[HN Gopher] My 40-liter backpack travel guide
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       My 40-liter backpack travel guide
        
       Author : ronyfadel
       Score  : 211 points
       Date   : 2022-06-20 15:48 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | DustinBrett wrote:
       | Traveling light is an enjoyable feeling, at least for me it was.
       | I traveled around the world for quite a few years on an Osprey
       | Escapist 20L, which I just used last week for travel as it's
       | still my main bag.
       | 
       | Those packing cubes are indeed great, as is folding clothes.
       | Packing light comes with the acceptance of doing laundry,
       | otherwise for me at least it was quite easy to do and I much
       | preferred the mobility it gave me.
       | 
       | I had started traveling originally with a Osprey Kestrel 38L but
       | slowly whittled down my necessities to 20L's.
       | 
       | My travel gear from mostly a decade ago when I went to 50
       | countries:
       | https://www.flickr.com/photos/dustinbrett/albums/72157626006...
        
       | keyme wrote:
       | Always fun to see that someone that ridiculously rich still lives
       | just like the next dirtbag (me).
        
       | throwaway1777 wrote:
       | Looks like the eth price collapse has vitalik living on the cheap
       | /s
        
         | titanomachy wrote:
         | Yeah that's some real minimalism. I wonder if he's the only
         | billionaire in the world who lives full-time out of a backpack.
        
           | paulpauper wrote:
           | he probably never was a billionaire . He's lost so much over
           | the past 4 months I don't think he's that rich anymore. i
           | think he also is borrowing against his eth too. He put the
           | eth up as collateral and spends against it without having to
           | sell it.
        
           | latchkey wrote:
           | SBF is probably not as minimalist, but he has a similar
           | belief system. I wish more of crypto would adopt that and
           | drop the lambo culture.
        
         | coolspot wrote:
         | His dad is living like a king of Canada though.
        
       | dubswithus wrote:
       | I'm considering adding a second piece of luggage to carry kitchen
       | hardware, electronics, and an air quality sensor. Minimalism is
       | seriously a waste of time.
       | 
       | I also only stay in places with washer/dryer and do laundry every
       | day because of running. I'm not going to hang disgusting sweaty
       | clothes. I still have a lot of shirts, shorts, and extra socks
       | because I like to change during the day as well.
        
         | ravenstine wrote:
         | > Minimalism is seriously a waste of time.
         | 
         | Depends on what a person values out of their travel. I totally
         | get why people bring lots of things with them during travel.
         | 
         | I personally like being nimble and not having to pay extra for
         | a checked back for air travel. Lugging around heavy bags really
         | annoys me. If I'm playing my travel by ear, sticking to one
         | light bag keeps things stress free. Minimalism is certainly not
         | a waste of time in my case. It can be a waste of time if
         | someone gets comfort, pleasure, or utility out of bringing
         | things like kitchen hardware.
         | 
         | > I also only stay in places with washer/dryer and do laundry
         | every day because of running.
         | 
         | Often times I don't know where exactly I'll end up, in which
         | case I can't count on a washer and dryer. That's just my
         | preference, and presumably that of others. It sounds like
         | you're making the smart choice by traveling in a way that fits
         | your lifestyle.
         | 
         | > I'm not going to hang disgusting sweaty clothes.
         | 
         | Yeah I agree. I don't rewear anything that's unwashed except
         | for a pair of jeans.
        
           | dubswithus wrote:
           | Will agree with you on the jeans. Rarely ever wash them to
           | maintain the color. Another advantage is that they still have
           | that factory denim smell. And if I do wash them I use woolite
           | darks and flip them inside out.
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | Personally, I don't wear jeans much and they're the last
             | thing I'd bring for lightweight travel. There are lots of
             | synthetic trousers that are super lightweight and easy to
             | rinse out quickly.
        
         | rjh29 wrote:
         | I'm with you, but I tend to stay in one place for a long time,
         | to get to know the area and make connections, and for my own
         | mental health. Minimalism seems better when you're constantly
         | moving.
         | 
         | Besides, one suitcase for a 1-3 month trip is still minimalist
         | by average standards!
        
       | bowsamic wrote:
       | I'm most interested to know how he handles accommodation as a
       | nomad. I would guess that he has enough money that AirBnB a lot
       | of the year is not a huge problem
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | I pretty much stay in Airbnb's all year long. You don't have to
         | be a billionaire to do it.
        
       | chx wrote:
       | Laptop stand: u-top.
       | 
       | Backpack: Greenroom136 Rainmaker. Especially in VX42 it's just
       | unbeatable. Light, durable, rectilinear, excellent organization,
       | customization above and beyond -- they will even do things not on
       | the website.
       | 
       | Charger: Excitrus 65W. If 65W is not enough, Aukey PA-B5 100W.
       | Forget multiport chargers, they suck. Charge the laptop, charge
       | everything else off the laptop.
        
       | ubermonkey wrote:
       | >I have lived as a nomad for the last nine years, taking 360
       | flights travelling over 1.5 million kilometers
       | 
       | Good CHRIST what a carbon footprint.
        
         | el_nahual wrote:
         | Legitimate question: what's the logical term for this argument?
         | Those flights would have happened without Vitalik on them, so
         | the carbon footpring is not really attributable to him.
         | 
         | Other situations seem similar (ie, "why should I go vote? my
         | vote doesn't really matter?") they really aren't: yes, I
         | shouldn't throw trash in the park, because if we all did we'd
         | be screwed--but we can't _all_ fly every 2 weeks.
        
           | kevinqi wrote:
           | Huh? Individual actions do matter. The fact that he got on
           | these flights contributes to the overall demand on flights,
           | and has certainly had an impact on how many flights need to
           | exist. The argument that not all people can fly every 2 weeks
           | is nonsensical.
        
             | el_nahual wrote:
             | Individual actions matter when they have some direct impact
             | (even if small), or if they are a subset of a broader
             | collective action.
             | 
             | So me running my car matters. I'm directly putting CO2 in
             | the air, even if _my_ contribution is small.
             | 
             | By "are a subset of a broader collective action" I mean as
             | follows: if all members of a given class/collective stopped
             | doing an act, would there be an impact? If all voters
             | stopped voting, or if all families stopped flying, or if
             | all grocery shoppers stopped buying meat, then yes,
             | elections would break, and flights would decline, and meat
             | would stop being sold. Even though _my_ vote doesn 't
             | matter, and _my_ family 's ticket doesn't matter, and no,
             | Purdue isn't going to stop factory farming chicked because
             | _I_ went vegan.
             | 
             | In Vitalik's case--and I don't mean him specifically, but
             | using him as a stand-in for a broader class of questions--,
             | two things are true:
             | 
             | 1. There's no _direct_ result between him getting on a
             | plane and the flight existing. His impact on flight demand
             | isn 't small, it's _zero_ , because flights existing are
             | non-linear. Those flights were going to be there anyway.
             | 
             | 2. He is sui-generis. He's not a vacationing family or a a
             | travelling salesman. There's no collective problem of "man,
             | excentric genius crypto billionaires fly commercial too
             | much." That just _isn 't a problem_. If Vitalik, or all
             | Vitaliks stopped flying, nothing would actually change.
             | Whereas if all families stopped flying, or all business
             | travellers--or whatever other class the vast, vast majority
             | of flyers belong to--stopped travelling, then yes, there
             | would be an impact.
             | 
             | I guess you could say "ha! 'excentric genius crypto
             | billionaires' isn't a collective! the right collective VB
             | belongs to is 'people', and if _all people_ stopped flying
             | then there would certainly be an impact! ". And that's
             | certainly an argument, but I think both sides are arguable.
        
         | SapporoChris wrote:
         | https://www.edf.org/travel-footprint-calculator
         | 
         | I ran some numbers and the air travel looks seriously trivial
         | compared to the average USA car driver.
        
           | dag11 wrote:
           | Do note that that calculator uses different units for air
           | travel and car travel. It uses MtCO2e for air and kgCO2e for
           | car travel. When I went to the calculator I saw the same as
           | you, but it turns out that with a few dozen flights a year
           | that's still a few times the carbon (once converted to kg)
           | generated by my electric vehicle (presumably from avg power
           | plant emissions).
        
       | reustle wrote:
       | Bummer to see that he recommends the Nexstand, which is a blatant
       | copycat product of the Roost https://www.therooststand.com
        
         | whimsicalism wrote:
         | Nextstand is cheaper, so seems they have copied well :)
         | 
         | Glad he recommended the affordable option
        
       | mupuff1234 wrote:
       | Packing cubes + rolling instead of folding is a great space
       | saver.
        
