[HN Gopher] SomaFM ___________________________________________________________________ SomaFM Author : Datenstrom Score : 510 points Date : 2022-05-31 17:08 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (somafm.com) (TXT) w3m dump (somafm.com) | itsoktocry wrote: | So awesome to see this here. Been listening to, donating to and | recommending SomaFM since for 15 years. | moralestapia wrote: | PopTron was my favorite station for years, many good memories | there. | | Give them a chance if you haven't yet. | tbatchelli wrote: | SomeFM is such a rarity these days, a reminder of how we believed | the Internet was going to be. | | They take recurring donations. Probably the best way to help them | and one of the best investments for me, as keeping it up and | running is a way to keep these naive ideas alive. | | The music is curated and is most excellent (for my taste, of | course). I have Groove Salad on speed dial in my HomePods around | the house (through TuneIn radio). | | Thank you Rusty for sticking with it! | paulcole wrote: | > SomeFM is such a rarity these days, a reminder of how we | believed the Internet was going to be. | | Let me start out by saying that SomaFM is great. | | But when I started listening to SomaFM (nearly 20 years ago), I | never imagined that for only $10/month I'd be able to listen to | (essentially) any song whenever I wanted. That's amazing and so | much more valuable (to me) than what Soma offers. | tbatchelli wrote: | To each their own, I guess. I also pay for Apple Music and | have access to all that music, but there is no substitute for | curation with a sense of taste and musical direction. | | For me, having access to all the music in the world is only | marginally better than what I had before when buying CDs (or | records even); I don't listen to more music than before. What | I really love, instead, is being introduced to a new track | that captures my interest, a track that I know I will be | listening to multiple times in the future. The quality, and | the fact that I would have probably not have found it by | myself, or not liked it without the context. | | When I was younger, when I had enough pocket money, I would | go to the record store, and the problem wasn't how to get a | CD, because they had oh so many!, but what CD to get. For | this, I relied on friends, radio stations, and the shop | keepers. They all had a good portion of the music world in | their head, with their own taste and opinion about what's | interesting, and I found many gems this way. Automated | recommendations don't quite do it for me, nor I have been | lucky with other people's playlists; I gotta get acquainted | with the curator first in order to trust their curation. | | So I listen to SomaFM, and when something gets me interested | I go and buy it or add it to my library. Best of both worlds! | hfourm wrote: | To be honest, Pandora has served that role for me over the | years. I am always amazed to look back at my Pandora | station history to see how it has evolved into different | streams/genres, all stimulated from hearing new music | through a Pandora channel, and then starting a new station | after I liked it. This has created a web of new music I | wouldn't have sought out otherwise. | | Obviously, I do think that a human DJ may perform this role | better in some cases/genres though. | inferiorhuman wrote: | My favorite part of SomaFM is that I discover new artists | (or get encouraged to go on a deep dive) fairly | regularly. I've never bothered with Pandora or Spotify | but the impression I get is that SomaFM is much better | with the more niche genres. | Barrin92 wrote: | > I'd be able to listen to (essentially) any song whenever I | wanted. | | For a while now I've considered this to be more of a curse | than anything else because at least personally I've noticed | that the constant hopping replaces genuinely paying attention | with quantity. I now pick a handful of albums per month or | pick an NTS session I like and re-listen much more. | atoav wrote: | Oh my mother _loves_ SomaFM. The thing is that you can just | switch it on an it is good, and it will be in 5 years time as | well without you having to do anything at all. | huron wrote: | But how do you find new songs for you to put on your | playlists? | | That's why SomaFM and online stations like KCRW are so | valuable. They're ways to introduce new music and even new | styles of music to the listeners. | kleiba wrote: | Isn't that what recommender systems are for? /scnr | spidersouris wrote: | I use Spotify but I loathe their recommendation algorithm. | What I do when I want to discover new songs is that I | search for a user playlist on r/spotify, or if there is a | particular song I like, I use this website[1], which I | recently discovered and which enables one to specify a song | and get a list of public playlists featuring this song. It | works pretty well in my case. | | [1] https://www.chosic.com/spotify-playlist-search-tool-by- | song-... | AdmiralAsshat wrote: | I see alot of ambient/electronic radios, but not much by way of | pure chiptune. Which is a pity. I haven't found a true | replacement for kohina.com yet, and that site is surely only | hanging on until someone remembers that they're still paying a | hosting bill. | dobin wrote: | Listening to this since musciforhackers.com went down. Donated a | bitcoin back when they were still cheap. Rusty also DJ's at | Defcon. | wrycoder wrote: | My favorite SomaFM channel is Doomed. But, they now run it only | around the time of Halloween. I would categorize it as Halloween | Dark Industrial Ambient. | | They had a new channel, The Dark Zone, which ran for awhile as a | Special. It was OK, but Doomed is unique. | gamedna wrote: | God I miss Tag's trance trip. (@tagloomis) | https://twitter.com/tagloomis eventually merged with soma but its | not the same as it used to be. Now its called the trip. | kofejnik wrote: | Wow, no mention of chromanova.de yet? | ilkka_es wrote: | I discovered SomaFM channels (SomaFM, Secret agent, GrooveSalad) | from iTunes Radio around 2003. Listened to it always while | working on my computer while studying in university. Good | memories and so happy they are still around! | tarentel wrote: | Same here. I didn't realize it was still around and not only | that the links still open in the apple music desktop app and | you can save them in a playlist. Unfortunately doesn't look | like they carry over to the phone app but they have a paid app. | mergy wrote: | Wonderful to see SomaFM getting some visibility here. Groove | Salad and XMas in Frisco have always been great for me. Rusty has | been a constant honestly since the end of the 90s and always been | the go-to for me. Great Roku app too btw. | justinzollars wrote: | I used to listen to SomaFM in 2005 while I was in Grad School! It | was awesome! | _jal wrote: | Definitely one of the gems of what we now call the indie-web. | | I envy Rusty his attention span. | cartoonfoxes wrote: | I remember this from way back when, even the channel icons, but | it had blurred together with Digitally Imported. I didn't realize | it was a separate entity until now. | jmspring wrote: | Listening to it right now. It's an easy platform to explore a | bunch of different music. I'm usually parked on Secret Agent, | Boot Liquor and occasionally other channels. Reminds me I should | donate (which I do with random regularity). | indigodaddy wrote: | Radio Paradise [1] is also going strong after 20+ years. | Fantastic curation and you can even stream in lossless for free | (or at least I seem to be able to from the Android TV app). | | [1] https://radioparadise.com/ | eamonnsullivan wrote: | What I like about RadioParadise is that I don't have to pigeon- | hole the music I listen to. Sometimes you _do_ want a | particular genre, and other times I 'm happy to be led by an | expert curator. RadioParadise is superb for the latter. | loudmax wrote: | I love Radio Paradise! | | One of the best things about it is how the main mix transcends | genres. I consider it basically a rock station, but they'll | also play Country, Jazz, Blues, Pop, Classical and | miscellaneous other stuff. In a single song set you can easily | go from Led Zeppelin to Radiohead to Johnny Cash to Arctic | Monkeys to Stevie Wonder to Billie Eilish to JS Brahms to some | West African singer you'd never had heard of otherwise. It's | great for musical discovery. | nodomain wrote: | Thanks dude, long forgotten! I was listening to it some 15 | years ago... | anderiv wrote: | Agreed! | | I've been "harvesting" their playlist (via their published RSS | feed) for ~5 years now, storing an entry for each played song | in a MySQL db table. I'm not doing anything with this data | right now, but at some point in the future when Bill & Rebecca | retire, I take comfort in knowing I'll be able to munge | together a lot of RP-quality playlists. :) | sakopov wrote: | Wow, I haven't heard this name for a while. I switched from Soma | to DI.FM years and years ago mostly because I was super active on | DI's forums and they used to stream my mixes. Glad to see it's | still around. It's definitely a gem from the old days of | internet. | harel wrote: | Around 1999 I created thumpradio.com, which was the "streaming" | website for the Thump Radio radio show and (mad) parties in San | Francisco. The site streamed all the radio shows, DJ sets (in | RealAudio) and had