[HN Gopher] 3D-Printed Homes for Sale in Austin
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       3D-Printed Homes for Sale in Austin
        
       Author : alexvomwald
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2022-07-02 19:11 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | KaiserPro wrote:
       | Much as this is innovative I cant help but notice there isn't any
       | insulation in these homes.
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       | Sure, you have 6inches of concrete, but that just makes it more
       | expensive to build.
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       | From what I can see, its probably cheaper and quicker to pour
       | ICF(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulating_concrete_form). They
       | are basically uber insulative, super quick to build, and support
       | multiple floors in one pour.
       | 
       | The only way I can see the "3d" printed approach being either
       | Eco(cheap) or Eco (earth friendly) is using doing a rammed
       | earth/adobe system. At least then you only really need to dig up
       | earth, power the machine, and boom, you have walls.
        
         | daenz wrote:
         | According to this[0], there is insulation filling the gap
         | between the inside and outside walls.
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         | 0. https://youtu.be/QCWKJvsqjb4?t=549
        
         | bilsbie wrote:
         | Could they have a second print head for expanding foam?
        
           | was_a_dev wrote:
           | Cavity wall insulation would be easier
        
       | DougWebb wrote:
       | Matt Risinger did a few videos about these homes:
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       | https://youtu.be/_MsOXrprYXs
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       | https://youtu.be/QCWKJvsqjb4
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       | https://youtu.be/N47Mhc7QEds
        
       | retrocryptid wrote:
       | so... there's nowhere here where i can buy one of these homes. i
       | think it's more accurate to say "real estate developer wants your
       | email so they can maybe send you info about when 3d printed homes
       | will be printed, but probably also to send you spam."
        
       | aaaaaaaaaaab wrote:
       | Good luck putting furniture against those curved walls.
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       | I don't see how this is any better than prefab concrete panels.
        
       | saos wrote:
       | Interesting. I wonder how long they last. Could be good solution
       | to address supply issues.
        
       | kaycebasques wrote:
       | Sounds like vaporware in the short-term. Are there any shipped
       | 100+ unit 3D-printed communities already out there?
        
         | alexvomwald wrote:
         | This will be the first...
        
       | timbit42 wrote:
       | How environmentally friendly is concrete? I've heard cement is
       | responsible for 5% to 8% of CO2 emissions globally.
        
       | 015UUZn8aEvW wrote:
       | It's probably more accurate to describe this as a new way of
       | pouring concrete than as "3D-printing a house" in full. It's
       | using concrete shot out from a printer head where concrete block
       | or poured concrete might have been used. But most of the
       | materials in the house are the traditional kind and will be
       | installed in the traditional way.
        
         | newaccount2021 wrote:
        
       | woleium wrote:
       | The issue here, along with all 'modern' construction methods (eg
       | sips) is that without 50 or so years of data it's nearly
       | impossible to get home insurance at a reasonable rate, and no
       | insurance means no mortgage.
        
       | allset_ wrote:
       | Do they come with ethernet runs to every room? Those walls will
       | murder RF like WiFi.
        
       | ada1981 wrote:
       | What is total cost on these?
        
         | alexvomwald wrote:
         | They didn't disclose but I am guessing average compared to
         | market. They're not cheap but they seem to be good quality. ps
         | - median price of a home in Austin is $624,000
        
       | alexvomwald wrote:
       | There has been a lot of discussion about 3D-printed homes over
       | the last 3 years with multiple companies getting funding.
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       | One of the biggest home builders in the US announced a 100 home
       | community in Austin and homes are expected to be available for
       | sale soon.
       | 
       | What are your guys thoughts? Do you think a 3D-printed home would
       | be a good investment?
        
         | ceeplusplus wrote:
         | The bottleneck in home building has never been the building of
         | the home itself, but rather the permits and zoning regulations
         | imposed by NIMBY cities.
        
           | iamtheworstdev wrote:
           | at least for now and foreseeable future, there is a
           | bottleneck right of labor.
        
           | wwweston wrote:
           | The problem is more appraisers and banks that don't know what
           | to do with a lot of construction outside some norm, so they
           | won't know how to value and won't know how to write loans.
           | 
           | And under circumstances of any substantial demand for their
           | services, they don't have incentives to change -- they make
           | more spending a predictable amount of time on activity they
           | know how to collect fees for.
           | 
           | You could take all the city zoning/codes/ordinances away
           | _today_ , every last one, and you'd still have this problem
           | (and lose whatever regulatory benefits might come with them).
        
         | daenz wrote:
         | If it slashes housing prices substantially, then yes. People
         | want inexpensive houses. I'm not really into the idea of buying
         | a house, but I would seriously consider buying one of these if
         | they were inexpensive enough.
        
       | scythe wrote:
       | All of the examples I can find using this technology are one-
       | story. That's not promising for addressing housing price problems
       | in large cities. But maybe it could be adapted?
        
       | ransom1538 wrote:
       | Stupid question: Why use Gable roofs? Looks? Gable roofs keep
       | snow off your roof which could cause dangerous load. Why would
       | that be necessary in Austin or FL? Can we please just have 14ft
       | ceilings instead? (I am typing this in FL next to a useless
       | fireplace).
        
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