       | Syzygies wrote:
       | I've spend months at a time, e.g. Sicilian island hopping, with
       | less than this. For me the critical issue, which drives all
       | clothing choices, is being able to independently do laundry. That
       | is easier in frequent small batches; I can't imagine traveling
       | with eight T-shirts!
       | 
       | After washing clothes, layer them in a large wringable synthetic
       | pack towel, roll, and twist. Then they can be hung without
       | dripping, and will dry in a fraction of the time. Wring out the
       | towel and repeat. Or, if one has just arrived at a hotel with
       | towels for four, get busy before they clear three of them in the
       | morning.
       | 
       | One needs an ample supply of travel-scaled clothesline and
       | clothespin equivalents. I last traveled with tiny Nite Ize Gear
       | Ties, and a few larger ties with loops for securing the
       | clothesline ends. Be thoughtful about attachment points; foreign
       | construction quality can often be surprising.
       | 
       | I can't praise highly enough merino wool T-shirts, even in the
       | hottest weather. I found mine on closeout; they can be expensive.
       | 
       | The Aranet4 CO2 meter is an interesting pandemic choice. I own
       | one for monitoring my classroom assignments; they're very well
       | made.
        
         | martin_a wrote:
         | Do you have more information on the Merino wool? I've heard
         | good things about it but I'm not sure how much of that is hype.
         | Is it really that good?
        
           | stinkytaco wrote:
           | Not OP, but I have a lot of experience with Merino wool.
           | 
           | My opinion is that it's great, but expensive and not durable
           | as outerwear. It snags easily and if you're wearing the
           | thinner stuff, you will end up with runs and even tears after
           | a while. If you can afford $60 t-shirts, that might be fine
           | for you, but I haven't had a wool t-shirt that it didn't wear
           | through the armpits on after a couple of years of regular
           | wear. The thicker stuff holds up a bit better, but is
           | obviously not as nice in hot climates. If you're wearing it
           | as a base layer in a cooler climate, I love it.
        
             | martin_a wrote:
             | Thanks for your sharing your experience! "couple of years"
             | doesn't sound that bad to me, to be honest, so the higher
             | price could be fine.
             | 
             | As mentioned in the other comment, I just started out with
             | an endless scarf and am looking at other products, too. I
             | had a Giesswein merino sneaker recently for a test fit and
             | it was really nice on the bare foot and left a good overall
             | impression. I'm looking into getting a pair of those for
             | the office, any experience with these, too?
        
           | Rebelgecko wrote:
           | I've only owned merino wool socks but they're fantastic (as
           | long as you get ones with a fairly high percentage of merino
           | wool. 50% is _ok_ but  >60% is ideal). I can walk 10 miles in
           | my Darn Tough wool socks, take them off, and they have no
           | smell the next day. If I tried the same thing in cotton
           | socks, they'd smell like feet until I wash them. Wool is
           | pricier but IMO better at thermal regulation, and merino
           | doesn't have the scratchiness that a lot of people associate
           | with wool. I haven't tried shirts because they're pricy and
           | I'm a bit worried about durability, but if you have to carry
           | your wardrobe maybe it's worth it.
        
             | martin_a wrote:
             | Improving "breathability" for my feet would be one of my
             | goals. The example with your socks sounds good, for the
             | moment I've started with one of those "endless scarfs" made
             | out of Merino wool, because I can't stand all the synthetic
             | fibers in those things.
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | I love merino wool shirts -- even dress shirts like those by
         | Wool and Prince. But the dress shirts I only dry clean and the
         | t-shirts I have some special things I do to keep them in good
         | shape. I just wear athletic gear most of the time because I'm
         | in a hot climate and sweat through everything immediately. It's
         | just not worth it for me at this point.
         | 
         | I really like having a fancy side-loading washing machine
         | because I can run long cycles and use strong detergents that
         | definitely ensure the shirt doesn't smell the next time I wear
         | it. Ideally Persil but sometimes that isn't available. Top
         | loaders have destroyed clothes many times.
        
           | I_complete_me wrote:
           | Merino wool garments? Oh dear - I tried them but against the
           | skin they are, for me, a huge no-no due to irritation / rash.
           | I am unbelievable allergic to merino wool.
           | 
           | (The following is meant to be humorous, JIC). So I bought a
           | herd of sheep that grow polyester wool and it has worked out
           | brilliantly. I don't break out in a rash, I don't smell and
           | my sweat gets wicked to a galaxy far, far away.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | >But the dress shirts I only dry clean
           | 
           | Yeah, I bought one and it didn't really hold up very well.
           | Having to dry clean sort of defeats the purpose of having a
           | travel shirt.
           | 
           | In general, I really like merino wool but it's expensive and
           | fairly fragile even if I avoid putting it in a dryer.
        
             | dubswithus wrote:
             | I rarely have to dry clean the dress shirts under normal
             | wear conditions. I'm guessing it depends on the GSM of the
             | shirt.
             | 
             | I don't know if I would agree dry leaning defeats the
             | purpose. Most cities have a dry cleaner and dropping it a
             | dry cleaner is going to be faster than washing, drying, and
             | ironing it yourself. At least it is for me. Plus, you would
             | need to find the right kind of detergent without enzymes or
             | whatever while traveling.
             | 
             | Are you saying it fell apart?
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | It's still perfectly functional. There's just some
               | pilling and lack of color homogeneity and certainly
               | doesn't look new. I'll still wear it so long as I don't
               | really need to be dressed up which I rarely am these
               | days. (Like almost never.)
               | 
               | You're right that it wouldn't need to be dry cleaned
               | after each use under minimally sweaty conditions. That
               | said, while I have occasionally had laundry done in the
               | middle of an extended trip, by and large I don't want to
               | be dealing with laundry and dry cleaning if I don't need
               | to.
        
       | brocket wrote:
       | I'm confused by the laptop setup picture. Does he type on the
       | laptop while it's on the stand? Not ergonomic for me, my hands
       | would get tired too fast and that angle would trigger carpal
       | tunnel.
       | 
       | Is there an external keyboard everywhere he travels that's not
       | mentioned? Or is he standing? Doesn't look like it based on
       | picture.
        
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       | eimrine wrote:
       | This is the most differ guide I have ever seen from the mine one,
       | because of the crucial difference in lifestyles.
       | 
       | The most underappreciated advice from my PoV is to use warm
       | tights, but I do not see any pros of using men tights with open
       | feet over using women ones.
        
       | ubermonkey wrote:
       | I've been doing all my travel for the last few years in a
       | Cotopaxi backpack ("Allpa"); it's 35L, opens flat for easy
       | packing/organization, has sufficient pockets for tidiness, and
       | excellent external handles for managing it when it's NOT on your
       | back.
       | 
       | It's also carryon-legal for even international flights, which is
       | handy.
       | 
       | I got mine on deep discount for about half the going price now,
       | but if something happened to mine I wouldn't hesitate to buy a
       | replacement at full price.
       | 
       | https://www.cotopaxi.com/products/allpa-35l-travel-pack?vari...
        
       | diego wrote:
       | Nobody needs to travel with 8 pairs of underwear. Take two or
       | three high-quality ones (e.g. Ex Officio) and wash them at night.
       | 
       | Also, I have yet to visit a civilized location in the world where
       | you cannot buy a decent disposable razor that's better than the
       | electric shaver he carries around the world. I understand they
       | recycle pretty well too, if you're worried about waste.
        
         | reidjs wrote:
         | I disagree, I can never get them to feel quite clean enough
         | from the sink, so if I'm away a week, I prefer a new pair every
         | day. Quality of life preferences!
        
           | the_third_wave wrote:
           | I'm tempted to ask what you do with your underwear that makes
           | it so soiled that a hand wash does not get them clean enough
           | but I won't. I'll just state that even a simple rinse tends
           | to be sufficient to get it fresh enough for another day. Hang
           | it on your tent and it'll be dry the next morning - unless it
           | is stolen by a cow or horse, both of which have happened to
           | me. Pitch your tent in the evening on some mountain, wake up
           | the next morning by the sounds of a horse stealing your
           | clothes, the joys of camping in the wild.
        
             | InefficientRed wrote:
             | _> I 'm tempted to ask what you do with your underwear that
             | makes it so soiled that a hand wash does not get them clean
             | enough but I won't._
             | 
             | There exist non-dudes, and getting caught without a
             | tampon/pad is a thing that can happen for any number of
             | reasons.
             | 
             | A hand wash with unlimited water will probably get the job
             | done, but unlimited water is often a luxury.
        
               | angrais wrote:
               | While true, OP is a man, so it does also leave me
               | wondering _why_ his undies are in such a state after a
               | days use?
        
               | the_third_wave wrote:
               | A bit of soap works, doesn't it? I'll spare you the
               | details on how a somewhat over-aged sausage leads to
               | colourful underwear but a soap block and some water do
               | wonders even in that case.
        
