[HN Gopher] The children of atomic bomb survivors: A genetic study ___________________________________________________________________ The children of atomic bomb survivors: A genetic study Author : bryanrasmussen Score : 84 points Date : 2022-06-04 16:19 UTC (6 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) (TXT) w3m dump (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) | NiceWayToDoIT wrote: | So, there you go it seems having full fledged nuclear war is | quite safe. :) (sorry for dark humor) | acidburnNSA wrote: | If you stay completely inside for the first 2 weeks you'll | probably be ok, radiation wise. If you're unsheltered in the | first hours in fallout you will get a fatal dose in a matter of | minutes and die a painful death over the next few days. So if | you see the blast and survive the pressure wave then get the | hell inside and stay there for 2 weeks no matter where you are. | Try not to ventilate too much. | | https://www.oism.org/nwss/ | speed_spread wrote: | In the words of South Park: "Duck And Cover!" | mjreacher wrote: | In case it hadn't been noticed to some readers, this is actually | a book and clicking on the "Contents" button reveals a table of | contents. | podiki wrote: | Good spot. This is more of a special issue or collection, | reprinting previous research (not sure if previously | unpublished is also included) under this theme. | ridgeguy wrote: | Entire book available for free download at: | | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK234265/ | | under "Views", right-hand column. | nonrandomstring wrote: | While in airforce service my father was briefly stationed in the | South Pacific for "the tests". I wish I'd asked him more while he | was alive. AFAIK he was one of the lucky ones, a _long_ way | upwind. He 's the only person who ever told me about seeing a | mushroom cloud eating up the horizon. I have sometimes worried if | I might pay a price for that. | jpindar wrote: | My high school physics teacher was stationed at Eniwetok and he | told us a lot about it. His job was photography, and he showed | us some impressive photos of the explosions, including some | showing lightning striking the top of the mushroom cloud. | | He mentioned that his son was adopted, though whether that was | by necessity or out of caution I don't know. | | Anyway, he lived to an apparently healthy old age. | nonrandomstring wrote: | Thanks for sharing. Being a photographer must have meant some | line of sight exposure I guess. My old man was a radio | operator. As I understand it, they were investigation the | effects on communications, so he got stuck in a shack | listening to the EMP, guess he would have heard that | lightning in his headphones. | weinzierl wrote: | I find this super interesting. Around the time Chernobyl happened | I remember that damages for the subsequent generations were | widely sold as a fact by the media. | | At university I had to do a course in radiation protection and | that was the first time when I heard this idea challenged. | Especially that we needed to distinguish between teratogenic | damage to the unborn during exposure and potential genetic damage | passed on to children conceived after exposure. The former was an | established fact the later a possibility no one had found proof | of. | | The article seems not only to corroborate this, but also my | impression that these two things are regularly confused. | | _" Inasmuch as even today the issues are occasionally confused, | a clear distinction must be drawn between these studies and | studies on the children in utero at the time of the bombings."_ | pyuser583 wrote: | If I remember right, the effects of radiation exposure for most | residents of Pripyat is much less damaging than smoking two | packs of cigarettes a day. | | That's one of the problems with assessing the damage from | indirect exposure - things like drinking, smoking, lead | exposure, asbestos exposure, etc. are bigger irritants. | | And control groups are very hard to manage for long term | (lifelong) studies. | tyingq wrote: | I imagine it's hard to say, given the amount of control the | USSR had over the press. | | There's this credible sounding account of a little girl dying | in Pripyat from radiation exposure: | https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/books/voices-from- | chernob... | trhway wrote: | >the effects of radiation exposure for most residents of | Pripyat | | Chernobyl didn't have much radiation directly radiated, and | the residents of Pripyat were relatively promptly evacuated. | The Chernobyl impact has been all about fallout. A bunch of | Russian soldiers for example who took over Chernobyl 3 month | ago and stayed there for a month until retreat, and who did a | lot of digging and armor driving without any PPE in one of | the most polluted places there - Red Forest - already got | acute radiation sickness as a result and the rest will have a | lot of problems down the road from all that fallout dust they | ingested. | | Another example highlighting the fallout - Belarus where the | regions most hit by Chernobyl fallout are, ie. Homel and | Mogilev, has almost 50% higher cancer rates than Russia and | Ukraine (those 2 have pretty close rates between themselves | and similar to Belarus patterns of smoking, drinking, | nutrition, etc) mostly due to the higher cancer rates in the | Homel and Mogilev region. There is also some indications | about higher rate of children birth defects and various | genetic illnesses there. Those children naturally weren't | exposed to Chernobyl's direct radiation, it is its fallout | which continues to exist there. | yieldcrv wrote: | concordDance wrote: | Tl;dr: damage to the genes of adult atomic bomb survivors isn't | noticeable in the kids they concieve after the bombings. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-06-04 23:00 UTC)