[HN Gopher] Behind the Ferrari and Lamborghini rivalry
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       Behind the Ferrari and Lamborghini rivalry
        
       Author : mhb
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2022-06-06 11:48 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | iancmceachern wrote:
       | It's a story as old as time.
       | 
       | You can choose to work together, or not.
        
       | fosk wrote:
       | Buy a Ferrari if you want to race, buy a Lamborghini if you want
       | to shop on Rodeo drive.
        
         | short_sells_poo wrote:
         | Modern Ferraris are amazing driver's cars. To this day, the
         | single best driving experience I've ever had was in a 458
         | Speciale. There are better engineered cars, there are faster
         | cars, there are more comfortable cars, but this to me is the
         | embodiment of what a car can do. It is just an amazing feeling
         | to drive it. It's like using a precision instrument that
         | somehow immediately becomes an extension of your body. It's
         | really uncanny.
         | 
         | None of the Lamborghini's I was fortunate enough to drive came
         | close to this.
        
           | WalterBright wrote:
           | Ferrari got rid of the gearshift :-(
        
       | troelsSteegin wrote:
       | "Let me make cars. You stick to making tractors." - Enzo Ferrari
       | to Ferruccio Lamborghini. That's got to be an all time top 10
       | customer support fail. But, after that, it's how many owners for
       | Lamborghini the car company, until AUDI AG? Maybe tractors are
       | not so bad.
       | 
       | The wonder for me is the meanings of the names of the different
       | models. "Countach" apparently sounds like "wow" in Italian.
       | "Diablo", ok. Gallardo is after a fighting bull. Aventador is
       | after another fighting bull. Urus, after aurochs, really big bull
       | predecessors. Murcielago is bat, but maybe that's bull bats.
        
         | tdido wrote:
         | El Diablo and Murcielago were also fighting bulls.
        
         | caycep wrote:
         | granted, I feel like sometimes, snobby customer service is a
         | feature/"experience" and not a bug for certain classes of
         | Veblen goods!
        
         | ffhhj wrote:
         | > "Let me make cars. You stick to making tractors." - Enzo
         | Ferrari to Ferruccio Lamborghini. That's got to be an all time
         | top 10 customer support fail.
         | 
         | In these days of automated responses I'd be happy with such
         | answer, instead of a request for ID and a delay of weeks to let
         | me know they are reviewing the case.
        
       | pmontra wrote:
       | > The name "Countach"? It is pronounced coon-tasch and simply
       | means "wow" in Italian.
       | 
       | In the dialect of the place, not in Italian (I'm Italian.) I
       | learned the origin of the name a few years ago. I always thought
       | it was an English word or something and always mispronounced it.
        
         | inferiorhuman wrote:
         | What I'd heard is that "countach" is the sort of expletive
         | you'd say when you saw a beautiful woman. Although to be fair
         | using regional slang makes some sense as the Countach dates to
         | around the time that Italy was transitioning to Standard
         | Italian.
        
           | bozhark wrote:
           | That's sounds like some Americanized Italian cunt.
           | 
           | So, with a mustache
        
           | barry-cotter wrote:
           | > Although to be fair using regional slang makes some sense
           | as the Countach dates to around the time that Italy was
           | transitioning to Standard Italian.
           | 
           | ? Tuscan was the written standard for Italian since Petrarch
           | and the Piedmontese conquest of Southern Italy was done by
           | 1871. Admittedly colonization took a long time but it's a
           | very long time since anything but Tuscan has been used in
           | official or prestige circumstances in Italian.
        
       | joebob42 wrote:
       | I'm surprised how few cars this is in total. It's kind of cool
       | the brand has such a big impact with only low thousands of cars.
        
         | blocked_again wrote:
         | Lamborghinis are ERC721s. Toyotos are ERC20s.
        
       | legitster wrote:
       | There is a version of the story here where Enzo is not wrong.
       | 
       | His #1 focus was building cars that won races. He was clear about
       | that. And people bought his car because they won races.
       | Lamborghini made amazing cars... that did not win many races.
       | 
       | There are not many accounts of Enzo being a likeable person, or a
       | great engineer, or even a particularly good business man. But it
       | wasn't a "mistake" how he treated Ferruccio's ideas.
       | 
       | So, maybe the moral of the story is listen to your customers. But
       | it could also be: don't compromise and you'll still do fine, and
       | they will go out and make what they want.
        
         | caycep wrote:
         | It depends on the culture perhaps. "not invented here syndrome"
         | often practiced by many tech companies.
         | 
         | Granted, as an aside, my understanding is the 250 GTO line of
         | models were meant as an afterthought to fund the racing side of
         | things, but to my eye, they are the most beautiful Ferrari
         | models. The supercar/racing inspired models often look ugly to
         | me.
        
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