         | hnhg wrote:
         | Very little gets recycled, in reality. It mostly goes to
         | landfill - e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/us-
         | news/2019/jun/21/us-plastic-r...
        
           | picture wrote:
           | Landfills are a very effective solution for disposing of
           | stuff when they can't otherwise be economically reused or
           | recycled. As long as food waste stays out, landfills are
           | quite inert. They should have clay lining to prevent waste
           | seeping into the ecosystem.
        
           | maxerickson wrote:
           | Please be more specific if you are going to spread that may-
           | may. It's non bottle plastic that ends up in landfills.
           | 
           | Paper, cardboard, metal, #1 plastic bottles and #2 plastic
           | bottles all recycle well.
        
             | hnhg wrote:
             | I'll try on my side below but that goes both ways - where
             | are your figures coming from, and for which
             | country/geography? You also seem to have switched the topic
             | from how much gets recycled to what can be recycled well.
             | 
             | This says that the vast majority of plastic globally is not
             | recycled: https://ourworldindata.org/plastic-pollution
             | 
             | Recycling rate for paper is much, much better, granted, in
             | many countries:
             | https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/recycling-rates-paper-
             | and...
             | 
             | The recycling of metals depends on which metal, of course.
             | 
             | In general, IMO there is far too much depressing reading
             | like this - 'An estimated 70-80% of the MSW generated in
             | Africa is recyclable, yet only 4% of MSW is currently
             | recycled': https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.
             | 11822/30975/...
             | 
             | I can't find any figures that say recycling is a success
             | story across the world, or even economically viable and
             | sustainable across most popular types of waste.
        
           | bromuro wrote:
           | Even done properly, "recycling" is not environmentally
           | friendly: "reuse" is always the better choice. That is,
           | consume less.
        
         | isatty wrote:
         | But why not? Washing every other day takes too much effort.
         | Underwear is small and packs efficiently. I always travel with
         | extra underwear and extra pairs of socks.
        
           | et-al wrote:
           | Yeah, last thing I look forward to doing while on vacation is
           | washing my own underwear in a bathroom sink. Just bring the
           | extra pairs--they weigh nothing.
        
             | wnolens wrote:
             | This is not vacationing. It's living out of a bag.
        
             | InefficientRed wrote:
             | _> last thing I look forward to doing while on vacation_
             | 
             | IDK about nomading, but when dirtbagging you have an excess
             | of time. If the sun is down then your day is done. In the
             | winter especially, having chores to do is welcome reprieve
             | from the cold and boredom. And bathrooms or laundromats are
             | so awesome. Warm and dry and bright.
        
               | cassianoleal wrote:
               | > And bathrooms or laundromats are so awesome. Warm and
               | dry and bright.
               | 
               | In my experience campsite bathrooms tend to be cold and
               | wet. Bright, sure, but not a place I'd like to spend any
               | time more than needed in. :D
        
               | InefficientRed wrote:
               | _> campsite bathrooms_
               | 
               | Gotta find a walmart or especially target. They're saunas
               | :)
        
       | vidanay wrote:
       | Why an electric toothbrush and electric shaver? Both of those
       | have well established and functional antecedents that are both
       | smaller and lighter.
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | I find an electric toothbrush is much better for busting
         | plaque. I have a Goby.
        
           | sorokod wrote:
           | so sorry to hear that...
        
             | dubswithus wrote:
             | If it breaks or the battery dies they send you a new handle
             | for free. I may switch to another brand in the future. Not
             | sure.
        
         | jabbany wrote:
         | The electric shaver "antecedent" isn't nearly as efficient as
         | the electric version...
         | 
         | (1) Those require some kind of lubricant like shaving cream (=
         | extra space cost) or shaving in a shower/with water (=
         | significantly reduced convenience). The modern electric ones do
         | not require anything and can be used dry.
         | 
         | (2) Modern disposable razors also dull quite quickly meaning
         | you need to carry many extra blades (= more space) or only
         | travel to places where you can easily buy more blades/razors (=
         | less convenience). The electric ones can last years on a single
         | set of blades and still be effective.
         | 
         | (3) The older kind of "knife-like" or "safety" razors can
         | largely get around (2) with sharpening, but as they are not
         | allowed on flights, it largely excludes them as an option.
        
           | karaterobot wrote:
           | I think having access to a sink or shower is not out of the
           | question for someone living a digital nomad lifestyle -- not
           | so much if you're hiking or camping, though. But if you live
           | in hotels or AirBNBs, there's a pretty good chance you've got
           | a shower stall to shave in.
           | 
           | In terms of dullness, I shave my head and face with a cheap
           | Amazon razor every day or two, and one blade lasts for weeks.
           | A 4-blade package easily lasts me over a month, and if you
           | remove them from the carrying case it's about the size of, I
           | dunno, a couple AA batteries.
           | 
           | One downside of an electric razor is power. I suppose a USB-C
           | based razor exists, but you probably wouldn't have very many
           | options in that format, and probably not many nice ones to
           | choose from. Perhaps that will change. In the meantime, I
           | love the Braun electric razor I use for the back of my neck
           | but it does need a little power brick and cord which,
           | together with the razor itself, are probably more than the
           | volume of several years worth of razor blade cartridges.
           | 
           | Just providing a little counterpoint to your comment, I do
           | like my electric razor and think it's probably a better
           | option for many travelers.
        
             | jabbany wrote:
             | > But if you live in hotels or AirBNBs, there's a pretty
             | good chance you've got a shower stall to shave in.
             | 
             | A lot of these also provide disposable razors, shaving
             | cream etc (either by default or if you ask the front desk),
             | so definitely a good option when it is available.
             | 
             | > one blade lasts for weeks
             | 
             | I shave every day and have used random (not name brand)
             | disposable ones during travel. In my experience it usually
             | stays usable for 3-4 days and could stretch to about a
             | week. Still, being able to just set-and-forget an electric
             | one without worrying about getting more blades has been
             | quite nice.
             | 
             | > One downside of an electric razor is power
             | 
             | Definitely agree, though, USB-C ones aside, there are also
             | compact ones made specifically for travel that have
             | integrated universal plugs & support all voltages (if you
             | have access to that).
             | 
             | I usually keep one of these in my travel bag rather than
             | bringing along my regular one which is very nice but also
             | needs an external power brick and cord to charge.
        
         | ubermonkey wrote:
         | Electric razors never really worked great for me, but my teeth
         | DEFINITELY feel nicer when I use a modern electric toothbrush.
         | If I were traveling as much as OP, I'd absolutely take one with
         | me.
        
         | corrral wrote:
         | I thought electric toothbrushes were silly until I tried a
         | modern one.
         | 
         | A manual toothbrush is not a replacement. A half-assed job with
         | an electric toothbrush will get your teeth cleaner than an
         | extremely thorough effort with a manual toothbrush. I wish I'd
         | tried one sooner. First time I used one it felt like I'd been
         | in for a full dental cleaning.
         | 
         | Bonus: their failure mode is that they become a manual
         | toothbrush. Which, if you're used to electric, does suck a lot,
         | but it's no worse of than you'd have been if you started with a
         | manual to begin with.
         | 
         | Agree about the shaver, though, but I gather some folks have a
         | lot harder time with facial hair than I do (some ordinary soap
         | in the shower and very cheap disposable razors do better for me
         | than the electric razor I had years ago) so maybe it's
         | important for them.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | >A manual toothbrush is not a replacement.
           | 
           | While I agree, carrying a manual toothbrush when traveling
           | has been one of my compromises. That said, my newish one
           | comes with a travel case so I may give that a try. Not sure
           | how long it will go without recharging but may be worth
           | experimenting.
        
           | soco wrote:
           | The electric toothbrush "failure mode" is annoying mostly
           | because the heads I use are tiny and round - definitely a
           | pain to handle precisely without knocking a tooth from time
           | to time.
        
           | Tepix wrote:
           | Can you point me to a study that shows that electric
           | toothbrushes work better than manual ones? Last time i looked
           | (a long time ago), they were still equal.
        
             | secondcoming wrote:
             | It's not a study, but the last time I was at the dentist,
             | he asked me what I used to clean my teeth since I had
             | pretty much zero plaque. Philips Sonicare.
        
               | Freak_NL wrote:
               | Our dentist definitely noticed (in a good way) when my
               | partner and I switched to electric. For a holiday trip
               | there's little point in bringing an electric tooth brush
               | along though, unless you are going for months rather than
               | days or weeks.
        
               | hombre_fatal wrote:
               | I think whether you have plaque is more of a function of
               | what you eat and that you brush consistently at all. I
               | don't have plaque either.
        