artist bios and track downloads. You could | stream music interwoven with interviews for days on end. The site | is long gone, with some ghosts of it on the Wayback Machine but I | have forever memories from that time. | blevin wrote: | Still have cassette tapes of Thump Radio shows on KUSF, and | memories of enjoying the RealAudio sets. I also remember them | calling out the show identification in various languages, where | the only words I understood were at the end: "... Thump Radio." | Great stuff -- thank you. | harel wrote: | HA! I recorded one of those show ids in Hebrew at the time. | Completely forgot about that. I am pretty sure all those | recordings do exist somewhere. Mason Rothert was doing all | things radio there and it was beautiful to watch (and | listen). | lushdog wrote: | https://psychedelicized.com/ Has some nice unknown 60-70s | psychedelic tracks. Let are lots unknown good but also very bad | stuff from this time. | | Fun to listen to while working. | neals wrote: | Wow, I totally forget about this since Spotify. I used to listen | to Groobe Salad all the time :) Thanks, donating and tuning in to | some nice ambient beats and grooves! | petecooper wrote: | I made a $50 donation many years ago, and some months later a | black t-shirt with SOMA FM emblazoned on it arrived completely | out of the blue. To this day, it's the only garment I own (and | still wear) with a story attached. | captaincaveman wrote: | Used to listen to these guys years ago, lost track of them, glad | to see they are still going. | cuhlur wrote: | unova wrote: | Thanks for this! This made my day/week/month :D | jmclnx wrote: | Listening to it now, and I did donate :) | seydor wrote: | I don't understand why internet radio has died. Sure, spotify etc | but broadcast music is different. Radio didn't die because CDs | existed | kdmccormick wrote: | did $10/mo give you access to almost every CD ever released, | playable anywhere? | myself248 wrote: | I've recently gone back to buying CDs. | | I got annoyed with stuff "going gray" in my Spotify | playlists, just vanishing out of the blue after I'd fallen in | love with it and wanted it to be part of my mood and given | that mood a name and curated a whole menagerie to go with it. | | Soma's no answer to that, so this is way off-topic. But | streaming services are no replacement for the CD. I'll rip | and encode and curate on my own devices, especially now that | it's trivial to pop a 128GB microSD card into my phone. | seydor wrote: | it's enough to buy 1 album per month. of course it s not the | same, but i don't like to listen to every cd ever. The rare | times i really wanted to hear something i could pirate it. I | still enjoy radio streams for the low mental overhead though, | plus u get the news too | karlzt wrote: | I miss: https://www.digitalgunfire.com/. :( | spiffydave wrote: | Love it! Been a fan for many years. Would still love to find the | archive of music/sounds from musicforhackers.com from years ago. | That was an epic channel. | piebob wrote: | you might like the DEFCON channel on somafm | siegelzero wrote: | Did you mean this site? It has some pretty great content. | https://musicforprogramming.net/one | spiffydave wrote: | That is cool! But no, Music for Hackers was a great combo of | ambient/underground music overlaid with old movie audio | samples and other stuff. Played from maybe 2000-2008 or | something? Can't remember when it died. | | https://web.archive.org/web/20010402042427/http://musicforha. | .. | asselinpaul wrote: | https://worldwidefm.net is worth a listen | jacamera wrote: | A lot has changed over the past 20 years but playing | http://somafm.com/groovesalad.pls on Winamp remains the same. I | started donating $5/mo a few years ago because I appreciate | having such a valuable constant in my life more and more as time | goes on. | drorwolmer wrote: | I created https://wfh.dj so I can listen to new music from my | subscriptions (>20m) without the youtube procrastination rabbit | hole. | | Mostly House, Electronic, Jazz (Stuff me and the team like to | listen to while we work). | lepasana wrote: | Thanks for sharing this page with all HN visitors. I didn't know | it until today. I see that all the folks around here have a great | teast with all this old stuff from the early days of the | Internet, it reminds me that old time too. | idid wrote: | SomaFM is an amazing institution. I was introduced to it | mid/early 2000's by travelling tech nomad from Germany that | passed by Bucharest; I spread it to my family (dad keeps a | recurring donation going and we have a family heirloom soma fm | t-shirt). Fast forward to now, my 2mo old seems to enjoy Space | Station Soma, and, if I'm lucky, falls