[HN Gopher] Mosquitoes kill more than 700k people every year (2017)
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       Mosquitoes kill more than 700k people every year (2017)
        
       Author : ddtaylor
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2022-05-30 21:20 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | boomboomsubban wrote:
       | Maybe it's just me, but the link is in Spanish and you can change
       | it at the top. Or this should be the English link.
       | https://www.isglobal.org/en/-/mosquito-el-animal-mas-letal-d...
        
         | jannes wrote:
         | It appears to be based on this blog post by Bill Gates from
         | 2014 (if you want to read the original):
         | 
         | https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/Most-Lethal-Animal-Mosquit...
        
       | henearkr wrote:
       | It's not mosquitoes per se, but the plasmodia they carry, that
       | kill people.
       | 
       | So, if we could design a cure for mosquitoes, that would be
       | really a good thing for both humans and nature.
       | 
       | Maybe similar to what we already do with wolbachia to cure
       | mosquitoes of arboviruses such as dengue or zika.
        
       | Victerius wrote:
       | How there hasn't been a horror movie about mosquitoes is beyond
       | me.
       | 
       | Jaws has made almost everyone afraid of sharks. Yet, in the last
       | century, there have been only 1,000 recorded deadly shark
       | attacks. Mosquitoes kill between 1,500 and 2,000 people _every
       | day_. Source: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/08/chart-of-
       | the-day-mosq...
       | 
       | On a more scientific note, it is my firm belief that the benefits
       | of exterminating all species of mosquitoes on the globe far
       | outweigh the consequences on the food chain. If I had Bill Gates
       | money, this is one of the projects I would work on.
        
         | wrs wrote:
         | The Gates foundation has granted billions of dollars for
         | malaria research including mosquito control. And Bill himself
         | released some (possibly imaginary) mosquitoes into the TED
         | audience to make this point, which was pretty hilarious.
         | "There's no reason only poor people should have the
         | experience," he said.
        
         | car_analogy wrote:
         | > Jaws has made almost everyone afraid of sharks. Yet, in the
         | last century, there have been only 1,000 recorded deadly shark
         | attacks.
         | 
         | Ghosts and zombies have claimed even fewer lives. Meanwhile, no
         | horror movies are about cancer or heart disease.
        
         | wincy wrote:
         | The Mist does a pretty good job of making mosquitos terrifying.
        
         | CamperBob2 wrote:
         | Same reason we have horror movies about nuclear plant
         | accidents, but none about coal plants that emit more pollution
         | and kill more people.
         | 
         | Mosquitoes aren't just deadly, they're _boring_ , and that's an
         | even worse sin.
        
           | teakettle42 wrote:
           | Don't forget heart disease.
           | 
           | I can imagine the movie now. Day after day, year after year,
           | people making bad health choices.
           | 
           | How exciting.
        
         | bricemo wrote:
         | My theory is it's because people respond emotionally to drama
         | but not numbers. A shark attack, a plane crash, and an
         | explosion are all much more dramatic but less deadly. What
         | would the dramatic terror scene be? Someone swiping away a
         | mosquito? Very boring. So that's not what gets made into
         | movies.
         | 
         | Secondly, the Gates Foundation does a TON of work with
         | mosquitos and protective nets! They have saved tens of millions
         | of lives. Whenever I have some money to donate and do research
         | on what is the most effective use of each dollar, mosquito nets
         | rise to the top.
        
         | nataz wrote:
         | I present to you 1994's Mosquito
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito_(film)
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | Don't forget '93s Skeeter
           | 
           | https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0108154/
        
             | GauntletWizard wrote:
             | I enjoyed Mansquito:
             | 
             | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0430334/
        
         | chewz wrote:
         | 96 percent of deaths are in Africa and 80 percent of deaths in
         | Africa are children below 5 years old..
         | 
         | I do not want to be cynical but that statistic might explain
         | inaction...
         | 
         | https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
        
         | SnowHill9902 wrote:
         | If you are reasonably healthy, reasonably young, and reasonably
         | well-off, you'll most probably not die from any mosquito-
         | transmitted disease. And most people think that they belong to
         | that group. None of the above will protect you from a shark
         | once it found you.
        