             | bowsamic wrote:
             | Two positive:
             | 
             | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3652371/
             | 
             | > The subject group using the powered toothbrush
             | demonstrated clinical and statistical improvement in
             | overall plaque scores.
             | 
             | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jcpe.13126
             | 
             | > In the long-term, powered toothbrush seems to be
             | effective in reducing mean PD and mean CAL progressions,
             | besides increasing the number of teeth retained.
             | 
             | One negative:
             | 
             | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S00206539
             | 2...
             | 
             | > The results of this study shows no evidence of
             | statistically significant difference in respect to plaque
             | control, between Jordan Power electric toothbrush and
             | either of Oral-B Advantage or Panbehriz Classic manual
             | brushes in a group of dental students after 2 weeks.
             | 
             | I'm sure you can find many more of both
        
           | dan-robertson wrote:
           | I think a while ago my dentist suggested that a quick brush
           | with a manual toothbrush would likely clear more out than an
           | equivalently quick brushing with an electric toothbrush
           | (rough theory: you can move it faster and cover more surface
           | area). But he claimed that electric is better if you use it
           | more thoroughly. I also disagree that an electric toothbrush
           | converts to a manual one. I think it converts to an unusable
           | bad manual brush because the electric toothbrush is too heavy
           | to move quickly.
           | 
           | Another toothbrush tip: toothpaste is mildly abrasive and can
           | be used as an emergency polish if e.g. you're in a hotel
           | getting dressed for a wedding and realise your silver
           | cufflinks / novelty Texas-shaped belt buckle / whatever have
           | become tarnished since you last looked at them. An electric
           | toothbrush can help a lot here.
        
           | cassianoleal wrote:
           | > A half-assed job with an electric toothbrush will get your
           | teeth cleaner than an extremely thorough effort with a manual
           | toothbrush.
           | 
           | I've had 2 electrics, one Philips SoniCare and one Oral-B
           | with the rotating head. Once broke within a year and the
           | other lasted longer but got flimsy really quick.
           | 
           | It used to take me at least twice as long to get my teeth
           | clean with either of them than it does with a manual brush. I
           | usually ran 3 cycles of the electric before I was more or
           | less satisfied with the job.
           | 
           | > Bonus: their failure mode is that they become a manual
           | toothbrush.
           | 
           | Yes but a horrible one. Small and oddly shaped brush heads
           | are not ideal for manually brushing.
           | 
           | I'm not dismissing your experience, just saying that it's not
           | universally true.
        
           | vidanay wrote:
           | Electric toothbrushes are fantastic. I own and use one twice
           | a day at home. I was strictly speaking in the context of the
           | blog post with regards to being as small and as light as
           | possible.
        
             | corrral wrote:
             | Oh, sure, if you're _really_ optimizing for as light as
             | possible I guess you could ditch the toothbrush entirely
             | and just count on buying a manual brush for a couple
             | dollars at your destination. Personally, I 'd favor cutting
             | space/weight in a lot of other areas before giving up the
             | electric toothbrush, though.
        
               | dan-robertson wrote:
               | Electric is heavier but they're also much bigger. I could
               | fit 4+ manual toothbrushes in the space that my electric
               | toothbrush travel case takes up. I think it doesn't
               | include the charger either. And the shape is quite
               | inconvenient too which constrains packing
        
           | cultofmetatron wrote:
           | I use a safety razor. delivers a great shave but the blades
           | are hard to find. stores are filled with the standard one
           | time use cartridge crap that fills landfills because you
           | can't recycle any of the plastics used in it. unfortunately,
           | you'll be hard pressed to take a back of double edge razors
           | in your check-in luggage unless you want a free trip to
           | gitmo.
           | 
           | In this context, a electric razor is your best bet for the
           | environment
        
             | Freak_NL wrote:
             | Depends on the destination perhaps, but even here in the
             | affluent Netherlands I can buy safety razors at the
             | chemist. And the lower the GDP, the better the availability
             | of no-nonsense safety razor blades.
        
         | whimsicalism wrote:
         | You can't trim with the functional antecedent.
        
           | vidanay wrote:
           | Trim what? Do you mean maintaining a 2mm fashion length
           | beard? (You can't trim with the pictured shaver either - it's
           | only for smooth shaving)
        
             | whimsicalism wrote:
             | I'll admit I hadn't clicked on the article.
             | 
             | I don't know what you mean by "fashion length" - as opposed
             | to the fashion length of 0mm? or am I missing a term of
             | art?
        
               | vidanay wrote:
               | I was trying to figure out what you mean by trimming. On
               | one end of the spectrum is smooth shaved. On the other
               | end is completely un-managed. Somewhere in the middle is
               | where "trimming" would come into play.
        
       | anuvrat1 wrote:
       | I found decathlon, quality winter wear for the price.
       | 
       | Why is he taking Ashwagandha, does it have any verified health
       | benefits?
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | When someone has vitamins (or extracts or whatever) I never
         | assume they know what they are doing.
        
           | puranjay wrote:
           | if the placebo effect works, why not?
        
             | dubswithus wrote:
             | Read this book and find out why:
             | https://www.amazon.com/Trick-Treatment-Undeniable-
             | Alternativ...
             | 
             | One of their examples was homeopaths telling patients not
             | to get vaccinated.
        
         | koshergweilo wrote:
         | A quick Wikipedia search points to no
        
           | legionof7 wrote:
           | There's some pretty good evidence for it.
           | https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/
        
       | dabeeeenster wrote:
       | "I have lived as a nomad for the last nine years, taking 360
       | flights travelling over 1.5 million kilometers (assuming flight
       | paths are straight, ignoring layovers) during that time."
       | 
       | I guess he really doesn't give a shit about the environment
        
         | anony23 wrote:
         | He flies commercial, not private.
        
           | dabeeeenster wrote:
           | So what?
        
             | anony23 wrote:
        
         | puranjay wrote:
         | I'm sure you wrote this comment with soot on a tree bark,
         | stuffed it into a glass bottle and hoped that someone far away
         | with electricity and computers would post it online.
        
         | INTPenis wrote:
         | Don't put that blame on the consumer. The fact that we fan fly
         | from Stockholm to Riga for 50 euro isn't right. The fact that
         | the EU subsidizes airplane fuel isn't right, the fact that
         | Sweden and many other governments have until recently given
         | millions to airlines isn't right.
         | 
         | The consumer simply saw cheap flights and did what they do
         | best. The root of the issue is elsewhere.
        
         | liquidise wrote:
         | I'm confused by this take.
         | 
         | If someone said they take ICE public buses to commute daily, my
         | guess is the sentiment would be that is environmentally-
         | conscious commuting.
         | 
         | Is this meaningfully different from boarding a plane? I can see
         | a luxury vs necessity angle, but is that it? Over long
         | distances planes are more efficient. And like buses, the idea
         | that a single person's behavior will impact departure schedules
         | feels wrong.
        
           | loevborg wrote:
           | You would have to spend 2083 days on a bus to travel 1.5
           | million km.
           | 
           | That would be 63% of his 9 nomad years.
        
           | dabeeeenster wrote:
           | Is this a serious reply? Do people travel 1.5m miles by bus?
           | Think critically.
        
             | liquidise wrote:
             | I think you missed the point of my reply.
             | 
             | Vitalik sitting on non-private flights doesn't meaningfully
             | add to pollution, the flight was already happening. The
             | fuel was already earmarked for burning.
             | 
             | "This person boarded a lot of flights that were going to
             | pollute anyways" is a strange take. Sure he did it a lot,
             | but if an individual contributes no measurable impact by
             | _sitting_ on a plane, then boarding 300+ flights pollutes
             | roughly the same as boarding 0, since those 300+ flights
             | happen anyway.
             | 
             | If you want to argue about market forces, do that. But as a
             | sibling comment said, blaming a consumer here is strange.
        
       | birdyrooster wrote:
       | Check out the Mystery Ranch Terraframe 50L. It's a fantastic pack
       | that lets you access to any part of the bag without worrying the
       | order in which you load items into it.
        
       | wooque wrote:
       | Font is so big I can barely read it
        
         | bowsamic wrote:
         | What computer are you using where 16px sans serif is "so big"?
        
