, or at least
         | not hidden behind a toggle
         | 
         | otherwise very cool
        
         | 323 wrote:
         | Is the rotation lock when viewing North/South Pole intentional?
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal_lock
        
       | dataspun wrote:
       | equivalent to spam in its current iteration
        
       | throwaway743 wrote:
       | Not seeing any dinosaur info on mobile. Using Android and FF
       | browser
        
       | necovek wrote:
       | I like how this has former Yugoslavia (including Slovenia,
       | Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia and Macedonia) borders :)
       | 
       | Belgrade only got rid of the water when dinosaurs were already
       | extinct according to this.
        
       | heckelson wrote:
       | I just had fun putting a pin into my hometown and discovering
       | that it was at the equator at some point (300 mio years ago)!
        
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