[HN Gopher] Jimmy Carter Is Still Trying to Protect Alaskan Wild... ___________________________________________________________________ Jimmy Carter Is Still Trying to Protect Alaskan Wilderness Author : 1vuio0pswjnm7 Score : 45 points Date : 2022-06-12 20:48 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.alaskapublic.org) (TXT) w3m dump (www.alaskapublic.org) | kinnth wrote: | Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further | developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do | nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously | lobbied individuals keep trying to change that. | CA0DA wrote: | For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case | is more nuanced than the headline may sound: | | > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land | to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an | all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports. | notch656a wrote: | A well connected, wealthy person with no real worries about | their own access to medical professionals and no real roots in | Alaska feigning to act for the good of nature but in the | process acting against the interest of these communities? Say | it aint so. | [deleted] | swayvil wrote: | We upvote what we like, downvote what we don't like. Such dog | damn simple creatures we are. | mod wrote: | I personally don't consider that nuanced. | | I live five miles from pavement, an hour from a hospital, so I | understand these concerns. | | I would be absolutely disgusted if they paved through my local | national forest for some quicker access to... Anything. | Literally anything. | | Those people all have the choice to leave. Living in remote | places comes with many, many tradeoffs and inconveniences. | There's no safety in the wilderness. | | Keep the wild places wild. There's so little left. | phkahler wrote: | It's not about the residents of King Cove. BTW they've either | been without that road for 40 years, or moved there knowing the | situation. | | It's about power and control if you go by this part: | | "The split panel decision would allow the secretary, without | any public process or without compliance with any other laws, | to engage in a backroom land exchange," | hanniabu wrote: | That's a pretty fucked up clause | notch656a wrote: | 45% of households in King Cove have children who had no | choice in whether the road is there or not 40 years ago. It's | hard to just blame them that "they knew the roads weren't | there" when they were born thus they're not allowed roads to | medical care the way I (and probably you) are. | mod wrote: | I would sooner take the children away or force the | residents to move than pave a road through the Alaskan | wilderness. | | I wouldn't do those things either, though. People get to | choose where and how to raise their children. Children | don't get a say so in virtually anything that affects them. | | "Think of the children" is not a good argument. | | Also the whole population is like 1200 people. We're | talking about a relative handful of kids. Like one very | small elementary school (edit: Google search says there's | 87 kids in PK-12th grade. Combined.) | ivanhoe wrote: | > they've either been without that road for 40 years, or | moved there knowing the situation. | | It's a really weird argument, you're basically saying that | people shouldn't be allowed to upgrade their infrastructure | ever? Imagine saying that for some poor country: "Oh, well, | they either had no running water before, or they knew the | situation before moving there, so screw them, they can just | continue walking 5 miles every day to bring water from the | spring". | | Also they've been without that road a lot longer than 40 | years, King Cove exists since at least 1930s. Population is | dropping so I doubt many people have been moving there, most | of people live there their whole life....and if they get sick | or injured and planes can't land, they're screwed without | that road. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-06-12 23:00 UTC)