       | kosyblysk666 wrote:
        
       | InefficientRed wrote:
       | This is interesting because I tend to think of packing as a
       | dirtbag thing rather than a nomad thing... when I'm hotel hopping
       | for extended periods I just bring normal luggage. Maybe I should
       | start bringing my backpack instead.
       | 
       | My first impression is that this is a LOT of clothes and the
       | electric stuff is a bit weird.
       | 
       | A few differences between dirtbag and nomad (the latter AFAICT is
       | mostly hotel/airbnb hopping?):
       | 
       | First, you think a lot about food and water. Especially water,
       | and especially sans car. It's VERY heavy and very necessary.
       | 
       | Second, my emergency pack is almost completely different. No
       | vitamin shoppe merch. An ACE bandage, 8 aspirin per day from civ,
       | 1 dose of imodium per day from civ, gauze, anti-bacterial cream,
       | tape, suture kit, and one dose of a more powerful pain killer for
       | serious emergencies if you can get it. No rapid tests (travel
       | usually required a PCR anyways), but a couple KN95s. Cash in both
       | USD (clean, unfolded, new bills) and the local currency. Maps.
       | 
       | Third, weight really matters.
       | 
       | Fourth, cleanliness really matters. You're essentially homeless.
       | Diners and cafes kick out homeless people if you try to stay 9-5.
       | In addition to organizing my life around being clean, I also had
       | a whole separate emergency "Not A Dirtbag For A Day" kit.
       | 
       | I guess the other big difference is that all of my day-to-day
       | stuff fit in roughly 15L so that I could carry 5L water and my
       | gear could consume the other 20L.
        
         | alistairSH wrote:
         | _when I 'm hotel hopping for extended periods I just bring
         | normal luggage. Maybe I should start bringing my backpack
         | instead._
         | 
         | Wife and I use an Osprey Farpoint 40 [1] pack each when we
         | travel. Max size for most overhead bins, comfortable for
         | walking a few miles, and enough pockets to do some basic
         | organizing. Longer trips might end up supplemented with a
         | smaller carry-on bag (usually for my camera kit, or bike
         | helmets and shoes if we're cycling). It's great for travel in
         | Europe, where you often get off a train and the hotel/airbnb is
         | a few blocks away (and hardly worth a cab/Uber).
         | 
         | 1 - https://www.osprey.com/us/en/product/farpoint-travel-pack-
         | ca...
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | I have an Osprey Porter, the 4x liter size--pretty much the
           | same thing--and an old Montainsmith large "fanny pack" but
           | mostly use it over the shoulder (or in the Osprey). For
           | business casual-dress business travel and some lightweight
           | hiking and other recreation, I can straightforwardly go for
           | 3-4 weeks like that. Winter is a bit tougher but can still
           | manage as long as it's not _too_ cold.
           | 
           | Overall, I don't carry as much day to day base layer clothing
           | and just rinse in the sink, don't really have laptop stands,
           | _may_ have a mirrorless camera, have a small kit with repair
           | and other small just in case items. (When I was traveling a
           | lot it was handy to have fairly standard kit bags I could
           | just toss in my luggage.)
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | > I tend to think of packing as a dirtbag thing
         | 
         | You think it's dirty to pack things for a trip?
        
           | pluc wrote:
           | get a suitcase you bum! (/s)
        
           | tkuraku wrote:
           | Pretty sure they are referring to camping outside with a
           | sleeping bag in the dirt -> dirtbag.
        
             | chrisseaton wrote:
             | Still don't get it - only people who sleep outside need to
             | pack for a trip?
        
               | Cerium wrote:
               | "Packing" in this case I infer to mean hauling
               | possessions via a backpack as opposed to a suitcase.
        
               | InefficientRed wrote:
               | "packing" as in "backpacking", not "packing" as in
               | "packing for a trip".
               | 
               | Dirtbagging doesn't necessarily entail living outside.
               | Could bum a room for a while. See
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirtbag_climbing for
               | context.
               | 
               | To clarify: I tend to think of living out of a 40L pack
               | as a dirtbag thing rather than a nomad thing... most of
               | the nomads I know just use hard shell luggage, including
               | me when I hotel hop (I've had nice expensive backpacks
               | destroyed by bag handlers, so hard rollers are better).
               | OP mentions that thy don't have to check their 40L bag;
               | I've always ended up with mine checked but I guess
               | splitting the load into a second personal item could make
               | that less likely.
        
               | dlgeek wrote:
               | Think backpacking, where you're surviving on just what's
               | in your backpack for multiple days at a time.
               | 
               | The focus on "packing" there is on weight/volume
               | minimization - for example backpackers have been known to
               | shave down the handle of their toothbrush to save a few
               | grams. That sort of thing.
        
               | mauvehaus wrote:
               | The reason to cut the toothbrush handle is to reduce its
               | _length_ not its mass. It fits in a much smaller stuff
               | sack when it 's 10cm long than when it's full length.
               | 
               | Since that stuff sack contains other things of
               | approximately that length or shorter (in my case, stuff
               | like: nail clippers, travel sized toothpaste, floss,
               | extra lighter, a pair of corded earplugs, headlamp,
               | possibly a spoon [0]) it gets awkward to have one pokey-
               | outy thing when you're shoving it in amongst the other
               | gear in your pack.
               | 
               | [0] Yeah, yeah, I know: there's earwax on my spoon and
               | toothbrush. That's never felt that important five days
               | removed from a shower :-)
        
           | kemayo wrote:
           | They're referring to "dirtbag" as a lifestyle-movement. It
           | mostly, as I understand it, came out of rock climbing --
           | people who gave up a regular life to go live by rock climbing
           | spots, getting by on seasonal work and few possessions.
           | 
           | It leads to a different aesthetic and priorities than the
           | (coming later) techno-nomad movement. Notably, it doesn't
           | kinda-imply that you also have a good-playing remote job,
           | which changes a lot of the calculations... and the aesthetic
           | leans closer to the kind that gets you kicked out of coffee
           | shops if you linger. It also, of course, is focused on
           | spending a lot of time outdoors and engaging in a fairly
           | dangerous activity.
           | 
           | https://www.desktodirtbag.com/dirtbag-meaning/ or
           | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirtbag
        
       | ruffrey wrote:
       | A trick from us dirtbag ultralight backpackers - weigh everything
       | with a kitchen scale and track in lighterpack.com
        
       | xxxtentacijs wrote:
       | Vitalik flies commercial?
        
       | unnouinceput wrote:
       | Tell me you're under 30 yo without telling me you are under 30
       | yo.
        
         | wing-_-nuts wrote:
         | What does age have to do with anything here, other than older
         | folks probably needing to pack a prescription med or two?
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | I am somewhere in the vicinity of 2x 30 and, while many of my
         | specific packing choices differ, this is conceptually how I
         | pack for most of my travel for multiple weeks at a time when
         | I'm not simply driving from my home. I check luggage only when
         | I have to.
        
       | dukeofdoom wrote:
       | I bought the costco black backpack with swiss logo, like 15 years
       | ago. It was under $40, and probably some of the best money I
       | spent. Took it on numerous trips, hiking, got it wet and filled
       | it to the brim with stuff. It still functions perfectly. No rips
       | or tears. The zippers have a haze on them now, but considering
       | the years of use it's kind of great. It has a laptop compartment.
       | They still sell it. So might be a great option for someone.
        
       | bertil wrote:
       | I'm impressed at how many people coalesce to the same suggestions
       | to save space: simple clothes, layers, etc.
       | 
       | However, I'm surprised at how casually he mentionned how much he
       | has travelled, by flight almost exclusively. I'm assuming from
       | the lack of other plug than Type A, he stayed in America where
       | trains are not a great option -- but still. I'd expect that to
       | come with some comment about carbon footprint.
       | 
       | Am I out of sync with the times?
        
         | dannymi wrote:
         | I don't know about the US, but in the EU, aviation only
         | contributes 3% (that is not a typo. Three percent) of the total
         | greenhouse gas emissions (measured just before corona--so there
         | was a shitload of aviation going on). The major greenhouse gas
         | emitters are electricity production (30% - mostly gas
         | generators!), road transport (20%), industry (20%). Source:
         | European Environment Agency
         | 
         | So I wouldn't worry much about the climate impact of flying.
        
           | uoaei wrote:
           | As a singular factor, cutting down on carbon emissions that
           | are caused via flying is a better leverage point than many
           | other interventions to slowing climate change precisely
           | because the consumption is so high per user. For road
           | transport, industry, and electricity production, those
           | provide benefit for orders of magnitude more people, and
           | individual actors' choices have less impact.
           | 
           | It is probably wiser to judge based on emissions per user.
        
           | Bad_CRC wrote:
           | so that 3% of aviation is part of the 20% of transport or
           | that transport is for cars?
        
             | dannymi wrote:
             | "Transport" is for road transport. Sorry. I edited it now
             | to make it more clear.
             | 
             | https://www.easa.europa.eu/eaer/system/files/usr_uploaded/2
             | 1... section 7.3 for the citation on aviation (gah, is the
             | europa.eu website slow).
        
           | whimsicalism wrote:
           | HN, where marginal thinking comes to die.
        
             | smallpipe wrote:
             | Or even thinking in his case...
        
