[HN Gopher] Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU AmpereOne
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       Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU AmpereOne
        
       Author : ksec
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2022-05-28 16:58 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.servethehome.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.servethehome.com)
        
       | tomatowurst wrote:
       | I would like to try out Ampere servers but unfortunately Oracle
       | seems out of stock after the free tier promotion
        
       | funstuff007 wrote:
       | If Ampere ever became available, it would make sense for all
       | businesses to host non-realtime work loads on-prem. You might not
       | even notice a change in your electric bill.
        
         | bhouston wrote:
         | The internet speed and reliability would be poor and you would
         | require in house expertise to maintain the infrastructure even
         | if it is simple. I think it still makes sense to rent them from
         | providers.
        
           | funstuff007 wrote:
           | > require in house expertise to maintain the infrastructure
           | 
           | much less than companies spend on keeping all the Windows
           | boxes running to keep Excel running.
        
       | MarkovChain242 wrote:
       | Yeah, I would love to be able to buy an ARM server (or a RISC-V
       | server), but so far that's just impossible.
       | 
       | Let's just limit the discussion to Ampere. There is supposed to
       | be Gigabyte G242, with several SKUs, that supports an older
       | version of their chips. I've had extensive email discussions with
       | Gigabyte sales staff, and yet I've been unable to find a _single_
       | reseller that will even backorder any version of the G242 for me.
       | And there 's even a G252 now. Lovely!
       | 
       | Yes, there is a supply chain crisis. Yes, ordering novel products
       | is never easy, nor cheap. But, heck, do I understand why Intel
       | has a lock on the server market...
        
         | my123 wrote:
         | Small unit count availability is still problematic for now.
         | 
         | For Ampere, there has been the AVA Developer Platform ($5450,
         | 32-core) recently: https://www.ipi.wiki/products/ava-developer-
         | platform but that's not a cheap solution.
         | 
         | Given the history of NVIDIA, will be really interesting to see
         | what happens there too.
        
           | trsohmers wrote:
           | Not sure why you bring up NVIDIA, unless you don't know that
           | the ARM acquisition was cancelled.
        
             | abbeyj wrote:
             | https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/taiwans-tech-titans-
             | adopt...
        
             | happycube wrote:
             | They've got their own ARM server chip coming out anyhow.
        
         | machinekob wrote:
         | I think we are lock out cause of gigant-scalers (cloud
         | providers) and labs maybe in few years we can get some cool ARM
         | servers for cheap :P.
        
           | 41b696ef1113 wrote:
           | Do Microsoft/Amazon/Google sell their retired cloud hardware?
        
             | happycube wrote:
             | Not AFAIK, but Amazon's been selling Graviton 1 to
             | Microtik.
        
             | kleton wrote:
             | They do, but only commodity parts like cpus
        
         | moondev wrote:
         | FWIW: https://store.avantek.co.uk/arm-servers.html
        
       | ykl wrote:
       | Is there any word yet on if AmpereOne implements SVE (scalable
       | vector extensions)?
        
         | my123 wrote:
         | It does not. ARMv8.6 with PAC and MTE, but no SVE.
        
       | freemint wrote:
       | Sweet. I had a decent experience with the 80 core variant.
       | 
       | I am a bit dubious about the many core in china explanation and
       | would rather explain it with lower cost.
        
       | jazzythom wrote:
        
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