asleep on Deep Space One. | | I hope future generations will get to enjoy it. As others said | (tbatchelli), "it's an example of how we believed the Internet is | going to be". | | Thanks! | guerrilla wrote: | Really impressive that they've stayed online nearly 20 years. I | used to listen to this and MonkeyRadio all the time. They've | added a lot of new channels though. | a-dub wrote: | hah! was just wondering what happened to monkeyradio... iirc it | was one of the winamp developers who did the selecting... | guerrilla wrote: | It died but the playlists are on Spotify and elsewhere. | threeme3 wrote: | Me too.. monkey radio was really great! | | https://web.archive.org/web/20040622004325/http://www.monkey... | Legion wrote: | Love SomaFM, have their 15 year anniversary channel list poster | up in my office. | | Been listening since the days of the original 3 channels (Groove | Salad / Drone Zone / Secret Agent). I loved so much when cliqhop | came out and streamed more abstract electronic music, especially | since "electronic music" in streaming was always so heavily | either ambient (cool) or club/dance music (ehh). | | But I really want to highlight Metal Detector, the metal channel | they started a few years ago. I've always found metal streaming | stations underwhelming. MD is the first one I've heard that | effortlessly cuts broadly across the various subgenres and eras, | and doesn't fall into the traps of just playing the arena-filling | stuff, or getting locked into one specific niche. | tootie wrote: | Neat. I do this with public radio (KCRW, WQXR, WFMU) but this | opens up a lot of variety. | quantumfissure wrote: | Consider adding WXPN to your repertoire. They're out of the | University of Pennsylvania in Philly. Incredible selection of | music and commercial free. https://xpn.org/ | joemi wrote: | WFMU is truly amazing. I've been listening to them for decades, | have several friends who have done shows there and/or | volunteered, and I even performed live on air there once many | years ago. But what's truly amazing is their show archives and | playlists, almost all the shows are recorded and streamable, | going back many many years. | | There are a bunch of radio stations that get this right | currently, but WFMU is one of the only ones (or maybe THE only | one?) that's been getting it right for soooooo long. | zeruch wrote: | The fact that they are still around is a testament to "Web 1.0" | always having been worthwhile... | iisan7 wrote: | First used it as background music for a 60s secret agent themed | party. Since then it's been a holiday tradition to listen to the | Christmas stations. Every year when I find out it's still online | it's like a nice present. | johnchristopher wrote: | I have been listening to SomaFM for more than 15 years now. There | are some real gems on it. It's a vestige of what was one of the | best time for internet at the turn of the century. I often set | deep space one to a 15 minutes timer before falling asleep. | | The only thing I don't like is how 1 out of every 25 songs is | just random noises with out of tune deep bass. Oh well, then I | switch to drone zone or liquid or something :). | Lapsa wrote: | soma is awesome indeed. long time listener | pixel_tracing wrote: | Can I run this from terminal, and fantastic for producing this | dataqat wrote: | Just saw this Mac CLI player referenced on Reddit | https://github.com/rockymadden/somafm-cli | Datenstrom wrote: | Found this thanks to HN and have been really enjoying it for work | and study music over the last month. It's hard to keep a good | playlist that doesn't get stale, anyone have other stations? I | also use Music for Programming[1] and various lofi playlists | often. | | [1]: https://musicforprogramming.net/latest/ | nittanymount wrote: | this is great! has been listening for a while when need a nice | background music at work | tonyfader wrote: | SomaFM has always ruled, and will continue to rule for the | foreseeable future. | | Also, Starstreams is old-school and remains great. Easiest to | listen to them via iHeartRadio app on my TV these days.. | | Mixcloud is fantastic as well. | | And Mixlr is nice depending on the DJ. | linsomniac wrote: | I had somehow forgotten about SomaFM, used to listen to it all | the time but haven't in over a decade. I think I thought it had | been shut down, I'm probably thinking of LastFM. | ryandrake wrote: | I found SomaFM to be a much better music discovery experience | than the "big company" generic recommendation systems. I found | some real gems there, and the gem-to-vanilla ratio is higher than | most. I assume SomaFM's playlists must be manually/human curated, | with tracks rotated in and out regularly, to