           | cma wrote:
           | Take the relevant population class of people that can afford
           | to fly frequently, and it is a much larger % of emissions.
        
             | samatman wrote:
             | The climate doesn't care who benefits from emissions, only
             | how much is emitted.
             | 
             | Air travel is much harder to do without fossil fuels than
             | ground transport or electrical generation, and is essential
             | to civilization on the basis of cargo alone. It's simply
             | not an efficient target for change right now.
        
               | b3morales wrote:
               | How much cargo actually goes by air? Last I knew boats
               | (ships) were the vast, vast majority of cargo transport,
               | followed by trains, then trucks, with planes coming a
               | distant last.
        
               | samatman wrote:
               | This says nothing about the importance of the cargo which
               | is transported by plane. Given the much higher expense,
               | we would expect this cargo to be more important, not
               | less.
               | 
               | An extreme example would be organs.
        
               | b3morales wrote:
               | Sure, but I can't agree that our civilization would
               | collapse, or even be at serious risk, if tomorrow
               | airfoils suddenly no longer functioned.
        
               | morsch wrote:
               | Some air travel may be essential to civilization, most of
               | it isn't. We don't really have a way to determine which
               | is which on a societal level. The best we can do is price
               | in the externalities (and deal with income disparity, but
               | that's an orthogonal issue).
        
               | samatman wrote:
               | Air travel itself is essential, it's one of the defining
               | abilities of the modern world and can't just be shut off.
               | It would be corrosive to try and separate the essential
               | from the frivolous, I agree with that.
               | 
               | I favor carbon taxes that dig an industries grave for it:
               | such as taxing coal to build nuclear, wind, solar. That's
               | not feasible with air travel yet, which leaves a
               | consumption tax, those are regressive.
        
               | morsch wrote:
               | You can tax air travel to encourage travel by other means
               | where applicable, or alternatives for work trips, or
               | local tourism, or slow tourism, all kinds of things. Air
               | travel itself may be defining and I don't envision
               | getting rid of it; but the weekend trip to Vegas or
               | Mallorca or Delhi is a defining feature of the present
               | that is not sustainable in the future.
               | 
               | Taxing dirty electricity generation is regressive
               | taxation, too; like I said, it's an original issue. A
               | first step would be to pay out all the generated carbon
               | taxes on a per capita basis.
        
               | toma_caliente wrote:
               | > You can tax air travel to encourage travel by other
               | means where applicable.
               | 
               | This would never happen in America because it would
               | require Americans addressing their views on transit and
               | addressing their pitiful consumer rail or even consumer
               | bus industries.
        
               | uoaei wrote:
               | Inflation and corporate profiteering re: oil prices are
               | having much the same effect anyway.
        
               | toma_caliente wrote:
               | Is it? I see one side blaming Biden and the other side
               | blaming corporations but neither side is saying we need
               | better public transit.
        
           | b3morales wrote:
           | Still, if that's an easier segment than the others to reduce
           | in absolute terms (and without the expenditure just hopping
           | to another column) it shouldn't be off the table.
        
           | Aunche wrote:
           | Aviation contributes to 3% of EU emissions because most
           | Europeans don't take 360 flights in 9 years, whereas they do
           | use electricity, cars/busses, and products of industry.
        
           | morsch wrote:
           | It's a lot more of your personal CO2 budget if you're one of
           | the persons doing the flying. Probably the majority if you're
           | doing intercontinental flights every year.
        
         | unixhero wrote:
         | Nobody cares about carbon footprint bro
        
         | kemayo wrote:
         | Vitalik's one of the founders of Ethereum, so I'd guess that
         | "minimizing carbon footprint" isn't one of his primary goals.
         | 
         | (Yes, yes, proof-of-stake, claimed to finally be launching
         | later this year. That's been "coming soon" for so many years
         | that I'll believe it when it actually happens.)
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin
        
           | paulpauper wrote:
           | "coming soon" for the past 4 years
        
             | kemayo wrote:
             | More like 7, I think? They were laying groundwork in 2015,
             | at least. https://ethereum.org/en/history/#frontier-
             | thawing-summary
        
         | corrral wrote:
         | Minimalism as expressed on the web is mostly a well-off
         | consumerist thing, oddly enough. It's largely about selling
         | nice (or at least "premium-mediocre") stuff to people with
         | money. Natural that it's tied up with expensive travel, too--
         | that's the aspiration hook that gets people who _really_ don 't
         | need the stuff to bust out the ol' credit card.
        
           | mc32 wrote:
           | This reminds me of:
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4755470 which has quite
           | on-point comments roasting D Curtis.
        
           | bowsamic wrote:
           | Vitalik's post seems to be a counterexample against what you
           | claim here
        
           | dubswithus wrote:
           | The products he seems to recommend look like knockoffs and
           | incredibly cheap. But often if something breaks while you are
           | abroad you pay 2-3x the price to replace it. And even then
           | the replacement might be of horrible quality too but you're
           | desperate and suck it up.
           | 
           | Except his Anker brick. I love Anker.
        
         | salicideblock wrote:
         | I had the exact same immediate reaction. If you're out of sync
         | with the times, that makes two of us...
        
         | the_third_wave wrote:
         | > I'd expect that to come with some comment about carbon
         | footprint.
         | 
         | What would you expect him to say? Apologise in some way? Spin a
         | tale of "carbon compensation", the indulgence [1] of this non-
         | theistic religion?
         | 
         | I find it refreshing to hear people speak without constantly
         | genuflecting towards The Current Issue. That does not mean I
         | always (or even usually) agree but I prefer for people to be
         | honest instead of hypocrites when it comes to their 'sins'.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
        
           | whimsicalism wrote:
           | Is it just me or has the disdain/venom in how people discuss
           | the notion that they have moral responsibility to anyone
           | other than themselves increased in recent years?
        
             | jabl wrote:
             | Not just you. Selfish ME ME ME is the current zeitgeist.
             | Heavily sponsored by today's robber barons who are taking
             | the obvious action to deflect attention from their
             | corporate empires towards identity politics.
        
             | the_third_wave wrote:
             | Where is the venom? As to disdain there is a core of truth
             | which is easily explained by the large number of people who
             | - though social media or otherwise - portray their affluent
             | jet-setting life styles with a little bit of green-wash
             | that just does not fit well with the current discourse
             | which centres around the reduction of consumption and
             | energy use. If you choose to fly around the world while
             | simultaneously trying to convey your dedication to the
             | "climate cause" you should expect to be chastised for it.
             | If you just fly around the world without adding indulgences
             | you will still be chastised but at least you're more honest
             | about the fact that you simply care more about your own
             | convenience.
        
         | kspacewalk2 wrote:
         | Maybe I need to get myself a more progressive social circle,
         | but the number of people around me who non-performatively care
         | about their carbon footprint when travelling (and back the
         | concern with actions, not words) is very very low.
        
           | hombre_fatal wrote:
           | I don't think I've ever heard someone mention their carbon
           | footprint ever in real life. Only on an internet message
           | board would someone be surprised that a blog post didn't
           | mention it.
           | 
           | Quite a bubble. But I also think it's very performative which
           | is why it doesn't show up in day to day convo. For example,
           | even the HNer wanted to see a feel-good aside about saving
           | the environment or at least some sort of atonement for their
           | sins.
           | 
           | It's one of those things where we don't have any central
           | entity to blame, so we look for small payoffs by holding
           | random individuals to the flame.
        
         | dj_mc_merlin wrote:
         | The author mentions traveling to multiple continents in his
         | post. Do you expect him to use a train/ferry everywhere? That
         | would be incredibly slow and unfeasible in some situations.
         | OTOH, you can fly everywhere. Not everyone deeply cares about
         | their carbon footprint when by far the largest amount of CO2
         | generated is industrial.
        
           | cranekam wrote:
           | > Not everyone deeply cares about their carbon footprint when
           | by far the largest amount of CO2 generated is industrial.
           | 
           | Industry makes stuff that consumers demand, either directly
           | or indirectly. It's a bit of a meme to suggest that global
           | warming is all down to companies emitting co2 just for lols.
           | Of course, industry is sometime dirty because it's cheaper,
           | but it's putting one's head in the sand to pretend that
           | consumers have no bearing on what companies do.
           | 
           | This is not to say that the blame lays solely with consumers.
           | People are acting rationally -- they want to go on holiday
           | and can afford it; what's stopping them? The issue is one of
           | regulation. If emitting actually had a cost (well, a cost
           | now, to the emitter, rather than to the whole planet at some
           | later date) people would make better decisions.
        
