[HN Gopher] Behind the Ferrari and Lamborghini rivalry ___________________________________________________________________ Behind the Ferrari and Lamborghini rivalry Author : mhb Score : 46 points Date : 2022-06-06 11:48 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (www.granturismoevents.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.granturismoevents.com) | iancmceachern wrote: | It's a story as old as time. | | You can choose to work together, or not. | fosk wrote: | Buy a Ferrari if you want to race, buy a Lamborghini if you want | to shop on Rodeo drive. | short_sells_poo wrote: | Modern Ferraris are amazing driver's cars. To this day, the | single best driving experience I've ever had was in a 458 | Speciale. There are better engineered cars, there are faster | cars, there are more comfortable cars, but this to me is the | embodiment of what a car can do. It is just an amazing feeling | to drive it. It's like using a precision instrument that | somehow immediately becomes an extension of your body. It's | really uncanny. | | None of the Lamborghini's I was fortunate enough to drive came | close to this. | WalterBright wrote: | Ferrari got rid of the gearshift :-( | troelsSteegin wrote: | "Let me make cars. You stick to making tractors." - Enzo Ferrari | to Ferruccio Lamborghini. That's got to be an all time top 10 | customer support fail. But, after that, it's how many owners for | Lamborghini the car company, until AUDI AG? Maybe tractors are | not so bad. | | The wonder for me is the meanings of the names of the different | models. "Countach" apparently sounds like "wow" in Italian. | "Diablo", ok. Gallardo is after a fighting bull. Aventador is | after another fighting bull. Urus, after aurochs, really big bull | predecessors. Murcielago is bat, but maybe that's bull bats. | tdido wrote: | El Diablo and Murcielago were also fighting bulls. | caycep wrote: | granted, I feel like sometimes, snobby customer service is a | feature/"experience" and not a bug for certain classes of | Veblen goods! | ffhhj wrote: | > "Let me make cars. You stick to making tractors." - Enzo | Ferrari to Ferruccio Lamborghini. That's got to be an all time | top 10 customer support fail. | | In these days of automated responses I'd be happy with such | answer, instead of a request for ID and a delay of weeks to let | me know they are reviewing the case. | pmontra wrote: | > The name "Countach"? It is pronounced coon-tasch and simply | means "wow" in Italian. | | In the dialect of the place, not in Italian (I'm Italian.) I | learned the origin of the name a few years ago. I always thought | it was an English word or something and always mispronounced it. | inferiorhuman wrote: | What I'd heard is that "countach" is the sort of expletive | you'd say when you saw a beautiful woman. Although to be fair | using regional slang makes some sense as the Countach dates to | around the time that Italy was transitioning to Standard | Italian. | bozhark wrote: | That's sounds like some Americanized Italian cunt. | | So, with a mustache | barry-cotter wrote: | > Although to be fair using regional slang makes some sense | as the Countach dates to around the time that Italy was | transitioning to Standard Italian. | | ? Tuscan was the written standard for Italian since Petrarch | and the Piedmontese conquest of Southern Italy was done by | 1871. Admittedly colonization took a long time but it's a | very long time since anything but Tuscan has been used in | official or prestige circumstances in Italian. | joebob42 wrote: | I'm surprised how few cars this is in total. It's kind of cool | the brand has such a big impact with only low thousands of cars. | blocked_again wrote: | Lamborghinis are ERC721s. Toyotos are ERC20s. | legitster wrote: | There is a version of the story here where Enzo is not wrong. | | His #1 focus was building cars that won races. He was clear about | that. And people bought his car because they won races. | Lamborghini made amazing cars... that did not win many races. | | There are not many accounts of Enzo being a likeable person, or a | great engineer, or even a particularly good business man. But it | wasn't a "mistake" how he treated Ferruccio's ideas. | | So, maybe the moral of the story is listen to your customers. But | it could also be: don't compromise and you'll still do fine, and | they will go out and make what they want. | caycep wrote: | It depends on the culture perhaps. "not invented here syndrome" | often practiced by many tech companies. | | Granted, as an aside, my understanding is the 250 GTO line of | models were meant as an afterthought to fund the racing side of | things, but to my eye, they are the most beautiful Ferrari | models. The supercar/racing inspired models often look ugly to | me. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-06-07 23:00 UTC)