           | boeingUH60 wrote:
           | To add, sharks are literal scary freaks...in pictures, not to
           | talk of seeing such a beast in real life.
           | 
           | On the other hand, I've killed more mosquitoes than I care to
           | remember.
        
           | jefftk wrote:
           | Even in that group, you're still probably more likely to die
           | by mosquito then shark?
        
             | SnowHill9902 wrote:
             | I guess it depends on your Bayesian updating model.
        
       | shironandon wrote:
       | world population is 7,950,593,684 and rising..
       | 
       | source: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
       | 
       | So if mother nature really plans to curb our numbers mosquitos
       | need to try a bit harder.
        
         | kzrdude wrote:
         | The same can be said about covid
        
         | Victerius wrote:
         | As someone who also believes that human overpopulation is the
         | source of many of our problems, including climate change, I
         | could not wish for the mass death of other human beings. Low
         | birth rates, economic pressures, and increased access to birth
         | control and education for women are going to take care of the
         | issue.
        
         | Finnucane wrote:
         | Malaria used to routinely kill millions every year. Antimalaria
         | programs have made a lot of progress, but a lot remains to be
         | done, for sure.
        
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       | rossdavidh wrote:
       | "humans by the way are second behind the mosquito, causing
       | 475,000 deaths every year..."
       | 
       | Depending on your background, you are either amazed that we are
       | the second-biggest threat to ourselves because it's so self-
       | destructive, or because you were convinced we had to be our own
       | worst enemy.
        
         | rdubz wrote:
         | "Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around
         | the world."
         | 
         | https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/global-road-safety/index...
         | 
         | Seems to me that traffic deaths are "caused by" humans... not
         | totally surprised they have decided those don't count, but I
         | feel that that's wrong.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Mosquitoes kill more than 700k people every year (2017)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23351643 - May 2020 (392
       | comments)
        
       | ffhhj wrote:
       | Mosquitoes are amazing biological drones, will find a victim by
       | breath and skin smell (ie. toes), will conceal on dark surfaces
       | from a distance so they have a space model of their victim's
       | location, they also search for holes in clothing and bite thru it
       | if possible. If they get too full of blood and heavy will walk to
       | a safe location, will dodge attacks from larger animals, and
       | begin a erratic flight pattern and free-falls to get lost. Also
       | they are born with enough energy to fly a considerable distance.
        
       | csdvrx wrote:
       | Yet due to the precautionary principle, we will not eradicate
       | them as a species, since it might cause some human death.
       | 
       | It seems illogical to me that almost 1 million dead for sure is
       | preferable to a low percentage risk of a few thousand that might
       | die say due to chemical pollution from the bugspray selected:
       | even at a very conservative 1% risk, eradicating mosquitoes can't
       | cause 100 million death -- and that's only counting 1 year, while
       | we should use a sum over 10 years, but even then with a 5%
       | discount rate for uncertainty it still doesn't make sense to
       | prefer inaction.
       | 
       | I believe it's a case of status-quo bias.
        
         | svnt wrote:
         | You should look into the DDT effort and the consequences of it.
         | You are grossly oversimplifying and making it sound like
         | everyone is just sitting around leaning on "the precautionary
         | principle."
        
       | verisimi wrote:
       | Gah!
       | 
       | Quick! Lets's shut down the economy (except for big corporations)
       | and make everyone wear bee keeper's clothes if they have to go
       | out!!
        
       | sonicggg wrote:
       | This is incorrect. Mosquitoes do not kill anyone, but rather the
       | pathogens they carry. They are just the vector.
       | 
       | If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I
       | killed you?
        
         | moron4hire wrote:
         | This is the sort of technically correct that functionally
         | doesn't help anyone, like arguing "guns don't kill people,
         | bullets do".
         | 
         | If you intentionally broke quarantine, knowing you were sick,
         | knowing you could get other people such, yes, you killed that
         | person. That is not controversial.
        
         | dijit wrote:
         | > If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it
         | mean I killed you?
         | 
         | if you did it intentionally; yes.
         | 
         | Relevant/related topic (though about another transmissible
         | disease):
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV
        
       | WithinReason wrote:
       | "In the 20th century alone, malaria claimed between 150 million
       | and 300 million lives, accounting for 2 to 5 percent of all
       | deaths."
       | 
       | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/
        
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