             | dj_mc_merlin wrote:
             | I did not suggest companies emit CO2 for lols -- it is
             | quite obvious they are responding in an optimized way (for
             | them) to consumer demands, since that is what a company is.
             | 
             | But the onus to change is on the companies, and since they
             | won't change themselves, it falls on the government.
             | However, taxing the emitter will lead to companies passing
             | on the cost to the consumer, which, while lowering the
             | emissions, would end up locking away a large number of
             | luxuries (air travel, different kinds of food like meat,
             | etc.) from lower-middle class people. It is very easy to
             | say "increase taxes!" when you have enough disposable
             | income to be able to afford these luxuries anyway. I
             | personally do not want to go back a hundred years where
             | meat is rare luxury and the farthest one travels is to the
             | nearest country, once a decade.
        
         | topranks wrote:
         | This guy is responsible for a relatively significant proportion
         | of the entire planets carbon footprint!
         | 
         | His air travel is the least of our worries.
         | 
         | https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption
        
           | anony23 wrote:
           | Relatively significant as in a fraction of a percent?
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | > I'm impressed at how many people coalesce to the same
         | suggestions to save space: simple clothes, layers, etc.
         | 
         | Buying toiletries locally can mean paying 2-3x the price in
         | your home country. You actually save money by bringing more.
         | For example, in the US the last time I checked I could buy a
         | pack of floss for $0.99. In LATAM it's at least $3. The
         | solution is to bring ~20 packs of floss.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | It's also one more thing to do. If you can trivially bring
           | things with you, you've managed to avoid finding the
           | appropriate store, finding what you're looking for among
           | possibly unfamiliar brands, and potentially very different
           | languages.
        
             | Rebelgecko wrote:
             | At least for me, walking into a grocery store that feels
             | totally alien is part of the fun of traveling. It's a neat
             | way to see some of the more blatant cultural differences,
             | while also accomplishing a task.
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | Yes, but in general I prefer I don't have errands I
               | _need_ to run. Other than picking up wine or whatever :-)
               | I 'm certainly fine with going into stores but I prefer
               | to start out with some base-level stuff even if it adds a
               | few pounds.
        
         | bergenty wrote:
         | I only take long distance trains for fun. Flying is way more
         | convenient at all other times. Show up 45 minutes before the
         | domestic flight and get there at least 5 times faster.
        
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           | alejoar wrote:
           | Maybe in the US. In Europe high speed train tends to be more
           | convenient.
           | 
           | I live in Madrid and I can travel to any major city in the
           | country by train in less than 3 hours. I don't have to show
           | up early. I depart from the city centre. I arrive at the city
           | centre. 500% more convenient and (mostly) cheaper.
        
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         | reidjs wrote:
         | If this is the Vitalik I am assuming he is, he is a bit of a
         | celebrity, so he probably has to fly to conferences, talks, etc
         | often.
        
           | cgeier wrote:
           | "has" in "chooses to"?
        
         | nonameiguess wrote:
         | Given the stuff he's collected, he appears to be traveling all
         | over the world. You can't take a train across oceans. I don't
         | know why Europeans seem to want to derail every discussion of
         | anything into "why can't the world be more like Europe," but
         | have you looked at an equal area map of the whole globe lately?
         | (https://www.esri.com/about/newsroom/wp-
         | content/uploads/2019/...). The overwhelming majority of the
         | world is not Europe. Vitalik is Canadian. All of continental
         | Europe seems to fit roughly east of the Hudson Bay when shoved
         | into Canada. Some other person in this comment string is
         | talking about how easy it is to get around all the major cities
         | in Spain by train. That's great. Spain is 2/3 the size of
         | Texas. Getting around North America isn't nearly the same.
         | Presumably, Vitalik flies more than he uses trains because he
         | has a finite lifespan and wants to devote more of his time
         | living as a nomad to being where he is going rather than in the
         | act of getting there.
         | 
         | As for carbon footprint, I'm not going to comment on the moral
         | quality of his choices, but the dude founded a cryptocurrency.
         | Once you've done that, I don't think much else you can do short
         | of also founding an oil company is going to make your carbon
         | footprint worse than it already is.
        
           | rhn_mk1 wrote:
           | > All of continental Europe seems to fit roughly east of the
           | Hudson Bay when shoved into Canada
           | 
           | Your math does not quite check out.
           | 
           | From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
           | 
           | > Area 10,180,000 km2
           | 
           | From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
           | 
           | > Total land area 9,093,507 km2
        
       | cammikebrown wrote:
       | Ever since I spent a month in Europe with just my North Face
       | Borealis (28 liters) I've never checked a bag again. It's a lot
       | easier to get around without big bulky pieces of luggage.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | I don't need the microphone. How do I optimize the space that is
       | available now?
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | condoms
         | 
         | a whole lot of condoms
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | I don't like those "wall wart" chargers nor the "all in one"
       | international adaptors.
       | 
       | The biggest problem is that the wall warts frequently don't make
       | a strong enough connection to the wall so gravity pulls them out
       | (weight/strain added by the cable etc). Plugging that into a huge
       | adaptor like the massive one recommended by the author simply
       | compounds the problem.
       | 
       | The second problem is that power points are often inconveniently
       | located behind things and/or high on the wall, and not always
       | where you want to be.
       | 
       | So instead I use small standard IEC 60320-C1 (AKA "figure 8")
       | power cable. I carry a US/JP kind and European kind, plus a
       | couple of tiny adaptors. The good thing is if I don't have the
       | right adaptor it's easy to find one of these cables anywhere.
        
         | Pasorrijer wrote:
         | My dream is a simple, one plug extension cable about three feet
         | long with a built in travel adapter.
        
       | splonk wrote:
       | I do a considerable amount of long term travel carrying about
       | half of this, but it all depends on what you're trying to
       | optimize for. My personal design goal is that my bag fits under
       | airline seats, so I never have to worry about gate checking a bag
       | and risking lost luggage. The main tradeoff is that I do a lot of
       | laundry in sinks - you really learn the effectiveness of
       | detergent when you see the color of the water coming off some
       | clothes you thought were pretty clean. These days I'm a bit
       | lazier and try to end up somewhere with a washing machine every
       | week or two to break up the hand washing chore. I've done the
       | towel wringing trick but it's not all that necessary with my
       | clothes unless I'm in a damp environment and am short on time.
       | 
       | The two things that I mostly agree with - eSIM is a massive
       | improvement (I also use Airalo), and I've also tried to
       | standardize on USB-C (except for my headphones, where I haven't
       | found a good replacement). /r/onebag does have some good product
       | recommendations but is somewhat skewed to young backpackers.
       | 
       | I would encourage everyone to ignore anyone telling them they're
       | "doing it wrong" when traveling. You know yourself, make your own
       | decisions. Personally, making an effort to meet digital nomads
       | all around the world sounds like hell on earth to me. Also, it's
       | wasted effort. Trust me, they'll find you and tell you all about
       | themselves.
        
         | jasonwatkinspdx wrote:
         | Yeah, I came to the same conclusion as far as optimizing for
         | two carry on bags.
         | 
         | My setup is really simple but works for me for months at a
         | time. I have a tri fold clothing bag (an old Patagonia burrito,
         | which they sadly don't make anymore) that's for clothes,
         | grooming/hygine, etc, and then a messenger bag that's for
         | laptop, kindle, headphones, emergency rain gear, medications,
         | other similar things.
         | 
         | It may not work for everyone, but I found paring down to
         | essentials was very worth it. I never have to worry about
         | checked bags going wrong. I can wear both bags comfortably
         | while walking for a couple hours, so if I'm moving locations or
         | can't check into my accommodations yet it's no big deal.
         | 
         | One thing I like about this setup is I don't look like I'm
         | hostel hiking. I just look like someone in business casual with
         | an extra overnight bag. It's not fair or just, but sometimes
         | this makes the difference about getting hassled hanging out
         | somewhere with wifi for a couple hours.
         | 
         | The tri fold is roomy enough to pack a suit and plenty of
         | casual clothing. I just hang it up when I get to my room.
         | Unless I'm wearing or using it, items go back to their place in
         | the bag. I never have to unpack, pack, or worry about leaving
         | something behind.
         | 
         | A few simple tricks can make a big difference, but they're
         | probably pretty personal. I pack a lot of extra socks,
         | undershirts, and underwear, all made of thin wool. This helps
         | me stay fresh if I'm a bit long between laundry services. In my
         | electronics bag I carry a short extension cord, some USB plugs
         | and charging cables, etc. That'll make you the hero in every
         | cafe you go to.
         | 
         | In any case, my big takeaway was that I just don't actually
         | need much stuff to be content for months at a time.
        
           | stinkytaco wrote:
           | > In my electronics bag I carry a short extension cord, some
           | USB plugs and charging cables, etc. That'll make you the hero
           | in every cafe you go to.
           | 
           | A small power strip might have been my best travel
           | investment. Good way to meet people if nothing else.
        