be this good. | spiffydave wrote: | This page from the Wayback Machine brings back so many memories | from MusicforHackers.com: | | https://web.archive.org/web/20010402042427/http://musicforha... | leokennis wrote: | Personally I love https://www.di.fm which is similar but geared | towards electronic music. They have fantastic channels for most | subgenres (think "dub techno", "disco house" etc.) and they | stream in 320kbps. | | I don't claim golden ears but Soma FM streaming at 128kbps seems | needlessly outdated? | binwiederhier wrote: | I re-discovered SomaFM the other day. I was listening to that | maybe 15 years ago. I couldn't believe it was still online. Great | music. | Claude_Shannon wrote: | Thanks for sharing this website, it's really great! :) | habi wrote: | I have these three aliases in my ~/.bashrc: alias | somafm='mplayer -really-quiet -vo none -volume 128 -playlist | http://somafm.com/groovesalad.pls' alias goa='mplayer | -really-quiet -vo none -volume 128 -playlist | http://somafm.com/suburbsofgoa.pls' alias | beatblender='mplayer -really-quiet -vo none -volume 128 -playlist | https://somafm.com/beatblender.pls' | | Thanks for the reminder to donate again! | johnchristopher wrote: | Nice :) | | Doesn't `volume 128` saturate sound though ? | arprocter wrote: | This and Digitally Imported has gotten me through a lot | alex_suzuki wrote: | DI.FM! Thanks for that litte trip down memory lane. Will tune | in tonight if it's still online. | axefrog wrote: | Di.fm has a modern UI and going as strong as ever. | mythrwy wrote: | I friggen love SomaFM. I found it by accident over a decade ago | on a Slackware installations (of all things). | | Was looking through possible Bash command prompts by typing | letters and hitting tab for autocomplete. "Hey, what is that? | soma? what does that command do?" (It was a terminal music player | with a number of stations, primarily SomaFM programmed in. There | was another one called "Air Lounge" or something that was also | good). | | And boom, Groove Salad and Beat Blender were realized. | vlod wrote: | Thanks for the reminder to donate. I've been getting into DEFCON | radio. I like all the 'quirky' clips. Even tempted to go to the | conference this year. | helios_invictus wrote: | You mean these clips?! http://nerdshow.com/def-con-somafm- | clips-with-quotes/ | vlod wrote: | Yep. thanks! | thcipriani wrote: | I still listen to SomaFM on the Logitech squeezeboxes littered | around my house. My streaming music experience is stalled out in | 2005, but I'm still blown away by how awesome it is. I'm grateful | for SomaFM. | spencerflem wrote: | This is a cool site! Thank you for showing me it <3 | cityzen wrote: | Groove salad! | jordanpg wrote: | First music I ever "streamed" and still excellent. Thank you, | Rusty! | toomanyrichies wrote: | Oh man! I haven't listened to SomaFM since like 2007. So glad | they're still around, can't wait to dive back into my old | favorite channels, like "Drone Zone" and "Secret Agent". Gonna | start a recurring donation as well. | nyanpasu64 wrote: | They have an Android app | (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dgmltn.rad..., | https://radiomg.pw/) but sadly it does not appear to be open- | source. | dijit wrote: | SomaFM was what I used to listen to on backtrack Linux back in | the day, as it was one of the sites bookmarked in firefox. | | wierdly enough I literally remembered about them 2 hours ago and | put on defcon radio. Weird to see it pop up again now after i had | forgot about it for so long. | electrotype wrote: | SomaFM is one of the sites I like to donate to when I can. I also | use their Amazon affiliate link as an Amazon bookmark. Drone Zone | has been my main background music when working for a couple of | years now! | browningstreet wrote: | My streaming life is mostly Radio Paradise and GrooveSalad | (both). I've spent time looking for more stations to love (esp | since my car streams TuneIn) but I haven't really found other | stations out there to listen to on the regular. They're pretty | singular. | 5- wrote: | see also: https://poolsuite.net | edbaskerville wrote: | Happy to learn about this. | | I'm going to add a shout-out to my lower-tech SF favorite, | community-supported KPOO 89.5, featuring a wonderful array of | programs hosted by kindly volunteer DJs. Plus, their stream works | most of the time. (If you're in range, I recommend sticking to | actual FM to be safe.) | aeschenbach wrote: | baby bay-bay! | werds wrote: | i have to shoutout to another online radio station that is run in | the same vein as SomaFM https://vintageobscura.net/ | rektide wrote: | I really miss Shoutcast/Icecast being such an active part of my | life. The