[HN Gopher] Office 365 implementing AI to detect employees collu... ___________________________________________________________________ Office 365 implementing AI to detect employees colluding, leaving and more Author : CPAhem Score : 22 points Date : 2022-06-02 21:39 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (pupuweb.com) (TXT) w3m dump (pupuweb.com) | tpmx wrote: | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/compliance/co... | librarianscott wrote: | So, now we can't use Teams to have the "water-cooler" moments | that supervisors claim we need, but really we are having them on | Signal or IOS and they just can't measure that. Organizations | really, really, really hate transparency. | throwaway0a5e wrote: | They don't want you shooting the shit with company | communications mediums because that has limited upside and much | less limited potential downside. | | Remember the famous "will the atom bomb test ignite the | atmosphere" gentleman's bet those scientists had? Nobody | actually thought it would but they discussed it semi-seriously. | Today discussing some fanciful bad outcome like that (be it the | mundane failure to deliver a product or something more | interesting) is a liability when it's sitting in your company | email servers. Even if that bad thing isn't what winds up | happening or the people speculating aren't in a position to | have accurate info the other side's lawyer or the regulator | will try and construe it as proof that the company should have | known ahead of time. | | Or, more likely, say there's some sexual harassment or adultery | kerfuffle between employees. It's way better for the company if | none of that happened on company provided communications tools. | | From the company's perspective it's avoidable risk to have work | communication tools be used for informal BSing between | employees. But they can't realistically prevent that so they | introduce Skynet in order to make people watch their mouths and | move those sensitive conversations elsewhere. | mc4ndr3 wrote: | Having employees is a big potential liability. Having a | corporation is a big potential liability. Drinking water is a | big potential liability. I guess just don't do anything at | all and then recalculate your risk metric. | throwaway0a5e wrote: | I have zero confidence that this system is smart enough to | differentiate between all these things and the legitimate | variants thereof (e.g. collusion and cross team collaboration are | basically indistinguishable) that companies actually want people | doing or discussing and likely outnumber the bad by orders of | magnitude. | humbleMouse wrote: | If you've ever thought your employer isn't monitoring the chat | then you're a fool. I'd go as far to say that if you think there | is any form of electronic communication that isn't being | monitored on some level you're also being foolish. | tpmx wrote: | One approach is to run/work for small companies with smart | people who trust each other without surveillance. | gtvwill wrote: | Lol depends what industry your in. Im a one man band msp so I | literally set up these catch all employee tracking systems. | Most folks don't realise they exist, even fewer use the data | produced by the systems. Legit 90% of the time it's just kept | in case of gov audit or something going pear shaped and we | need proof it wasn't us. | | Trust is all well and good, but trust ain't gonna pass an | audit or get you out of trouble if shit hits the fan. | tpmx wrote: | Small software companies doing innovative things. Any | business area that _might_ need an external audit is a | severe red flag in this context. That also typically means | it 's less fun, IMO. | | A software company running a Microsoft-based email/etc | system is also a red flag in this context. I mean, why... | gtvwill wrote: | Eh, it's in healthcare. Specifically disability support. | I get a kick out of building software that makes | providing support for these folks that need it. It makes | their lives better, helps them achieve their goals. But | it's also a largely tax payer funded industry in my | country so hence the audits. Which is ok, as a tax payer | myself I'd be pretty gutted if we as a country weren't | auditing companies getting our hard earned tax dollar | especially if they are in a sector like healthcare. | Angostura wrote: | Remember the gfood old days of Usenet with signatures that | deliberately contained keywards to try and DDoS the NSA's "line | eater" | m-p-3 wrote: | Next step will be to detect potential attempt at unionizing. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-06-02 23:00 UTC)