         | closewith wrote:
         | > /r/onebag does have some good product recommendations but is
         | somewhat skewed to young backpackers.
         | 
         | /r/onebag is skewed towards solving all your problems by buying
         | something, and seems astroturfed to within an inch of its life.
        
           | jms703 wrote:
           | Can someone explain this expression to me? "astroturfed to
           | within an inch of its life"
        
             | kens wrote:
             | The expression "astroturfed to within an inch of its life"
             | means that most of the reviews are fake recommendations for
             | marketing reasons. Specifically, it's a mixed metaphor,
             | which makes it harder to understand. "Astroturfed"
             | describes a marketing campaign that is disguised as genuine
             | opinions, in the way that AstroTurf is an artificial lawn
             | that is supposed to look real. "Within an inch of his life"
             | is an old expression typically used to describe a thrashing
             | or beating and means "almost to the point of death", but is
             | used metaphorically here to mean "extremely".
        
               | stinkytaco wrote:
               | For readers not at all familiar with American idioms,
               | "astroturfed" is a response to "grassroots". A
               | "grassroots" movement in American slang is one that is
               | bottom up and not driven by advertising, corporations or
               | political parties. Astroturfing gives the appearance of
               | being grassroots when it is not.
        
               | kevinmgranger wrote:
               | Lived all my life in America and never made that
               | connection. Whaddya know!
        
               | kens wrote:
               | I should have known that :-) I was curious, so I looked
               | into this a bit more. Monsanto advertised Astroturf in
               | 1971 with the slogan "The new grass-roots movement. It's
               | away from grass, to Astroturf." In the 1980s, grass-roots
               | vs Astroturf started to be used as a political metaphor
               | by people such as Bob Dole and Lloyd Bentsen, and then
               | became a popular media expression in the 1990s. So
               | ironically, the metaphorical use of "astroturf" was
               | originally driven by advertising.
        
             | mrtesthah wrote:
             | How do you know the individuals offering their ostensible
             | personal experience of a particular product aren't being
             | paid to disingenuously market said product on social media?
        
         | EwanG wrote:
         | Curious what kind of detergent you have found to be most
         | effective for doing laundry in sinks? I'm aware of Woolite, but
         | presume that's not what you're talking about?
        
           | splonk wrote:
           | I just carry whatever powdered detergent is available
           | locally. I've tried the camping strips but I don't really see
           | the point for my use cases. The powdered stuff does seem to
           | set off airport scanners in the US if you have too much of
           | it.
        
           | itbeho wrote:
           | I once had a waiter drop a dish of spaghetti and meatballs in
           | my lap. I was on the road without an appropriate change of
           | clothes. A fellow minimalist traveler gave me his Dawn dish
           | soap and it worked so well that that's all I use now when
           | traveling.
        
         | hyperhopper wrote:
         | > except for my headphones, where I haven't found a good
         | replacement
         | 
         | What issue have you found here? On a weekly basis I use IEMs
         | (Sennheiser IE80) which don't need external power, and Jabra
         | elite active series earbuds which are usb-c. Most options I'm
         | aware of are one of these two categories.
        
           | splonk wrote:
           | My headphone quality requirements are slim to nonexistent
           | since I mostly only use them on planes and trains to listen
           | to music and block out noise, but my form factor requirements
           | are pretty strict. I currently use Anker Soundbud Slims. I
           | like the wired necklace and the magnets on the earpieces that
           | allow the necklace to be sort of completed, although they're
           | very weak. I pull out one earbud pretty often when I need to
           | hear something, so the necklace lets me just drop it instead
           | of having to faff about with storage. I guarantee I would
           | lose individual detached earbuds pretty quickly. I don't use
           | them for videoconferences, so I don't need a microphone. When
           | I did my USB-C unification the closest equivalents tended to
           | have solid plastic necklaces for more structure and mic
           | mounts (looks like one of your recs has this?), but I store
           | my headphones crumpled up in a tiny pocket. This was a year
           | or two ago so maybe there are better options now, but at the
           | moment my headphones just have a permanent adapter attached
           | to them.
        
       | Nergg wrote:
       | Is it some airpod on the microphone picture ("My miscellaneous
       | stuff") ? Wouldn't be my first choice to maximize usbc usage.
        
       | kkleindev wrote:
       | For a reason I haven't been able to distill I really appreciate
       | it when people known for one facet of their personality (here:
       | being a big shot in crypto) have the courage to be open about
       | other, much less impressive facets (here: writing about mundane
       | practicalities) of their lives as well.
        
         | smallpipe wrote:
         | Ah that explains why he seems absolutely insufferable
        
           | bowsamic wrote:
           | If you find Vitalik insufferable, who _do_ you like?
        
       | olalonde wrote:
       | It's funny to read this knowing the author is a billionaire (or
       | maybe a little under with the recent crypto crash). I guess he is
       | HODLin'.
        
         | marginalia_nu wrote:
         | Well he's a hypothetical billionaire. Problem with holding lots
         | of crypto is that you can't really liquidate your crypto
         | without tanking the economy. That's the point of all the crypto
         | grifts going around, to get people to buy into crypto so the
         | whales can exit.
        
           | olalonde wrote:
           | That's not true, the crypto market is very liquid nowadays.
           | Around 22 billion dollar volume for Ethereum in the last 24
           | hours for example and multiple known billion-dollar trades
           | (Tesla, MicroStrategy, etc.). He probably could have
           | liquidated all of his ETH by now if he had wanted to. And
           | definitely enough not to have to live out of a backpack.
        
             | marginalia_nu wrote:
             | How much of that is wash trading?
        
               | olalonde wrote:
               | It's difficult to know for sure but even if we pick a
               | ridiculously high number, like 90%, we're still in the
               | multi-billion dollar daily volume range.
        
       | caymanjim wrote:
       | I've backpack-traveled extensively. I think I'm pretty good at
       | minimizing my gear. My limiting factor is clothes. I'm a big guy,
       | and my clothes and footwear take up easily 3x as much space as
       | the author's. Same for sleeping bags and blankets and even
       | towels. Even if I were less fat, I'd still have above-average
       | gear weight and volume. It usually means that I have to pack
       | fewer changes of clothes. Can be a real pain in the ass, and
       | often the difference between a carry-on and a checked bag.
        
         | rory wrote:
         | As a fellow bigfoot, IMO for long backpacking: first pair of
         | footwear on feet. Second pair gets tied to the outside of the
         | backpack. Third pair gets cut.
        
       | wetpaws wrote:
       | /r/onebag will get a stroke from this
        
       | fleddr wrote:
       | For travel shaving I love the Philips OneBlade products. Light
       | weight, works well enough and for a 3 week stay I don't even need
       | to bring a charger. They can be used to shave any hair, should
       | you need that. The only downside I can think of is that the
       | replacement blades are expensive, but regularly heavily
       | discounted.
        
       | xeornet wrote:
       | I'm 4 months into a 46L bag trip and can see a lot of things I
       | can cut down on. Head home in 2 months to reset and head off
       | again!
        
       | hrdwdmrbl wrote:
       | I use grams instead of cm^3 but otherwise I agree. I just don't
       | want to carry heavy things!
       | 
       | I will recommend 1 specific thing that is rarely mentioned which
       | is soap slices, sometimes known as camping soap. They're super
       | portable, light and small. They are perfect for situations while
       | traveling where you just need a little hand wash. It happens more
       | often than you'd think.
        
       | dabedee wrote:
       | I wonder if the author has ever calculated how much metric tons
       | of CO2 were produced as an externality of his nomadic lifestyle.
        
         | ksdnjweusdnkl21 wrote:
         | Probably a lot less than the blockchains he helped develop and
         | advocated for
        
       | break_the_bank wrote:
       | I got into one bagging a few months ago after looking at Pieter
       | Levels blog post about it https://levels.io/carry-on-world-
       | travel/ and have been operating from one since the 15th of April.
       | 
       | Bought a minaal 3.0 Cary On after going through the r/onebag
       | community. Also bought some more equipment like an anker power
       | core. Have to do a wash cycle weekly. A down jacket hangs off the
       | bag. A laptop, kindle and my phone are the only electronics I
       | have.
       | 
       | Works very well but in Europe you have to pay for carry on on a
       | lot of airlines and otherwise you can only have something that
       | fits under the seat in front of you.
       | 
       | The minimalism makes life easier. Only one pair of shoes & a pair
       | of flip flops. Depend on the hostel / airbnb to provide a towel.
       | Like Vitalik I have a weeks worth of clothes in the bag and one
       | me.
        
         | dubswithus wrote:
         | I hope airlines ban carry on. When we land I would like to get
         | off sometime in the next month or so.
        
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