quality is way down, and there's like 1/6th the | channels there used to be. For electronica in particular, there | was just so much. But there were also so many random niche | stations! | | SomaFM continues to be a great place for highly genre-d music. I | make sure to give em money semi-regularly. Suburbs of Goa[1] is | one of my favorite. | | [1] https://somafm.com/suburbsofgoa/ | foresto wrote: | > For electronica in particular, there was just so much. But | there were also so many random niche stations! | | Indeed. I remember regularly switching between Massinova and a | rebroadcast Polish classical station whose DJ had a nice voice. | soylentcola wrote: | There are still quite a few though. I have several bookmarks on | my normal PC and in AIMP on mobile. I never did "outgrow" my | practice of using multiple bookmarked streaming stations as my | daily "radio dial". | bambataa wrote: | There may not be as much Icecast stuff but internet radio is | doing very well. | | Someone else has already mentioned nts.live (it has a huge | range of stuff, more like a radio station) but other UK-based | stations are balamii.com, supremefm.com and rinse.fm (Rinse | used to be a pirate radio station but went legal). | | Internet radio stations are the go to for up to date music | really. | threeio wrote: | Good to know SomaFM is still round, its been 20+ years at this | point. | eatwater123 wrote: | My favourite. Please remember to donate if you can! A little | slice of internet & music heaven. | W-Stool wrote: | I've been donating to SomaFM for many years, and it is my music | provider of choice in my home office (Space Station Soma for me). | Some years ago I had an afternoon to kill while visiting San | Francisco and Rusty was kind enough to let me stop by and say | hello. A quick 10 minute visit turned into one of the most | interesting two hours I've spent in my entire life. Rusty gave me | the whole tour of the software interface that runs SomaFM and we | had a fascinating discussion about the history of SomaFM in | particular and streaming music in general. Thanks again Rusty! | netsharc wrote: | Did you meet Big Url too? | W-Stool wrote: | I always thought it was "Big Earl". You're right! | rosseloh wrote: | It's been several years but I also had the pleasure of meeting | Rusty down at the studio once. My dad has now made it a habit; | he's been to SF for work and pleasure four or five times now, | and met up with him each time, I believe. | | I have been listening to Soma for at least 15 years. Definitely | a great place to have bookmarked. | baobob wrote: | I've been listening since 2004. Every 4 or 5 years I'll | realize how much it's been a part of my life through thick | and thin, and write him a gushing email. He always has the | grace to reply. | | Would absolutely love to meet him some day | meerita wrote: | I love the station that mixes ambient + SF service radio | rvbissell wrote: | Thanks to this HN post, I just installed the Android app of | SomaFM. But, I can't find a way to re-orient the app to landscape | mode on my tablet. Is this not supported? | kacy wrote: | I've probably been streaming SomaFM off and on for the last 15-20 | years. Thanks for the reminder to donate! | xenon2 wrote: | codetrotter wrote: | I think I used to listen to SomaFM, or something with a similar | name. | | If so then that's one of the radio streams I found via the xiph | Icecast directory. | | https://dir.xiph.org/ | | You can listen to these Icecast stations using for example VLC | media player, or mpv, or you can also play them directly in most | web browsers. | aarestad wrote: | I found SomaFM 22(!) years ago via Shoutcast, and have been a | listener ever since, even making sure to come back after they | briefly went off the air due to an early-00s fight over streaming | fees. Love it love it. Thanks for keeping SomaFM ad-free all | these years, Rusty - I will donate till I die. <3 | skor wrote: | big thank you to somafm!! | | sidetracking a little here but a good one for idm is | https://verdure.net/ | [deleted] | jonahbenton wrote: | +1000. Off and on listener and subscriber for 20 years. After | dropping Spotify, adding them back to my subscription cohort. | amerine wrote: | Groove Salad For Lyfe | PaulDavisThe1st wrote: | Groove Salad, or Groove Salad Classic? | vlowther wrote: | Yes. | internetvin wrote: | If you're into unique well curated collections of music across | wide ranges of genres, I highly recommend checking out NTS Radio, | it's also listener supported: | | https://nts.live | [deleted] | pdxpatzer wrote: | thank you for the reminder to donate ! I listen to soma.fm all | the time ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-05-31 23:00 UTC)